Rees vs Golson/Hendrix

[tko]

I don't see Crist being a factor. If Kelly is going to make a change he's going to get one of the other youngins involved, or at least he should. I appreciate Dayne's service to this team, but Kelly really has no faith in him despite what he says. You can read body language and see his lack of patience in Dayne, constantly harping on the same issues. We need a QB with running and passing ability. Having a scrambling threat to go with our playmakers w/b sick.

 

[ToledoGoIrish]

I text a buddy today and told him i thought today would be the day we finally see a Hendy/Golson package. *sigh* yet again I was wrong.

 

[jason_h537]

So bench Rees for 1 guy who cant even crack the 2 deep and a true freshman who is undersized and turns it over in practice.

 

[tko]

backups need reps at some point pro.

 

[jason_h537]

backups need reps at some point pro.

Yup and thats at garbage time in the 4th quarter. Golson should RS

 

[koonja]

So bench Rees for 1 guy who cant even crack the 2 deep and a true freshman who is undersized and turns it over in practice.

Or live with 3 TOs per game and settle for 'getting by' against teams at the bottom of the barrel schedule wise, limit ourselves offensively and live with getting smashed by Stanford at the end of the year when we give up 5 TOs?

 

[tko]

i hope garbage time happens at Purdue. they don't have nearly the weapons they usually do. it would help my heart and soul to actually be able to sit and enjoy an ND azz whooping and see some guys get in, maybe even mid 3rd quarter but that's pushing it.

 

[jason_h537]

Or live with 3 TOs per game and settle for 'getting by' against teams at the bottom of the barrel schedule wise, limit ourselves offensively and live with getting smashed by Stanford at the end of the year when we give up 5 TOs?

Yup and Cam McDaniel will earn reps, while Jalen Brown starts next week at CB. Jarret Grace might even be better than Carlo. Maybe a guy is on the bench for a reason

 

[DuffHouse12]

i put Tommy's Career #s up in the "v. Crist" thread. they're not as bad as the haters want them to be.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

And when your freshman comes in and performs as freshman do, where do you go next after you have told #1 and #2 on your depth chart coming into the season that you don't believe in them being able to win on Saturdays. This constant talk about how all these freshman are better than our upper classmen is both annoying and ridiculous. Grass is always greener. Golson will get his time, this year is not it. He's 185 lbs soaking wet.

 

[meowmix]

Nobody hates Rees. This isn't like hating on Denard's awful passing. I and most others are more worried that Tommy may hurt the team down the road. I would like nothing more than for Tommy to throw for 250 and 2 or more TDs every game. But it seems he has a terrible TO every game. Some of his interceptions have been truly awful to watch. Not to mention, he has the same number of interceptions this season that Dayne had through nine games last season.

 

[JadeBrecks]

I say invest in your future. It isn't dayne or tommy. You can get the same production and errors out of a freshman or sophomore. Both dayne and tommy's time has come and gone. Its time to start working on the future of the team.

 

[Riddickulous]

Maybe next year.

 

[GoldenDomer87]

I think Hendrix or Golson could give us the output Rees is (Rees has 9/15 of our TO). I'm not seeing much improvement in Rees. Lets hope that changes.

No, I'm not calling for Rees' job. He is wining games (2-1) and that's all that matters, but I would like to see some of those rookie mistakes go away.

 

[JadeBrecks]

Maybe next year.

Why take a chance losing games next year when they are learning. let them learn now so next year they are really clicking next year. We aren't going interfere with rees this year so invest in next year.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

And when your freshman comes in and performs as freshman do, where do you go next after you have told #1 and #2 on your depth chart coming into the season that you don't believe in them being able to win on Saturdays. This constant talk about how all these freshman are better than our upper classmen is both annoying and ridiculous. Grass is always greener. Golson will get his time, this year is not it. He's 185 lbs soaking wet.

Hendrix is a sophmore, no need to turn to Golson right now. Tommy's performance today was awful plain and simple. He got progressively worse as the day went on and finally led a drive at the end. In that drive however, he missed opportunities (Theo on sideline) that could have and should have led to big gainers. Tommy needs to improve quickly and Hendrix needs to be ready. We are going to get crushed by 2-3 teams on the remainng schedule if that is the level of play we get at QB. Tommy up until now has been credited w having good accuracy. That was not at all the case today. He was inaccurate, locked onto 1 receiver. A recipe for disaster.

 

[enrico514]

Tommy is a the best option for now but as soon as we have a game control BK should put Hendrix in (no need for Golson this year). It seems to me that our offence will not be very effective until we get a mobile QB in there. The frustrating thing is that Tommy is looking awe full in there. Yes he had a good last drive but he did also miss too many opportunities today.

 

[BeatSC]

Or live with 3 TOs per game and settle for 'getting by' against teams at the bottom of the barrel schedule wise, limit ourselves offensively and live with getting smashed by Stanford at the end of the year when we give up 5 TOs?

Can't agee more. Can you imagine that with the mobility and arm strength of either Golston or Hendrix and their aility to ectned plays what it will do to the LB's and CB's? Tey will need to guard against a running QB which Tommy will almost never take off and if he does he will never gain more than 10 yards. Maybe it is not a good indication of how good these kids are but after watchng the Blue Gold game where Golston and Hendrix were fiar game they noth looked alot better than Dayne or Tommy and zipped te ball around and moved around in the pocket. This team is being held back by Brian Kelly.There I said it! The lack of imagination in his play calling (maybe Tommy can't run half of the offense) and hanging in there with Tommy where we would still be no worse than 2-2 with any of the QB's right now. The weapons are not getting the ball!

 

[montanaquade]

Tommy Turnover

Tommy Turnover

Tommy is a the best option for now but as soon as we have a game control BK should put Hendrix in (no need for Golson this year). It seems to me that our offence will not be very effective until we get a mobile QB in there. The frustrating thing is that Tommy is looking awe full in there. Yes he had a good last drive but he did also miss too many opportunities today.

I totally disagree with Tommy turnover being the Best option for now.
It is directly his fault that Notre Dame has the 2 losses so far and also the reason why we are playing like a bunch of lost losers.
The entire offense is losing confidence in him rapidly.
The season is just about lost so why not put Dayne Crist back in or at least give Andrew Hendrix a try.
Neither of them can do any worse than Tommy turnover already is doing.
Mark my words if he stays then Notre Dame is headed for a huge freefall and the recruits that are watching will be very aware of how bad we are.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Alright, for real, please take Golston OFF the thread title. He IS NOT getting in unless the other three have season ending injuries. So just stop.

 

[EddytoNow]

Tommy is adequate at best. Nine turnovers in three starts would have any other quarterback in the country sitting on the bench. His touchdown to interception ratio is never going to be sufficient to make us a BCS caliber team. Fortunately, the defense has carried him for the two victories. Otherwise, the team would be sitting at 0-4 right now. With Tommy taking snaps, we are a 7-5 or 6-6 team at best. He makes too many mistakes for us to win consistently. When Clausen struggled a large part of the problem could be attributed to the sorry play of his offensive line and the lack of a running game. Tommy has no such excuse.

 

[BeatSC]

I totally disagree with Tommy turnover being the Best option for now.
It is directly his fault that Notre Dame has the 2 losses so far and also the reason why we are playing like a bunch of lost losers.
The entire offense is losing confidence in him rapidly.
The season is just about lost so why not put Dayne Crist back in or at least give Andrew Hendrix a try.
Neither of them can do any worse than Tommy turnover already is doing.
Mark my words if he stays then Notre Dame is headed for a huge freefall and the recruits that are watching will be very aware of how bad we are.

I don't normally like to bag on one of the kids but the title is fitting. I am tire of hearing he is 6-1. He has played in 10 games and is at least 6-3. In all these games the ND def (with the excpetion of the 4th qtr meltdown aginst UM) has been the main reason for the W.

I accept the Tommy turnover label until he avoids a TO in a game where he also passes for 2 TD's. I also think that Tommy has already far exceeded his own and anybody's expectations for his career at ND. Considering the caliber of the current stable of QB's and the talent around him he shoudn't be anywhere closer tan a second string QB at best. He is the equivalent of Jon Goodman for returning punts or as a WR.

 

[montanaquade]

I don't normally like to bag on one of the kids but the title is fitting. I am tire of hearing he is 6-1. He has played in 10 games and is at least 6-3. In all these games the ND def (with the excpetion of the 4th qtr meltdown aginst UM) has been the main reason for the W.

I accept the Tommy turnover label until he avoids a TO in a game where he also passes for 2 TD's. I also think that Tommy has already far exceeded his own and anybody's expectations for his career at ND. Considering the caliber of the current stable of QB's and the talent around him he shoudn't be anywhere closer tan a second string QB at best. He is the equivalent of Jon Goodman for returning punts or as a WR.

Amen i agree with that 100%.
This team can still be good but not with Tommy turnover at the helm.
It is time to end the drama and move on to another QB.

 

[kmoose]

I haven't seen the game yet, as I just got home from work. I probably won't see the game until after work, tomorrow. But, going strictly off of the numbers. This is the first week I am not shocked that people are calling for benching Rees. But his numbers weren't bad. How about we get a better running game going? Again, without having seen the game: take away Gray's 79 yarder, and ND rushed 31 times for 112 yards. That's not good.

 

[jason_h537]

Why take a chance losing games next year when they are learning. let them learn now so next year they are really clicking next year. We aren't going interfere with rees this year so invest in next year.

So at 2-2 with 8 games on the schedule and a likely bowl game you are saying the team should give up on this year because it is over.

 

[tko]

I haven't seen the game yet, as I just got home from work. I probably won't see the game until after work, tomorrow. But, going strictly off of the numbers. This is the first week I am not shocked that people are calling for benching Rees. But his numbers weren't bad. How about we get a better running game going? Again, without having seen the game: take away Gray's 79 yarder, and ND rushed 31 times for 112 yards. That's not good.

i suggest you take your heart meds prior to watching.

 

[pkt77242]

I totally disagree with Tommy turnover being the Best option for now.
It is directly his fault that Notre Dame has the 2 losses so far and also the reason why we are playing like a bunch of lost losers.The entire offense is losing confidence in him rapidly.
The season is just about lost so why not put Dayne Crist back in or at least give Andrew Hendrix a try.
Neither of them can do any worse than Tommy turnover already is doing.Mark my words if he stays then Notre Dame is headed for a huge freefall and the recruits that are watching will be very aware of how bad we are.

You are soooooooo right he lost the USF game for us

Come on now get a clue.

To the 2nd bolded part obviously they can't even perform better than Rees in practice what makes you think they will do better in a game situation?

 

[Me2SouthBend]

I haven't seen the game yet, as I just got home from work. I probably won't see the game until after work, tomorrow. But, going strictly off of the numbers. This is the first week I am not shocked that people are calling for benching Rees. But his numbers weren't bad. How about we get a better running game going? Again, without having seen the game: take away Gray's 79 yarder, and ND rushed 31 times for 112 yards. That's not good.

Easier said than done when the othe team stacks the box because they have no fear of ND going deep. You'll understand when you see his play.

 

[kmoose]

i suggest you take your heart meds prior to watching.

My heart meds = whiskey!!

 

[pkt77242]

I don't normally like to bag on one of the kids but the title is fitting. I am tire of hearing he is 6-1. He has played in 10 games and is at least 6-3. In all these games the ND def (with the excpetion of the 4th qtr meltdown aginst UM) has been the main reason for the W.

I accept the Tommy turnover label until he avoids a TO in a game where he also passes for 2 TD's. I also think that Tommy has already far exceeded his own and anybody's expectations for his career at ND. Considering the caliber of the current stable of QB's and the talent around him he shoudn't be anywhere closer tan a second string QB at best. He is the equivalent of Jon Goodman for returning punts or as a WR.

So you are giving him Credit for the loss to Tulsa last year and USF this year? I would understand the Tulsa game if he wasn't a true freshmen in his first extended play time when he didn't even get to prepare for the game with the first team. As for USF, um he is the reason we almost came back and won that game?