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Thanks for the post Jiggs. If Sapp is right I agree this will be the No 1 class. McCoy still bothers me. Not to bring up a sour subject but he doesn't mention Kates! Does he think that one is lost?
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McCoy could start at Notre Dame next year. SC is extremely deep at DT.
He'll make the right choice.
He'll make the right choice.
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I thought Oklahoma was more of a threat to land McCoy than USC?
I really want to land this guy, Icing on the cake
I really want to land this guy, Icing on the cake
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Who is all playing in the Amry All-American game that is going or looking at Notre Dame?
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LuckoftheIrish86 said:
Rivals, Scout, BGI, Tom Lemming....everyone is saying it is ND and SC for McCoy.
It's going to be close. Weis went to see him practice LIVE during the second off week. That says a lot about how badly they want him.
Reuland, Carufel, Young, Smith and Micah Johnson all appear to be strong leans. Put McCoy in there and you've got one hell of a class.
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You'd think McCoy would love the opportunity for early playing time. Espcially with USC loaded at DT like you've said.
"Reuland, Carufel, Young, Smith and Micah Johnson all appear to be strong leans. Put McCoy in there and you've got one hell of a class.
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No kidding! Thats an Amazing class! so balanced in terms of positions. Top 3 Class guaranteed
"Reuland, Carufel, Young, Smith and Micah Johnson all appear to be strong leans. Put McCoy in there and you've got one hell of a class.
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No kidding! Thats an Amazing class! so balanced in terms of positions. Top 3 Class guaranteed
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If we get these guys Weis will have filled the need at every position. We will not match Texas in the "stars" category but in "positions" we are NO 1. How would you like to be recruiting AGAINST Weis? He's got them all nervous.LuckoftheIrish86 said:
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Notre Dame might have more recruiting flexibility than you think.
The popular theory states that this Irish class will max out at 27 prospects with James Aldridge and Chris Stewart counted against last year’s limit. But one source indicated that the Irish might take four early enrollment prospects this year, adding George West and Konrad Reuland to the January mix. That would require a lot of last minute work by Notre Dame, never mind a public verbal commitment from Reuland, but it would give the Irish recruiting flexibility to spare.
If this recruiting class swells to 29 prospects that means Notre Dame could hypothetically take two quarterbacks, three running backs, four wide receivers, two tight ends, six offensive linemen, two defensive ends, two defensive tackles, two linebackers, two cornerbacks, three safeties and one kicker. The Irish already have 22 public verbal commitments and hold strong leads for Matt Carufel and Reuland, which would bump that figure to 24.
If West and Reuland opt for early enrollment, and that’s far from a certainty, it would let the Irish add extra depth to this class and three key positions: defensive tackle, middle linebacker and on the offensive line. It might even keep Notre Dame in the running for wide receiver Terrence Austin, who’s maintained at least some interest in the Irish and wants to make a decision at the U.S Army All-American Bowl on Jan. 7.
The benefits of an additional two early enrollments could help next year’s recruiting class too if Notre Dame doesn’t max out this class at 29. For example, if the Irish sign just 27 players but four count against last year’s limit, that means Notre Dame can count just 23 players against the 2006 scholarship limit, leaving two openings. That means next year the Irish could sign 27 prospects if two opt for early enrollment because Notre Dame could count them against this current class.
Hopefully that didn’t require a calculator.
Trendy recruits, and we’re not talking fashions.
The best Notre Dame recruiting classes aren’t comprised solely of prospects already leaning toward South Bend when the process starts. For the Irish to truly build one of the country’s top recruiting hauls, it needs to include several players that probably wouldn’t give Notre Dame a second thought if the Irish were playing Insight Bowl quality football.
For every prospect like a John Ryan, Robby Parris, Munir Prince and Paddy Mullen, i.e. top talent from Catholic high schools, Notre Dame needs to pull in somebody like Demetrius Jones, Richard Jackson, Micah Johnson or Gerald McCoy. Notre Dame has prestige and academics to sell en masse, but it needs to sell winning and NFL training too. This year it’s pitching it all.
Notre Dame beat out Miami for Jackson, who more than once called the Hurricanes his dream school. When Notre Dame beats one of the “Big Three” in Florida for a prospect inclined to stay home, that’s a potential trend. When Notre Dame can go to Fort Campbell, Ky., and pluck an athlete like Johnson that’s usually a lock to stay in the SEC, that could be a trend too. The same would go for pulling a five-star defensive tackle out of Oklahoma.
Too often Irish fans get caught up in the program’s mythology, claiming that if kids don’t want Notre Dame from the start, then the program should move on to kids that “bleed blue and gold.” That kind of backward thinking leads to subpar classes and inadvertently lets coaches off the hook for poor recruiting. Notre Dame needs to be sold to all prospects, but especially those without a natural connection to the program from the start like Jones, Jackson, Johnson and McCoy. Weis is even staying after five-star receiver Percy Harvin, even though the Virginia Beach, Va., star says he’s not interested. Why take no for an answer when a long shot yes might give you the nation’s No. 1 player?
Weis understands the fact that Notre Dame doesn’t sell itself and that’s a major reason why this recruiting class will finish among the nation’s best. Now that’s a trend Notre Dame fans can get behind.
The way LaSalle coach Tom Grippa sees it, the best thing that ever happened to defensive end Ben Martin might have been an ankle sprain.
Honing his hoops game last summer, the standout junior football prospect from Cincinnati, Ohio, turned an ankle severely enough that it cut short his hardwood workouts and left him time to focus on football for the first time during an off-season. That meant hitting the weights and packing 15 pounds of muscle onto Martin’s 6-foot-5 frame. Now, after a junior season that ended with 71 tackles and 10 sacks, Martin is seeing the dividends of that hard work.
One of the Rivals.com 100 juniors to watch for 2007, Martin already holds scholarship offers from Notre Dame, Ohio State, Illinois and Cincinnati. The Bearcats unofficially offered Martin after his sophomore season. Not bad for a player that thought his college career would include a minor in basketball, not football.
“He can do every dunk in the book,” Grippa said. “One of the best things that happened to him was during one of the first weeks of open gym in the summer, he sprained his ankle. He had to take a month off and he lifted hard on his upper body and went from 205 to 220.”
Grippa said Martin could fill out to 270 pounds and maintain his speed. While Grippa has never timed his standout defensive end in the 40-yard dash, he figured Martin would post a time just over the 4.5 mark.
“He’s so fast, that’s what makes him special,” Grippa said. “He’s just learning how to play. He’s got a great work ethic and didn’t start playing until his freshman year.”
Martin visited Notre Dame for the Southern California game on Oct. 15 and entertained the thought of taking another in-season visit to South Bend, but his next trip to check out the Irish won’t come until a junior day this off-season.
As is the case with most top Ohio prospects, overcoming the in-state Buckeyes will take some work. Fortunately for the Irish, they have a couple allies on the LaSalle staff. LaSalle’s offensive line coach, Tom Doerger, started at offensive tackle for the Irish in 1984-85, teaming with current Irish offensive coordinator Mike Haywood. LaSalle team physician Bob Burger started at left guard for Notre Dame in 1980.
Having a verbal commitment in the senior class from Cincinnati shouldn’t hurt either, never mind the fact that it’s another defensive end in Kallen Wade. Wade said he hung out with Martin during the USC weekend and the two talked about their future place on the Irish depth chart.
That’s a reality still years in the distance, but one Notre Dame is already working toward.
When I spoke with Notre Dame’s associate provost and director of admissions
Dan Saracino earlier this spring about the prospect of early enrollment, he framed the discussion outside of the football program. While it’s clear Notre Dame’s most profitable sport cracked the door for January enrollment, the impact of this policy shift will affect more than the Irish depth chart.
Early enrollment will create a handful of new challenges for the University in terms of scheduling and assimilation into Notre Dame’s first year of studies. It will also create a unique set of circumstances for the players going through the process. Players like James Aldridge and Chris Stewart will be forced to either play catch-up with the rest of Notre Dame’s freshman class or operate outside the mainstream in their own small peer group. Either way, the early enrollment has the potential to take the usual homesickness to a new level.
That’s why the early enrollment option shouldn’t be open to just any player that wants to jumpstart his college career. It will take more than good grades and standout ability for players like Aldridge and Stewart to make the awkward transition to college at a place like Notre Dame. Correctly, Saracino was emphatic about the potential candidates for early enrollment showing the necessary maturity in interviews before getting the January nod.
But even with grades, ability and maturity on the side of Aldridge and Stewart, the spring semester figures to include at least a few difficult moments.
“It’s going to be a tough time and very different for him,” said Stan Labay, Stewart’s coach at Klein High School. “He’s going to nee some support and mentoring from the coaches. I think he’ll handle it all because he does have that conviction.”
Early enrollment should never reach the rubber stamp status of fifth-year eligibility at Notre Dame. Fortunately for all parties involved, including the Irish football program, it doesn’t look like it will.
OK, it’s prediction time. It’s the most popular thread on the board, so we’ll take our stab and forecasting the final additions in Notre Dame’s 2006 recruiting class. Based on what we’re hearing, seeing and thinking, these players will make up the final recruits in the Irish class.
But be warned, like gambling tips these predictions are for entertainment purposes only. We’ll update this list each week.
Matt Carufel
Micah Johnson
Butch Lewis
Toryan Smith
Konrad Reuland
Sam Young
The popular theory states that this Irish class will max out at 27 prospects with James Aldridge and Chris Stewart counted against last year’s limit. But one source indicated that the Irish might take four early enrollment prospects this year, adding George West and Konrad Reuland to the January mix. That would require a lot of last minute work by Notre Dame, never mind a public verbal commitment from Reuland, but it would give the Irish recruiting flexibility to spare.
If this recruiting class swells to 29 prospects that means Notre Dame could hypothetically take two quarterbacks, three running backs, four wide receivers, two tight ends, six offensive linemen, two defensive ends, two defensive tackles, two linebackers, two cornerbacks, three safeties and one kicker. The Irish already have 22 public verbal commitments and hold strong leads for Matt Carufel and Reuland, which would bump that figure to 24.
If West and Reuland opt for early enrollment, and that’s far from a certainty, it would let the Irish add extra depth to this class and three key positions: defensive tackle, middle linebacker and on the offensive line. It might even keep Notre Dame in the running for wide receiver Terrence Austin, who’s maintained at least some interest in the Irish and wants to make a decision at the U.S Army All-American Bowl on Jan. 7.
The benefits of an additional two early enrollments could help next year’s recruiting class too if Notre Dame doesn’t max out this class at 29. For example, if the Irish sign just 27 players but four count against last year’s limit, that means Notre Dame can count just 23 players against the 2006 scholarship limit, leaving two openings. That means next year the Irish could sign 27 prospects if two opt for early enrollment because Notre Dame could count them against this current class.
Hopefully that didn’t require a calculator.
Trendy recruits, and we’re not talking fashions.
The best Notre Dame recruiting classes aren’t comprised solely of prospects already leaning toward South Bend when the process starts. For the Irish to truly build one of the country’s top recruiting hauls, it needs to include several players that probably wouldn’t give Notre Dame a second thought if the Irish were playing Insight Bowl quality football.
For every prospect like a John Ryan, Robby Parris, Munir Prince and Paddy Mullen, i.e. top talent from Catholic high schools, Notre Dame needs to pull in somebody like Demetrius Jones, Richard Jackson, Micah Johnson or Gerald McCoy. Notre Dame has prestige and academics to sell en masse, but it needs to sell winning and NFL training too. This year it’s pitching it all.
Notre Dame beat out Miami for Jackson, who more than once called the Hurricanes his dream school. When Notre Dame beats one of the “Big Three” in Florida for a prospect inclined to stay home, that’s a potential trend. When Notre Dame can go to Fort Campbell, Ky., and pluck an athlete like Johnson that’s usually a lock to stay in the SEC, that could be a trend too. The same would go for pulling a five-star defensive tackle out of Oklahoma.
Too often Irish fans get caught up in the program’s mythology, claiming that if kids don’t want Notre Dame from the start, then the program should move on to kids that “bleed blue and gold.” That kind of backward thinking leads to subpar classes and inadvertently lets coaches off the hook for poor recruiting. Notre Dame needs to be sold to all prospects, but especially those without a natural connection to the program from the start like Jones, Jackson, Johnson and McCoy. Weis is even staying after five-star receiver Percy Harvin, even though the Virginia Beach, Va., star says he’s not interested. Why take no for an answer when a long shot yes might give you the nation’s No. 1 player?
Weis understands the fact that Notre Dame doesn’t sell itself and that’s a major reason why this recruiting class will finish among the nation’s best. Now that’s a trend Notre Dame fans can get behind.
The way LaSalle coach Tom Grippa sees it, the best thing that ever happened to defensive end Ben Martin might have been an ankle sprain.
Honing his hoops game last summer, the standout junior football prospect from Cincinnati, Ohio, turned an ankle severely enough that it cut short his hardwood workouts and left him time to focus on football for the first time during an off-season. That meant hitting the weights and packing 15 pounds of muscle onto Martin’s 6-foot-5 frame. Now, after a junior season that ended with 71 tackles and 10 sacks, Martin is seeing the dividends of that hard work.
One of the Rivals.com 100 juniors to watch for 2007, Martin already holds scholarship offers from Notre Dame, Ohio State, Illinois and Cincinnati. The Bearcats unofficially offered Martin after his sophomore season. Not bad for a player that thought his college career would include a minor in basketball, not football.
“He can do every dunk in the book,” Grippa said. “One of the best things that happened to him was during one of the first weeks of open gym in the summer, he sprained his ankle. He had to take a month off and he lifted hard on his upper body and went from 205 to 220.”
Grippa said Martin could fill out to 270 pounds and maintain his speed. While Grippa has never timed his standout defensive end in the 40-yard dash, he figured Martin would post a time just over the 4.5 mark.
“He’s so fast, that’s what makes him special,” Grippa said. “He’s just learning how to play. He’s got a great work ethic and didn’t start playing until his freshman year.”
Martin visited Notre Dame for the Southern California game on Oct. 15 and entertained the thought of taking another in-season visit to South Bend, but his next trip to check out the Irish won’t come until a junior day this off-season.
As is the case with most top Ohio prospects, overcoming the in-state Buckeyes will take some work. Fortunately for the Irish, they have a couple allies on the LaSalle staff. LaSalle’s offensive line coach, Tom Doerger, started at offensive tackle for the Irish in 1984-85, teaming with current Irish offensive coordinator Mike Haywood. LaSalle team physician Bob Burger started at left guard for Notre Dame in 1980.
Having a verbal commitment in the senior class from Cincinnati shouldn’t hurt either, never mind the fact that it’s another defensive end in Kallen Wade. Wade said he hung out with Martin during the USC weekend and the two talked about their future place on the Irish depth chart.
That’s a reality still years in the distance, but one Notre Dame is already working toward.
When I spoke with Notre Dame’s associate provost and director of admissions
Dan Saracino earlier this spring about the prospect of early enrollment, he framed the discussion outside of the football program. While it’s clear Notre Dame’s most profitable sport cracked the door for January enrollment, the impact of this policy shift will affect more than the Irish depth chart.
Early enrollment will create a handful of new challenges for the University in terms of scheduling and assimilation into Notre Dame’s first year of studies. It will also create a unique set of circumstances for the players going through the process. Players like James Aldridge and Chris Stewart will be forced to either play catch-up with the rest of Notre Dame’s freshman class or operate outside the mainstream in their own small peer group. Either way, the early enrollment has the potential to take the usual homesickness to a new level.
That’s why the early enrollment option shouldn’t be open to just any player that wants to jumpstart his college career. It will take more than good grades and standout ability for players like Aldridge and Stewart to make the awkward transition to college at a place like Notre Dame. Correctly, Saracino was emphatic about the potential candidates for early enrollment showing the necessary maturity in interviews before getting the January nod.
But even with grades, ability and maturity on the side of Aldridge and Stewart, the spring semester figures to include at least a few difficult moments.
“It’s going to be a tough time and very different for him,” said Stan Labay, Stewart’s coach at Klein High School. “He’s going to nee some support and mentoring from the coaches. I think he’ll handle it all because he does have that conviction.”
Early enrollment should never reach the rubber stamp status of fifth-year eligibility at Notre Dame. Fortunately for all parties involved, including the Irish football program, it doesn’t look like it will.
OK, it’s prediction time. It’s the most popular thread on the board, so we’ll take our stab and forecasting the final additions in Notre Dame’s 2006 recruiting class. Based on what we’re hearing, seeing and thinking, these players will make up the final recruits in the Irish class.
But be warned, like gambling tips these predictions are for entertainment purposes only. We’ll update this list each week.
Matt Carufel
Micah Johnson
Butch Lewis
Toryan Smith
Konrad Reuland
Sam Young
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....If this recruiting class swells to 29 prospects that means Notre Dame could hypothetically take two quarterbacks, three running backs, four wide receivers, two tight ends, six offensive linemen, two defensive ends, two defensive tackles, two linebackers, two cornerbacks, three safeties and one kicker. The Irish already have 22 public verbal commitments and hold strong leads for Matt Carufel and Reuland, which would bump that figure to 24....
AND A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP IN A PEAR TREE!!!!!
Seriously, great post!
AND A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP IN A PEAR TREE!!!!!
Seriously, great post!
iloveirish_12 said:
There are 7 announced ND verbals on the roster:
Aldridge, Frazer, Gallup, Jones, McNeil, Walls, Webb
There are another 7 still active with 2 rumored or more rumored to be ND silent verbals announcing at the game:
Austin, Carufel, M. Johnson, McCoy, Reuland, Wenger, Young
There are at least another 10 that were in play earlier in recruiting.
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Thanks BGIF. I know they had some but i didn't know how many. This is a lot better than having one from last year.
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Judging from Toryan Smith's feedback, he enjoyed scUM quite a bit. Micah Johnson says UK is in the lead for him.
They will need another LB in this class. Anthony Lewis isn't talking. It might be too late for ND to get into the mix with Tongo (Naperville IL) or Green (North Chicago). With an offer, Tongo would probably verbal.
They will need another LB in this class. Anthony Lewis isn't talking. It might be too late for ND to get into the mix with Tongo (Naperville IL) or Green (North Chicago). With an offer, Tongo would probably verbal.