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irishgo8

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I heard this rumor....Ron Turner will be QBs coach in 05 for ND.

QB coach at Chicago Bears
Head Coach Illini 97-04
Trained quarterback Kurt Kitner
Jon Beutjer
 

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Kittner swears by Turner. Kittner thrived under him and had success with Illinois. This could be a good move, with Weis and possibly Cutcliffe, along with Turner bringing Quinn along for his last two years....IMAGINE!!! Hopefully there is some validity to this one. Turner's last two recruiting classes at Illinois haven't had a chance to manifest themselves as of yet. We'll see how they do on the field. A former head coach with recruiting ties can't hurt.
 

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brucejcarr said:
Is Cutliff still coming to ND?
It wouldn't appear that way if Ron Turner is the QB coach. Man, I'd rather have Cutcliffe!
 

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Svoboda said:
It wouldn't appear that way if Ron Turner is the QB coach. Man, I'd rather have Cutcliffe!

Turner is just as good as Cutcliffe i think
 

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irishgo8 said:
Turner is just as good as Cutcliffe i think
Not even close in my book. I've seen the collective body of work he's done and it doesn't stack up to the Manning boys and other guys Cutcliffe has had under his tutiledge.

Have you watched the Bear QB play at all since Turner has been there? Brutal, poor decision making, its like they aren't even prepared for who they're playing.
 

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Svoboda said:
Not even close in my book. I've seen the collective body of work he's done and it doesn't stack up to the Manning boys and other guys Cutcliffe has had under his tutiledge.

Have you watched the Bear QB play at all since Turner has been there? Brutal, poor decision making, its like they aren't even prepared for who they're playing.

Yes but LOTS of former QBs say he is the best for devoloping QBs - thats y i am exicited.
 
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irishgo8 said:
I heard this rumor....Ron Turner will be QBs coach in 05 for ND.

It would be nice to name a source, since this contradicts everything everybody else is saying. I believe Spurrier's quotes were fairly explicit in claiming Latina as a package deal with Cutcliffe.
 

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Svoboda said:
Like who?
Ok i think i found some info......
From the Illini Website
During his tenure, the Illinois offense has posted the best total yards numbers in consecutive years (2001 and 2002), recorded more points than any other Illini team on two occasions (1999 and 2001) and passed for over 3,000 yards twice (2001 and 2002). Looking at the all-time rushers in school history and you will find three of the Top-5 from the Turner era. Just two years ago, the Illini bid farewell to the greatest receiving corp the program has seen with four players making NFL rosters in 2003
The 2002 offense set a new school mark for total offense, averaging 446.3 yards per game, which also ranked ninth nationally. Turner's high-powered offenses now rank in three of the school's top-5 spots. Quarterback Jon Beutjer led the conference in passing and the team held the top spot as well for the second straight year. Illinois fans saw the compilation of probably the greatest wide receiving corp in school history as Brandon Lloyd, Walter Young, Aaron Moorehead and Greg Lewis accounted for 57 touchdowns and over 7,700 receiving yards their four years. At least three of the four rank on every career receiving record list and all four are on NFL rosters.

Not to leave out the rushing game, the Turner era has produced three of the best running backs in school history. In 2002, Antoineo Harris capped his career with a 178-yard performance to break the single-season record. He also moved to second on the career list, behind only Robert Holcombe who set the career mark in 1997. A 2001 graduate, Rocky Harvey ranks fifth on that list.

Considered one of the game's great offensive minds, in 2001 Turner once again led his Illini to the highest scoring offense in school history, scoring 390 points for an average of 32.5 points per contestant. In 1999, Illinois scored 388 to break the previous scoring record set in 1902.

Turner is also known for his development of quarterbacks and his most recent protege, Kurt Kittner benefited from his tutoring. Kittner was a Johnny Unitas Award finalist and a Davey O'Brien Award semifinalist. He became only the sixth Illinois quarterback to pass for over 3,000 yards in a season and with the win over Northwestern in 2001, he became the winningest quarterback in school history (24-15). He set the school record for touchdown passes in a career with 70 and broke his own single-season record of 24 set in 1999 with 27 in 2001.

Kittner also became one in a long line of successful Turner-coached quarterbacks to head to the NFL. Others on that prestigious list are: current San Francisco 49er starter Jeff Garcia, Erik Kramer, Jim Harbaugh, Steve Stenstrom, Sean Salisbury, Rodney Peete, Bucky Richardson, Sandy Schwab, John Congemi and Dave Kreig.

Currently 21 Illinois players from the Turner era are on NFL rosters. LB Danny Clark, FB Jameel Cook, TE Matt Cushing, OL Dave Diehl, RB Antoineo Harris, LS Nathan Hodel, RB Robert Holcombe, S Bobby Jackson, QB Kurt Kittner, WR Greg Lewis, WR Brandon Lloyd, OL J.P. Machado, OL Brandon Moore, WR Aaron Moorehead, OL Tony Pashos, PK Neil Rackers, OL Marques Sullivan, DE Fred Wakefield, CB Eugene Wilson, LB Michael Young and WR Walter Young.

Turner has also been tabbed as one of the best coaches for turning under-recruited players into All-Big Ten selections (by Lindy's in 2001). In his five seasons, Turner has boasted 49 All-Big Ten selections (first, second-team and honorable mention), including first-teamers DE Fred Wakefield in 2000, CB Eugene Wilson, OL Tony Pashos and OL Jay Kulaga in 2001 and Pashos again in 2002. Turner had a record number of all-conference picks after the championship in 2001 with 13.

With wins at Michigan and Ohio State in 1999, Turner led the first team since 1952 (Michigan St.) to wins at "The Big House" and "The Horseshoe" in the same season.

A BIG ONE for ND
The academic standards also have been raised by Turner. Prior to the 1997 season, the cumulative team GPA for the Illini was a 2.19 which has since improved to a 2.67.

I am sorry - but since the Illini have fired Turner then i dont have access to the page that has the qb coach quotes.....I am trying to google them
 

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I'm aware of the Illini quarterbacks he has been over, but who has had long term success and went on to the NFL and played? Turner is a guy who I see developing guys into Arena League QBs whereas Cutcliffe is a guy who develops pro style quarterbacks.
 

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Svoboda said:
I'm aware of the Illini quarterbacks he has been over, but who has had long term success and went on to the NFL and played? Turner is a guy who I see developing guys into Arena League QBs whereas Cutcliffe is a guy who develops pro style quarterbacks.
Kitner was in the NFL and played for Atlanta (when vick was injured) They traded him then....the other team (forgot their name) got rid of him....Jon Beutjer is going to be drafted this year i heard.
 

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Correct, both would be great. The fact that Cutliffe has coached the Manning boys and won a NC as a OC is pushing him over the edge.
 

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RIGHTO....I like Turner cause he is well respected too....Something that we might want
 
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