QB Competition during the spring

[Veer option]

I just don't trust a running QB to stay healthy. Especially one who has accuracy issues.

Luckily enough ND has two mobile QBs on the roster.

 

[kmoose]

We've seen Rees be accurate. He got happy feet from getting pummeled. Hendrix will have similar issues after taking a pounding over a whole year.

I just don't trust a running QB to stay healthy. Especially one who has accuracy issues.

If he earns it, you've got to give Hendrix the opportunity to earn the trust. But, please, as someone else stated in another thread....... let's show some class and not pile on Rees, who performed pretty well over the last couple of years, given his limitations. <--- not directed at you, aaron.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

We've seen Rees be accurate. He got happy feet from getting pummeled. Hendrix will have similar issues after taking a pounding over a whole year.

I just don't trust a running QB to stay healthy. Especially one who has accuracy issues.

Where in the hell are you getting "accuracy issues" with Hendrix? He threw some gorgeous passes tonight, passes that Tommy has consistently been unable to make. He threw one high ball that led to the int. Other than that, he was remarkably accurate for a kid "who doesn't know the offense" and was getting his first meaningful playing time... against a top 5 team, BTW. Accuracy issues my ***...

 

[pkt77242]

Where in the hell are you getting "accuracy issues" with Hendrix? He threw some gorgeous passes tonight, passes that Tommy has consistently been unable to make. He threw one high ball that led to the int. Other than that, he was remarkably accurate for a kid "who doesn't know the offense" and was getting his first meaningful playing time... against a top 5 team, BTW. Accuracy issues my ***...

Look, Hendrix played well tonight but he did have a tendency to throw the ball high and completed under 50% for the game. He played well and he did have some accuracy issues (nothing horrific, but maybe a release point tweaking).

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

Dismantled is probably a little strong. He completed less than 50% of his passes(11/24), and ran for all of 20 yards. He looked promising, and ready to get some real action, but he didn't dismantle anyone.

Well, hold on now. The stats never tell the full story.

I might be slightly off, but I believe Hendrix started the game 0/5 in the first half, with three of those passes being throw-aways. Then, add in the Toma "incompletion" and Eifert's criminal drop, and you have a pretty efficient performance through the air from a so-called running quarterback.

And 20 yards rushing? I know that the official stats say otherwise, but I don't personally see sacks where the offensive line doesn't block a soul as negative rushing plays (because they aren't). Hell, add in the amazing pitch Hendrix made to Wood on the one option play and you have the best rushing performance by a Notre Dame quarterback since Carlyle ****ing Holliday was under center!

Perhaps "dismantled" is a little overzealous -- well, actually it's stretching reality a good deal. However, the offense with Hendrix taking the snaps looked a threat on every single drive in the second half.

 

[4irishnation]

He threw 2 bad balls all night threw 4 great balls in his 1st legit time on the field i dont understand what the hell he is talking about. The pocket broke down sure he got sacked but also showed some elusiveness that in itself gives us a better chance 2 win. He put the ball on the ground, but then fell on top of the damn thing which is a lot more than I can say for either Tommy or Dayne. I thought he played great for a RSfresh no complaints from me and there should be none from any of you either well done ANDREW!!!

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Look, Hendrix played well tonight but he did have a tendency to throw the ball high and completed under 50% for the game. He played well and he did have some accuracy issues (nothing horrific, but maybe a release point tweaking).

Stats don't always tell the story. Several of the incompletions were intentional throw aways, others were drops. I'll say it again - The kid was getting his first meaningful playing time, and it just so happened it was against a top ranked team, to boot. He was remarkably accurate considering the circumstances. I will not accept someone saying he has "accuracy issues". There's nowhere near enough body of work to make that assessment, and what he did tonight doesn't even lead you to think he does, anyway.

 

[phork]

The battle is between Hendrix & Golson. Having a non running QB in this offense is killing the team. So long Crist, your contributions are noted, have a seat Tommy your red cap is over there and thanks for keeping the team on track for 2 winning seasons in a row. Others we'd be bankrupt of recruits.

 

[4irishnation]

I will not accept someone saying he has "accuracy issues". There's nowhere near enough body of work to make that assessment, and what he did tonight doesn't even lead you to think he does, anyway.

+++++1

 

[4irishnation]

The battle is between Hendrix & Golson. Having a non running QB in this offense is killing the team. So long Crist, your contributions are noted, have a seat Tommy your red cap is over there and thanks for keeping the team on track for 2 winning seasons in a row. Others we'd be bankrupt of recruits.

+1 nice work

 

[pkt77242]

Stats don't always tell the story. Several of the incompletions were intentional throw aways, others were drops. I'll say it again - The kid was getting his first meaningful playing time, and it just so happened it was against a top ranked team, to boot. He was remarkably accurate considering the circumstances. I will not accept someone saying he has "accuracy issues". There's nowhere near enough body of work to make that assessment, and what he did tonight doesn't even lead you to think he does, anyway.

I am not saying that he can't ever be accurate or that it is a deal breaker but he did seem to have a release point issue and was throwing a little high. Yes he has a strong arm and can throw the ball with good zip, and his accuracy and touch will probably improve with playing time and more practice time but he did have some issues throwing high. Oddly you are doing exactly the same thing that you always complained that the Rees supporters were doing.

 

[Freeman Ara]

We've seen Rees be accurate. He got happy feet from getting pummeled. Hendrix will have similar issues after taking a pounding over a whole year.

I just don't trust a running QB to stay healthy. Especially one who has accuracy issues.

We've seen Rees be accurate, but we have also seen him make bad decisons, he had another one tonight. I don't think you have seen Hendrix play enough to say that he has accuracy issues. From what I have seen he made some great throws, and he also had some throws that a guy with a handful of game reps will make.

 

[kmoose]

He threw 2 bad balls all night threw 4 great balls in his 1st legit time on the field i dont understand what the hell he is talking about. The pocket broke down sure he got sacked but also showed some elusiveness that in itself gives us a better chance 2 win. He put the ball on the ground, but then fell on top of the damn thing which is a lot more than I can say for either Tommy or Dayne. I thought he played great for a RSfresh no complaints from me and there should be none from any of you either well done ANDREW!!!

Dude, he was 11 of 24. He threw more than 2 bad balls. I was impressed with his first meaningful game time, but it's not like he looked awesome.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

Oddly you are doing exactly the same thing that you always complained that the Rees supporters were doing.

How do you reckon, sports fan? The only thing I am saying is that you cannot label someone with "accuracy problems" after one half of football. A half of football that actually was pretty good, and, against otherwise illogical assessments, pretty accurate considering the circumstances.

I'm not saying he's the next big thing. I'm not saying he isn't. All I am saying is that any logical observer cannot label the kid with "accuracy problems". Its absurd and embarrassing. Not sure how you can correlate any of that with Tommy defenders...

 

[kmoose]

All I am saying is that any logical observer cannot label the kid with "accuracy problems".

why not?

 

[4irishnation]

Dude, he was 11 of 24. He threw more than 2 bad balls. I was impressed with his first meaningful game time, but it's not like he looked awesome.

1 in first half into the chest of a LB over throw in second that was picked. 4-5 of those were throw aways a deep ball miss to floyd the toma diving attemp the eifert drop not his fault put the ball where his guy had a shot and the d didnt i was impressed with his play sorry u werent.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

why not?

Because he wasn't inaccurate in the half of football he played. Because its silly to label a football player (good or bad) after exactly 30 minutes of college level football in any case...

 

[4irishnation]

why not?

It might of well have been his first damn game SMH

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

Dude, he was 11 of 24. He threw more than 2 bad balls. I was impressed with his first meaningful game time, but it's not like he looked awesome.

Taking out his sporadic appearances in the first half, can you please name all of these bad passes that you saw? He was under duress all night, so unless you count purposely throwing the ball into the stands to avoid a sack a "bad ball," then the interception is literally the only really poor pass he threw in the second half.

If Eifert catches a ball that is right in his hands (literally a perfect pass) then he's right at 50%; if the referees don't take away Toma's catch, then he's over 50%... and that's with 5 or 6 throw-aways (he had to throw the ball away on ~1/4 of his passes!!).

If Hendrix's all-around play didn't excite you tonight, then football is not the sport for you.

 

[4irishnation]

RUFKM

 

[kmoose]

didnt i was impressed with his play sorry u werent.

And I'm sorry that you have reading comprehension issues. I specifically said that I was impressed.

 

[4irishnation]

If Hendrix's all-around play didn't excite you tonight, then football is not the sport for you.

REPS

 

[pkt77242]

How do you reckon, sports fan? The only thing I am saying is that you cannot label someone with "accuracy problems" after one half of football. A half of football that actually was pretty good, and, against otherwise illogical assessments, pretty accurate considering the circumstances.

I'm not saying he's the next big thing. I'm not saying he isn't. All I am saying is that any logical observer cannot label the kid with "accuracy problems". Its absurd and embarrassing.

Laughable you are acting like I have argued that he is a horribly inaccurate QB. Facts are that he was inaccurate tonight, we aren't arguing that he can't improve it but he was inaccurate tonight. Look no one expected him to hit 75% of his passes but hitting under 50% is inaccurate, period the end. Did he bring a stronger arm to stretch the field and a running threat to the offense. yep, and he made it more exciting. Do I think he will improve his accuracy when he starts the bowl game, yep but I think Kelly will work with him on his release point during the bowl practices (I am not worried about the touch issue as he will learn that with time, but throwing high is usually release point which does need to be corrected).

Just for the record, less than 50% is never pretty accurate. Sorry.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

why not?

Because the kid consistently threw the ball with tremendous zip into places where his receivers could make plays on the ball?

Goodness, kmoose, you are either a talented troll or a completely clueless observer.

 

[4irishnation]

And I'm sorry that you have reading comprehension issues. I specifically said that I was impressed.

Read it again JA (and the d didnt i was impressed with his play sorry u werent.) STILL SMH

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

hitting under 50% is inaccurate, period the end.

Welp, its just not a period. The circumstances show otherwise, and the case was made earlier in this thread. If you don't understand that numbers don't tell the whole story, then I don't know what to tell you.

 

[kmoose]

Because the kid consistently threw the ball with tremendous zip into places where his receivers could make plays on the ball?

Goodness, kmoose, you are either a talented troll or a completely clueless observer.

And you appear to be a presumptive hothead. I was looking for a reason why we should overlook his <46% completion percentage. If asking people to back up their contentions is clueless, then I guess I am.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

Facts are that he was inaccurate tonight,... but hitting under 50% is inaccurate, period the end...
Just for the record, less than 50% is never pretty accurate. Sorry.

Could you be completely wrong more times in one post? I don't think.

If you actually watched the game tonight (which you, apparently, did not), then you'd know that 5 or 6 of Hendrix's 24 passes were purposefully thrown away.

This isn't baseball, so take your all-knowing stats and stick them... well, you know where.

 

[pkt77242]

Because the kid consistently threw the ball with tremendous zip into places where his receivers could make plays on the ball?

Goodness, kmoose, you are either a talented troll or a completely clueless observer.

Do you overstate everything? Just so I can know how to evaluate your future posts. Look Kmoose and I are saying that he was exciting and made some nice plays but he was inaccurate tonight, not that he is horrible and shouldn't play. Yes it was his first extended playing time but under 50% is not a good number (and yes you can rationalize some of the passes but you can do that for any QB during any game). Generally when he missed, he missed high, which could be a couple of different things but is probably release point. Easy to fix if that is all but it still needs to be fixed.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

And you appear to be a presumptive hothead. I was looking for a reason why we should overlook his <46% completion percentage. If asking people to back up their contentions is clueless, then I guess I am.

The reasons have been laid out before your eyes in this very thread, and numerous times at that.

As for the bolded part, at least you can admit it.