Politics

[drayer54]

There's enough good guys with guns in there to keep everyone safe.

You're going to need them. As these bad people flood our country, they will get them (illegal- laws won't matter) and were going to be vulnerable to KC type shooters where everyone was illegally in possesion.

 

[Armyirish47]

Comparing late 1800's/ early 1900's immigration to the stuff we've seen at our border over the past few years is disingenuous, and you're smart enough to know that.

Further, the people who left Europe on big ships for New York went through a legal immigration process.

You asked how they got here, did you expect to hear about rocket ships? 20 million European immigrants came between 1880 and 1914 when the US population went from 50 million to 100 million. So you are right that it is nothing like what we've seen at our border, just not how you pretend.

Further, the immigration process back then was basically giving a high five after they made their mark, you want to go back to those salad days of your far more noble ancestors?

 

[TorontoGold]

You asked how they got here, did you expect to hear about rocket ships? 20 million European immigrants came between 1880 and 1914 when the US population went from 50 million to 100 million. So you are right that it is nothing like what we've seen at our border, just not how you pretend.

Further, the immigration process back then was basically giving a high five after they made their mark, you want to go back to those salad days of your far more noble ancestors?

Masterful gambit good sir! But you forgot, they were white! We like that. And as a very religious person my favourite verse is “I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I saw the filthy Mexicans and wanted to shoot them.” Limbaugh 69:420

 

[Bishop2b5]

You asked how they got here, did you expect to hear about rocket ships? 20 million European immigrants came between 1880 and 1914 when the US population went from 50 million to 100 million. So you are right that it is nothing like what we've seen at our border, just not how you pretend.

Further, the immigration process back then was basically giving a high five after they made their mark, you want to go back to those salad days of your far more noble ancestors?

This is some of the most ridiculous, misleading, intentionally dishonest BS to ever be shat from someone's mouth in this forum. Just flat out intentionally idiotic and dishonest. You're trying to equate legal immigration with sneaking across a border or invading a country illegally. Are you stupid enough to not know the difference, or are you stupid enough to think you can convince others that the two things are the same. This sort of half truth, ridiculous, twisted, ignorant, BS hypocrisy is why nobody takes you seriously and why we all laugh at similar arguments from you buffoons on the left. FFS, use facts and reason and bring something honest and real to the discussion instead of this childish nonsense.

 

[GoIrish41]

This is some of the most ridiculous, misleading, intentionally dishonest BS to ever be shat from someone's mouth in this forum. Just flat out intentionally idiotic and dishonest. You're trying to equate legal immigration with sneaking across a border or invading a country illegally. Are you stupid enough to not know the difference, or are you stupid enough to think you can convince others that the two things are the same. This sort of half truth, ridiculous, twisted, ignorant, BS hypocrisy is why nobody takes you seriously and why we all laugh at similar arguments from you buffoons on the left. FFS, use facts and reason and bring something honest and real to the discussion instead of this childish nonsense.

What a dick!

 

[Bishop2b5]

Masterful gambit good sir! But you forgot, they were white! We like that. And as a very religious person my favourite verse is “I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I saw the filthy Mexicans and wanted to shoot them.” Limbaugh 69:420

Speaking of twisting and dishonesty and strawman arguing and bringing nothing of substance to any discussion...

 

[Bishop2b5]

What a dick!

What a brilliant, well thought out rebuttal when you know I'm 100 correct and you can't refute a word of what I said. Brilliant. Simply brilliant!

 

[Sea Turtle]

Masterful gambit good sir! But you forgot, they were white! We like that. And as a very religious person my favourite verse is “I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I saw the filthy Mexicans and wanted to shoot them.” Limbaugh 69:420

Yeah those 'white' greasy Italians who were stuck in ghettos and looked down on and the Irish who couldn't get jobs and told to go back were 'liked' quite a bit when they got here. And those European Jews were just embraced whole heartedly 😀

 

[GoIrish41]

What a brilliant, well thought out rebuttal when you know I'm 100 correct and you can't refute a word of what I said. Brilliant. Simply brilliant!

You are not worthy of an intelligent response. You will just ignore it and call people idiotic and claim their POV is nonsense … because you are closed-minded, arrogant dick!

 

[Armyirish47]

This is some of the most ridiculous, misleading, intentionally dishonest BS to ever be shat from someone's mouth in this forum. Just flat out intentionally idiotic and dishonest. You're trying to equate legal immigration with sneaking across a border or invading a country illegally. Are you stupid enough to not know the difference, or are you stupid enough to think you can convince others that the two things are the same. This sort of half truth, ridiculous, twisted, ignorant, BS hypocrisy is why nobody takes you seriously and why we all laugh at similar arguments from you buffoons on the left. FFS, use facts and reason and bring something honest and real to the discussion instead of this childish nonsense.

You type with your mouth? Lol!

He asked how people got here. I answered.

He compared it to European immigration from the late 1800's and early 1900s. I responded with, you know, data.

Of COURSE the mayor of Mayberry, AL, ole Windy himself had to break out his fainting couch for a case study of his patented histrionics. You lard up the forum with your hormones and strawmen, then set about perching on your high horse of idiocy.

Feel free to point out any facts or reason you brought to the actual discussion. Or don't, as none exist per usual, and instead tell us a tale of old when immigration was <insert bullshit story from your childhood>.

 

[TorontoGold]

Yeah those 'white' greasy Italians who were stuck in ghettos and looked down on and the Irish who couldn't get jobs and told to go back were 'liked' quite a bit when they got here. And those European Jews were just embraced whole heartedly 😀

Exactly my point! The yearning of yester year is so dumb when it wasn’t like immigrants were welcomed.

 

[TorontoGold]

Speaking of twisting and dishonesty and strawman arguing and bringing nothing of substance to any discussion...

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Has your cat taught you any calculus yet? Or are you on your humiliation kink arc where you get clowned on? To each their own!

 

[Sea Turtle]

Exactly my point! The yearning of yester year is so dumb when it wasn’t like immigrants were welcomed.

Yep. I think it's just human nature to feel threatened by a bunch of newcomers.

 

[Bishop2b5]

You are not worthy of an intelligent response. You will just ignore it and call people idiotic and claim their POV is nonsense … because you are closed-minded, arrogant dick!

It's amazing how often I'm a dick to people who are willfully ignorant, dishonest, and hypocritical, but never to anyone else. It's almost like there's a pattern or something. 😘

 

[GoIrish41]

It's amazing how often I'm a dick to people who are willfully ignorant, dishonest, and hypocritical, but never to anyone else. It's almost like there's a pattern or something. 😘

The pattern is that you are a dick every time.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

You asked how they got here, did you expect to hear about rocket ships? 20 million European immigrants came between 1880 and 1914 when the US population went from 50 million to 100 million. So you are right that it is nothing like what we've seen at our border, just not how you pretend.

Further, the immigration process back then was basically giving a high five after they made their mark, you want to go back to those salad days of your far more noble ancestors?

1) I not only asked how they got here from Asia/ Africa, I asked why you don't even begin to wonder the same. Chinese spies? Gang members? Human traffickers? Come one, come all. Just vote Democrat when you're here.

2) At minimum, I'd like to see the border patrol get covid vaccination cards for everyone who wants in. You know...general welfare and all.

3) Perth told me weeks ago that every swinging dick who shows up at our border is claiming asylum. If they are persecuted/ threatened in their home country how the hell did they catch a plane ride here from a different continent? And if their asylum claim is legit, they are to seek refuge at the closest neighboring country regardless of their race, nationality, religion etc.

4) No other country on earth would tolerate this insanity.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Masterful gambit good sir! But you forgot, they were white! We like that. And as a very religious person my favourite verse is “I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I saw the filthy Mexicans and wanted to shoot them.” Limbaugh 69:420

This is completely ignorant of the discrimination endured by every immigrant group from 100-150 years ago.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

The pattern is that you are a dick every time.

Speaking to your posts today but not limited to today, you've contributed zero substance to the conversation and have resorted to calling someone a dick because you disagree with his opinions. If his post isn't worth your time to refute it, then it's a waste of everyone's time for you to call him a dick.

Be an adult or say nothing.

 

[Bishop2b5]

The pattern is that you are a dick every time.

Nah, it only seems that way to you because you've chosen to remain in the target category instead of engaging in civil, honest, factual, and rational conversation as you used to do.

 

[Armyirish47]

1) I not only asked how they got here from Asia/ Africa, I asked why you don't even begin to wonder the same. Chinese spies? Gang members? Human traffickers? Come one, come all. Just vote Democrat when you're here.

2) At minimum, I'd like to see the border patrol get covid vaccination cards for everyone who wants in. You know...general welfare and all.

3) Perth told me weeks ago that every swinging dick who shows up at our border is claiming asylum. If they are persecuted/ threatened in their home country how the hell did they catch a plane ride here from a different continent? And if their asylum claim is legit, they are to seek refuge at the closest neighboring country regardless of their race, nationality, religion etc.

4) No other country on earth would tolerate this insanity.

1) You literally just asked "HOW migrants from different continents arrived at our border?" Everything else you might have been asking in your head, but it did not make it to the post. I responded with the obvious, boats, because I alas am not a mind reader. Your concocted democratic coalition of trafficking, spying, gangbangers who all take the time to vote upon arrival when not doing their otherwise nefarious business is....well it's something.

2) Alright?

3) Modern travel is confoundingly cheap, even for the persecuted. Sad state of affairs that. I'm not entirely sure what you mean about the asylum claim process, could you clarify your concern or are you stating how you want asylum to work whether for legit or presumably non legit claims?

4) Possibly, but no other country on earth is the shining city on the hill and as I pointed out earlier, we've been tolerating it for about 150 years now. Gotta love tradition!

 

[TorontoGold]

This is completely ignorant of the discrimination endured by every immigrant group from 100-150 years ago.

Is it? Because that’s how windbags today look back at the good ol days of hard working immigrants coming for a better future. You specifically, pointed to how great the immigration laws worked back then but have yet to acknowledge the actual laws in place back then. Just that they must have been good because…..well those immigrants must have been law abiding.

Would you want those laws to be in place today?

Also lol @ me being ignorant of racial discrimination. You can’t be pushing replacement theory stuff and THEN say I’m ignorant of discrimination. Just lean into it man.

 

[Sea Turtle]

I think we should discriminate against Canadians. They are dangerous and, frankly, need to be stopped.

I understand they have invaded the United States with Justin Bieber, Drake, Ryan Reynolds, Seth Rogan and Ryan Gosling. Also, Celine Dion, The Rock and Michael Buble.

This is grounds for war.

 

[GoIrish41]

Speaking to your posts today but not limited to today, you've contributed zero substance to the conversation and have resorted to calling someone a dick because you disagree with his opinions. If his post isn't worth your time to refute it, then it's a waste of everyone's time for you to call him a dick.

Be an adult or say nothing.

Here is the out of the blue post the dick made to ArmyIrish…

“This is some of the most ridiculous, misleading, intentionally dishonest BS to ever be shat from someone's mouth in this forum. Just flat out intentionally idiotic and dishonest. You're trying to equate legal immigration with sneaking across a border or invading a country illegally. Are you stupid enough to not know the difference, or are you stupid enough to think you can convince others that the two things are the same.” …

That doesn’t seem productive or of substance. But you said nothing to him about him ripping ArmyIrish because you agree with him. Look in the mirror.

Nothing on this thread has been substantive for a long, long time. Every stale argument has made and nobody has moved an inch on their positions. But I’ll tell ya what, you tell Bishop to stop being a dick and I’ll stop calling him a dick. Until then piss off.

 

[drayer54]

I just assumed all Dem mayors acted this way. She just got to meet Biden too!

The former burger joint owner turned local politician is under fire for allegedly plundering Dolton’s coffers for personal extravagances, and using law enforcement allies to oppress opponents.

Illinois mayor shuts down local businesses that don’t contribute to her campaign, dresses like a movie gangster: citizens

“People look at politics like a joke, it’s like a mockery right now because of all this stuff,” Village of Dolton Trustee Brittney Norwood told The Post.

nypost.com

 

[Bishop2b5]

I'm absolutely shocked! A crooked dem politician in Illinois??? Who ever heard of such a thing?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Here is the out of the blue post the dick made to ArmyIrish…

“This is some of the most ridiculous, misleading, intentionally dishonest BS to ever be shat from someone's mouth in this forum. Just flat out intentionally idiotic and dishonest. You're trying to equate legal immigration with sneaking across a border or invading a country illegally. Are you stupid enough to not know the difference, or are you stupid enough to think you can convince others that the two things are the same.” …

That doesn’t seem productive or of substance. But you said nothing to him about him ripping ArmyIrish because you agree with him. Look in the mirror.

Nothing on this thread has been substantive for a long, long time. Every stale argument has made and nobody has moved an inch on their positions. But I’ll tell ya what, you tell Bishop to stop being a dick and I’ll stop calling him a dick. Until then piss off.

Criticizing another person's opinion isn't the same as calling someone a dick every time they post. I wouldn't have said it in the same manner Bishop did there, but he kept it a level above what you did.

There's been plenty of meaningful/ useful stuff in this thread. Not all, but enough. People don't have to change their minds for the thread to be worthwhile.

And i'll pass on the piss off part because well, I'm not British.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Is it? Because that’s how windbags today look back at the good ol days of hard working immigrants coming for a better future. You specifically, pointed to how great the immigration laws worked back then but have yet to acknowledge the actual laws in place back then. Just that they must have been good because…..well those immigrants must have been law abiding.

Would you want those laws to be in place today?

Also lol @ me being ignorant of racial discrimination. You can’t be pushing replacement theory stuff and THEN say I’m ignorant of discrimination. Just lean into it man.

People flowing through a legal immigration process, limited as it may ave been 100 years ago, is lightyears better than what's happening at our border now.

And yes, pretending brown and black people are the only groups of immigrants who have experienced discrimination in the US is ignorant, as much as you want it to fit your narrative. Go watch Gangs of New York or Far and Away for starters.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

1) You literally just asked "HOW migrants from different continents arrived at our border?" Everything else you might have been asking in your head, but it did not make it to the post. I responded with the obvious, boats, because I alas am not a mind reader. Your concocted democratic coalition of trafficking, spying, gangbangers who all take the time to vote upon arrival when not doing their otherwise nefarious business is....well it's something.

2) Alright?

3) Modern travel is confoundingly cheap, even for the persecuted. Sad state of affairs that. I'm not entirely sure what you mean about the asylum claim process, could you clarify your concern or are you stating how you want asylum to work whether for legit or presumably non legit claims?

4) Possibly, but no other country on earth is the shining city on the hill and as I pointed out earlier, we've been tolerating it for about 150 years now. Gotta love tradition!

1) Read it again. I asked WHY some people don't even bother to ask how migrants from other continents ended up at our border, especially in the large numbers we've seen recently.

2) Cool.

3) Not sure what part of travel has gotten cheap, but it sure as hell isn't transcontinental airline tickets.

4) We will continue being the shining city on the hill, but some of our cities are (literally and by their admission) already out of funds and facilities for migrants.

 

[TorontoGold]

People flowing through a legal immigration process, limited as it may ave been 100 years ago, is lightyears better than what's happening at our border now.

And yes, pretending brown and black people are the only groups of immigrants who have experienced discrimination in the US is ignorant, as much as you want it to fit your narrative. Go watch Gangs of New York or Far and Away for starters.

So what are the differences in policies? I don’t know what you’re pointing to when you say it was better back then.

I’m literally not saying that at all. It’s exactly why I pointed to how people called Italians and Irish different names. It’s specifically to point out how people bemoaning about immigration now would be the exact same people calling Italians wops back then. The whole point of learning about history is to not let bad things happen again. Maybe you should rewatch those movies to learn about how not to think of immigrants.

My narrative is not to treat immigrants poorly. We both know that the immigrants were treated terribly back then, one of us doesn’t think that should happen again.

 

[drayer54]

When the media is critical of a Democrat- is only to benefit another Democrat.

3 outlets reporting about potential Biden corruption at once? Seems odd.