Politics

[TorontoGold]

“What’s so terrible” about forcing a woman to have a child against her will…..so what’s the big deal?

I did answer it’s there. All the risk is with the woman. The man is risk free. Forcing a woman to give birth and carry a child has risks to her physically, or the child may harm the woman or it may be deformed and still born and then she has to carry a dead baby because abortion is illegal in the state she lives in or she could get septic or any number of issues which she can’t go seek help for across state lines because she could get arrested. What’s he big deal??? Literally every pregnancy has a risk to the mothers heath for nine months until the baby is out of her. Why is that so terrible … cmon man. That right there tells me everything. You think a woman is simply a piece of biological equipment to be at the mercy of a man. I’m racking my brain to think of some equivalent situation where a man would be forced to do something like this and it just doesn’t exist. It’s unique to women and their life experience and men will never know anything about this let alone having to go through it multiple times. Maybe there should be a law for men where every speed has to be accounted for and that requires invasive monitoring to ensure you don’t waste one single sperm. To waste your sperm is a felony. That’s as close as I can come to the burden it puts on women.

Forget about her own independence as well. She can just give up 9 months of her life and another three months recovering and trying to get her life back after giving away the baby she didn’t want in the first place. What’s so terrible about that? 😂 Meanwhile the dude is free…. Free and unburdened to continue his life as normal and totally able to get more pussy when he wants it because he ain’t hitting that shit again while she is pregnant and doesn’t want him near her. 😂. Bro…

I already posted there are three scenarios:
1. Unmarried man and unmarried woman have sex. Assume it’s consensual. Pregnancy occurs. Man doesn’t want it. She doesn’t want it. She gets an abortion. That is her right to do so as it’s her body. The man’s rights are irrelevant as he doesn’t want it. Or she lives in a state that doesn’t allow it and now she is forced to carry it.

2. Unmarried man and unmarried woman have sex. Assume it’s consensual. Preganacy occurs. Woman doesn’t want but the man does. She gets an abortion. That is her right to do so as it’s her body. The man’s rights end here and are still irrelevant. This where your scenario begins… what’s so terrible about it? Unless she lives in a state that bans it and she is forced to carry it to term. Again her bodily autonomy and agency has been taken away.

3. Married man and woman have sex and get pregnant. They can decide what to do because they both have legal agency in the matter. They would also be more apt to discuss and make a decision that. You agree with. It could be one wants it and another doesn’t (man or woman doesn’t matter) and this becomes an issue. In their marriage they have to deal with. Unless they live in a state that bans it and now the woman is forced to carry it to term whether she wants it or not.

Or she wants it, keeps it and doesn’t get an abortion and becomes a mother whether the male is involved or not. That’s it. That is all there is to it. Three scenarios that are influenced by the people in their own specific situations and their own personal decisions based on what’s best for them, mentally, physically and financially. Making that decision for them is against their rights as individual humans.

Now assume it’s non-consensual, rape, incestuous, underage,….and they are forced to carry this baby to term with no ability to cross state lines even if the mothers life is at risk or in emergency need of care due to being pregnant.

But every burden will be taken care of? Nothing dystopian about forcing a woman to become your personal incubator.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This Nikki trying to be tough. Good lord. Same shit over and over. You aren’t going to do shit to Ss or Medicare. 70% of your voters are geriatrics on Medicare and ss. Lmao

 

[Irish#1]

“What’s so terrible” about forcing a woman to have a child against her will…..so what’s the big deal?

I did answer it’s there. All the risk is with the woman. The man is risk free. Forcing a woman to give birth and carry a child has risks to her physically, or the child may harm the woman or it may be deformed and still born and then she has to carry a dead baby because abortion is illegal in the state she lives in or she could get septic or any number of issues which she can’t go seek help for across state lines because she could get arrested. What’s he big deal??? Literally every pregnancy has a risk to the mothers heath for nine months until the baby is out of her. Why is that so terrible … cmon man. That right there tells me everything. You think a woman is simply a piece of biological equipment to be at the mercy of a man. I’m racking my brain to think of some equivalent situation where a man would be forced to do something like this and it just doesn’t exist. It’s unique to women and their life experience and men will never know anything about this let alone having to go through it multiple times. Maybe there should be a law for men where every speed has to be accounted for and that requires invasive monitoring to ensure you don’t waste one single sperm. To waste your sperm is a felony. That’s as close as I can come to the burden it puts on women.

Forget about her own independence as well. She can just give up 9 months of her life and another three months recovering and trying to get her life back after giving away the baby she didn’t want in the first place. What’s so terrible about that? 😂 Meanwhile the dude is free…. Free and unburdened to continue his life as normal and totally able to get more pussy when he wants it because he ain’t hitting that shit again while she is pregnant and doesn’t want him near her. 😂. Bro…

I already posted there are three scenarios:
1. Unmarried man and unmarried woman have sex. Assume it’s consensual. Pregnancy occurs. Man doesn’t want it. She doesn’t want it. She gets an abortion. That is her right to do so as it’s her body. The man’s rights are irrelevant as he doesn’t want it. Or she lives in a state that doesn’t allow it and now she is forced to carry it.

2. Unmarried man and unmarried woman have sex. Assume it’s consensual. Preganacy occurs. Woman doesn’t want but the man does. She gets an abortion. That is her right to do so as it’s her body. The man’s rights end here and are still irrelevant. This where your scenario begins… what’s so terrible about it? Unless she lives in a state that bans it and she is forced to carry it to term. Again her bodily autonomy and agency has been taken away.

3. Married man and woman have sex and get pregnant. They can decide what to do because they both have legal agency in the matter. They would also be more apt to discuss and make a decision that. You agree with. It could be one wants it and another doesn’t (man or woman doesn’t matter) and this becomes an issue. In their marriage they have to deal with. Unless they live in a state that bans it and now the woman is forced to carry it to term whether she wants it or not.

Or she wants it, keeps it and doesn’t get an abortion and becomes a mother whether the male is involved or not. That’s it. That is all there is to it. Three scenarios that are influenced by the people in their own specific situations and their own personal decisions based on what’s best for them, mentally, physically and financially. Making that decision for them is against their rights as individual humans.

Now assume it’s non-consensual, rape, incestuous, underage,….and they are forced to carry this baby to term with no ability to cross state lines even if the mothers life is at risk or in emergency need of care due to being pregnant.

Further everyone always talks about the number of abortions in this country each year. Well the number of natural abortions but spontaneous abortions occur in nearly 30% of all pregnancies every year. The rate of elective abortion is now around 11-15% per 1000 women. 50% of all women can be expected to have at least one miscarriage otherwise known as a spontaneous abortion. After the first miscarriage their likelihood of another increases 46% and can present significant health risk the woman for various conditions. The risk of forcing a woman to carry a child poses significant risks to their health that a man just does not have to deal with or worry about.

Of course pregnancy has its risks, but we know those are low. Google says "Between 1990 and 2015, the maternal mortality ratio has decreased from 385 deaths per 100,000 live births to 216 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births." That's .002% of mothers that die from the pregnancy. Another google stat, "In 2021, there were 3,664,292 live births in the United States.".

The way you put it, women shouldn't get pregnant at all because there's too much risk.

 

[Irish#1]

This Nikki trying to be tough. Good lord. Same shit over and over. You aren’t going to do shit to Ss or Medicare. 70% of your voters are geriatrics on Medicare and ss. Lmao

Once again they leave out the part of replacing with a better system.

 

[drayer54]

Once again they leave out the part of replacing with a better system.

I love how Lincoln Project evolved from never-Trump grifters to just paid Democrat advocates.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

This Nikki trying to be tough. Good lord. Same shit over and over. You aren’t going to do shit to Ss or Medicare. 70% of your voters are geriatrics on Medicare and ss. Lmao

The two programs are extremely popular among Americans.

JFC, it's like telling your three year old the stove is hot and don't touch it.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Once again they leave out the part of replacing with a better system.

They do t have a better system. Their solution is to cut it. That’s it.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Of course pregnancy has its risks, but we know those are low. Google says "Between 1990 and 2015, the maternal mortality ratio has decreased from 385 deaths per 100,000 live births to 216 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births." That's .002% of mothers that die from the pregnancy. Another google stat, "In 2021, there were 3,664,292 live births in the United States.".

The way you put it, women shouldn't get pregnant at all because there's too much risk.

Again you seem to missing the entire point because you appear to view them as incubation equipment. Mortality rate isn’t the only risk. Lol

Women are not obligated to give birth. Some women don’t want children and they have any number of reasons for not wanting them. Health risk is generally a huge factor. And of a woman doesn’t want to take a risk giving birth she HAS that right. No one can force her to do that which is why these abortion bans are horrible.

 

[drayer54]

The guy that fucked us with the inflation reduction act saw the writing on the wall. Now some purple haired Hamas fan can lose by 30.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Liberal and moderate candidates take control of school boards in contentious races across US

Liberal and moderate candidates have won seats in high-profile polarizing elections against social conservatives across the U.S.

apnews.com

 

[drayer54]

Not surprising after treasury auction this week struggled to get buyers.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Their mask is completely off now. They don’t give a fuck about election integrity, democracy or will of the people. It’s their way or they will burn it down.

 

[GATTACA!]

Their mask is completely off now. They don’t give a fuck about election integrity, democracy or will of the people. It’s their way or they will burn it down.

Whatever. Everyone knows pure democracies are not the way to run a country.

 

[drayer54]

Their mask is completely off now. They don’t give a fuck about election integrity, democracy or will of the people. It’s their way or they will burn it down.

Projection is real.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

 

[NDMatt91]

Christie is spot on

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Whatever. Everyone knows pure democracies are not the way to run a country.

Apparently states rights but not like that.

 

[drayer54]

 

[Irish#1]

Another one bites the dust. I wonder if there wasn't something curious going on behind the scenes? There was an article on him being single and that there has only been one president that was a bachelor. Then unannounced he brought his girlfriend up on stage at a rally, even though no one knew about her before that. Just seemed really strange, but hey, it's politics.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/12/politics/tim-scott-ends-presidential-campaign/index.html

 

[Irish#1]

NYC Mayor Adams being investigated for influencing and taking foreign donations.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/12/politics/eric-adams-investigation-cooperate/index.html

 

[GATTACA!]

NYC Mayor Adams being investigated for influencing and taking foreign donations.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/12/politics/eric-adams-investigation-cooperate/index.html

Least surprising headline ever. He was always a scumbag. They should have elected Yang.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

NYC Mayor Adams being investigated for influencing and taking foreign donations.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/12/politics/eric-adams-investigation-cooperate/index.html

Good. Get rid of all the corrupt POSs

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Another one bites the dust. I wonder if there wasn't something curious going on behind the scenes? There was an article on him being single and that there has only been one president that was a bachelor. Then unannounced he brought his girlfriend up on stage at a rally, even though no one knew about her before that. Just seemed really strange, but hey, it's politics.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/12/politics/tim-scott-ends-presidential-campaign/index.html

I'll tell you this.... Scott has not once ever appeared with any female in public in all the years I've been following him as my states Senator. No one in the state knew of this woman or any women before. I mean it was common knowledge he wasn't involved with anyone. SO much so that once reporters starting writing pieces on his single life and how that would play as President... questions were being asked of him. He is unmarried, childless.... Along with Graham..... Tim Scott being gay is not as pronounced as Lindsey has been but it been tossed around. Then out of the blue he makes a spectacle of it last week and no one believes him. If he was in fact involved with the woman on stage, it was a surprise to almost everyone locally. My bet is the donor money dried up effective immediately and he pulled out.

 

[Irish#1]

I'll tell you this.... Scott has not once ever appeared with any female in public in all the years I've been following him as my states Senator. No one in the state knew of this woman or any women before. I mean it was common knowledge he wasn't involved with anyone. SO much so that once reporters starting writing pieces on his single life and how that would play as President... questions were being asked of him. He is unmarried, childless.... Along with Graham..... Tim Scott being gay is not as pronounced as Lindsey has been but it been tossed around. Then out of the blue he makes a spectacle of it last week and no one believes him. If he was in fact involved with the woman on stage, it was a surprise to almost everyone locally. My bet is the donor money dried up effective immediately and he pulled out.

The money did dry up as the PAC decided to stop supporting him. I think it was after he had the lady on the stage. That's why I was wondering if there wasn't something percolating behind the scenes that made him decide to drop out?

 

[drayer54]

Another one bites the dust. I wonder if there wasn't something curious going on behind the scenes? There was an article on him being single and that there has only been one president that was a bachelor. Then unannounced he brought his girlfriend up on stage at a rally, even though no one knew about her before that. Just seemed really strange, but hey, it's politics.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/12/politics/tim-scott-ends-presidential-campaign/index.html

The dude got a girlfriend. He's done. I don't think we have a shady Clymer backdoor session with deals made like they did when Joe was anointed. That needs to come. We must let Ronny D. and Haley fight for the alternative spot and then drop out after NH. Burgum needs to drop. Christie needs to drop. Vivek is stupid, so he's going to do what he wants.

Tim Scott has been the gossiped VP choice for Trump. I doubt he will endorse soon.

Also- for those who want to dump trillions on gender studies in Kenya and Pakistan and have no budget for anything renewables-
I'm seriously doubting Yellen's claim we can fight two wars.

 

[yankeehater]

Baby Indi was killed today. Governments and people are truly evil.

Indi Gregory dies after being removed from life support; parents 'angry, heartbroken'

An 8-month-old baby girl in England died early on Monday after a court ordered her off life support and transferred to an in-patient hospice last week against the wishes of her parents

www.christianpost.com

MSN

 

[yankeehater]

What happened to Baby Indi is the new trend as governments push to eliminate the drainers from society. Medically assisted death (MAID) was the #4 cause of death in 2022 for Canada. They are now pushing, I mean, offering these programs to addicts and other downtrodden individuals. Where will this end? Heck, Bloomberg ran for President in the United States and stated in a debate about his plan to rid of US of its drainers and no one batted an eye. Truly sickening.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/maid-canada-report-2022-1.7009704

 

[Sea Turtle]

Baby Indi was killed today. Governments and people are truly evil.

Indi Gregory dies after being removed from life support; parents 'angry, heartbroken'

An 8-month-old baby girl in England died early on Monday after a court ordered her off life support and transferred to an in-patient hospice last week against the wishes of her parents

www.christianpost.com

MSN

This crap just reminds me of the eugenics doctrine that science was pushing in the 3 or 4 decades of the 20th century.

 

[GATTACA!]

What happened to Baby Indi is the new trend as governments push to eliminate the drainers from society. Medically assisted death (MAID) was the #4 cause of death in 2022 for Canada. They are now pushing, I mean, offering these programs to addicts and other downtrodden individuals. Where will this end? Heck, Bloomberg ran for President in the United States and stated in a debate about his plan to rid of US of its drainers and no one batted an eye. Truly sickening.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/maid-canada-report-2022-1.7009704

How are they "medically assisted"? Are these otherwise healthy people coming into the hospital with the desire to kill themselves, or geriatric people in hospice in vegetative states put out of their misery?

In 2021, just 2.2 per cent of MAID recipients — 223 people — were patients whose natural deaths were not reasonably foreseeable. Gaind said the report "completely minimizes the numbers."

This makes it seem like it's mostly the latter.

 

[Irish#1]

Baby Indi was killed today. Governments and people are truly evil.

Indi Gregory dies after being removed from life support; parents 'angry, heartbroken'

An 8-month-old baby girl in England died early on Monday after a court ordered her off life support and transferred to an in-patient hospice last week against the wishes of her parents

www.christianpost.com

MSN

What the hell is wrong with those justices?