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  • Obama

    Votes: 4 1.1%
  • Romney

    Votes: 172 48.9%
  • Other

    Votes: 46 13.1%
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    Votes: 130 36.9%

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chicago51

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Well done Mr. President!

Great job indeed.

Let's get work: On creating jobs can I get an American jobs act round 2 got filibustered last time, on fixing immigration, on reducing our debt in a balance way that is fair, on keep children safe, and giving people a fair opportunity to vote.
 

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That's exactly what many rich people want you to believe. Taxing them and creating more revenue won't do any good so why bother. Just cut things that benefit the wretched working class.


Well, the problem is, government doesn't save or spend money wisely. They would spend any increased revenue on various pet projects. The more they get, the more they spend.
 

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Great job indeed.

Let's get work: On creating jobs can I get an American jobs act round 2 got filibustered last time, on fixing immigration, on reducing our debt in a balance way that is fair, on keep children safe, and giving people a fair opportunity to vote.

Infrastructure investment has the potential to pay back 1000x what it cost. But, only if its done correctly intially. The project will surely go to the biggest donor to Obama's campaign and excessive wages will be paid to build everything. Keynesian economics do not work. Spending will not fix our economy.

Increasing the mininum wage is a bad idea. It will create inflation and since wages are the last part of the equation to respond to an increase in cost the sudden price jump of pretty much everything will leave the worker in debt and further devalue our currency.

Spending on schools is a disaster and drain on money that sparks corruption. Theres huge money to be made by the few who profit on the limited choice of the many.

Also, at what point does it become unfair to tax the rich? 40% 50% 60% 75%? Government does not save money, it will spend every last dime and pull out the credit cards. In 15 years will it be fair to take 60% of the the wealthies salary? Another 15 years 75%? Its easy to take from the money tree when it isnt yours, and both sides of government are in no way reponsible enough to manage its finances.

Also...the housing collapse was created by wreckless malinvestment decisions that were created by the fed in holding down interest rates while creating the illusion that our economy was better than it was. Banks began lending bullshit loans to idiots that couldnt do simple math. Then, the fed raised interest rates to high which caused the meltdown. The market reacted the fictional reality created by the fed which was encouraged by our government (both sides)
 

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Rubio: same old tired bullsh*t that cost them the election. small government, don't raise taxes, Obama is a tax and spend liberal, blah blah blah.
 

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Rubio doesn't have the clout to respond to a President. He just read a typical tea party negative agenda speech off a teleprompter and failed miserably. The cheesy car salesman smile at the end was scary.
 

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GoIrish41

Did you read these articles? They are simplistic and again written by a journalist who has no understanding of finance or economics. It is not that easy to just create a subsidiary in Ireland and presto you pay lower taxes. You actually have to justify transferring the patents and pay the company that initially created the patent a royalty. But let's just say for arguments sake that Congress passes some type of law that a US company will be taxed at US rates based on its consolidated worldwide income. Remember when I facetiously proposed taxing all income over $1M at 100%. You said people would not pay this tax by simply stop working when they reach this threshold. Well I think it is safe to say that if Congress passed a law to tax a parent company on worldwide consolidated income, the parent would simply relocate to a foreign county which does not impose this type of tax and have a subsidiary operate in the US. Simple. Eliminate the "loophole" and end up getting less tax revenue. Shortsighted.

David Callahan is simply a left wing wingnut. There is absolutely nothing of value in that article.

Warren Buffet is a hypocrite. He can pay himself a large cash salary and his would be taxed at the highest rate, but again, it is not that simple. Capital gains and dividends taxes are not loopholes. There are actually logical reasons for taxing them at a preferred rate, foremost is that raising taxes on capital gains and dividends will only discourage individuals from saving. Why save and earn income off your saving if the government is going to confiscate it via taxes and re-distribute it to individuals who don't save. Simply have fun spending the money and collect government support from those individuals who are stupid enough to save and invest and pay the tax.

Anyway, that is it for me. Good luck to you and Chicago. You both will make exceptional comrades.
 

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Rubio: same old tired bullsh*t that cost them the election. small government, don't raise taxes, Obama is a tax and spend liberal, blah blah blah.

Small government and no taxes wasn't (and isn't) a bad policy-- enforcing morality and having a ridiculous foreign policy and alienating latinos and hating immigrants are bad policies.
 

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Rubio doesn't have the clout to respond to a President. He just read a typical tea party negative agenda speech off a teleprompter and failed miserably. The cheesy car salesman smile at the end was scary.

I thought he looked and acted nervous. he was having trouble with his mouth drying out. when he walked off camera to pick up a bottle of water in the middle of his speech I felt embarassed for him. I thought this moment was too big for him. If he's the best the GOP has for 16, Hillary is going to crush him.
 
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Downinthebend

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I mean, caring about some people getting screwed in taxes by the government is one thing, but I would look first at some people getting out of their life first.
 

GoIrish41

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I mean, caring about some people getting screwed in taxes by the government is one thing, but I would look first at some people getting out of their life first.

I read this three times and can't figure out what you were saying. a little help?
 

chicago51

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If the GOP wants to earn tiny ounce of my respect the House needs to re up the violence against women act after failing to do so during the last Congress.
 

chicago51

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I think small government and individual liberty is a solution to almost everything.

Depends on what you see government for.

I see government if ran correctly as the provider of liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Government to me should be there to ensure we have those rights.

I support John Locke's and Thomas Jefferson's theory on the role of government. That government is not simply there to protect our rights it is there provide these rights in certain circumstances.
 
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chicago51

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Rubio doesn't have the clout to respond to a President. He just read a typical tea party negative agenda speech off a teleprompter and failed miserably. The cheesy car salesman smile at the end was scary.

You notice they criticize the president's idea but they don't propose their own. They say they want cuts but won't be specific in the cuts. They know the cuts they want are not popular with the people. The want the president to make the cuts they want so he then would receive the blame.
 

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Small government and no taxes wasn't (and isn't) a bad policy-- enforcing morality and having a ridiculous foreign policy and alienating latinos and hating immigrants are bad policies.

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Small gov wouldve prolly won the election, if not for the religious/immigration stances holding them back
 

chicago51

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Small gov wouldve prolly won the election, if not for the religious/immigration stances holding them back

As someone who looks at lot of polls I can't say I agree. A solid majority even more than the majority that voted Obama don't want cuts to social security Medicare or Medicaid. Show me a poll that does.

Also with the idea that immigration cost the GOP Latino votes is inconclusive. Latino's pull liberal on almost every issue. It may have gotten the GOP some Cuban votes as Cubans are a bit more don't want another Castro conservative but that is about it.
 
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It may have gotten the GOP some Cuban votes as Cubans are a bit more don't want another Castro conservative but that is about it.

Castro isn't a conservative you twit. He's a communist! That's as left as it gets!
 

chicago51

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Castro isn't a conservative you twit. He's a communist! That's as left as it gets!

Yea type that out wrong should said don't want another Castro so I am conservative".

I am aware of that Castro is a communist. My statement did imply Cubans would vote conservative more often than say Mexicans.

Buster I am going to go against my better judgement and rep you even though you called me twit. As some your challenges at times actually make me think just a little bit. Can't say the same about other posters.

I all can say God bless free speech.
 
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DSully1995

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As someone who looks at lot of polls I can't say I agree. A solid majority even more than the majority that voted Obama don't want cuts to social security Medicare or Medicaid. Show me a poll that does.

Also with the idea that immigration cost the GOP Latino votes is inconclusive. Latino's pull liberal on almost every issue. It may have gotten the GOP some Cuban votes as Cubans are a bit more don't want another Castro conservative but that is about it.

Smaller gov doesnt equal medicare cuts, especially in political talk, because no wants cuts to medicare/SS, but alot do want smaller gov. Its the same thing with obamacare, lots of people support each individual element, but the sum is disliked.

Back to what im saying, if GOP could preach smaller gov without religious/immigration/military standpoints from establishment, they prolly would of won, in my guess
 

BobD

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Yeah sure we can run the richest and most powerful nation on earth with a small government. That sounds realistic.
 

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If the GOP wants to earn tiny ounce of my respect the House needs to re up the violence against women act after failing to do so during the last Congress.

Is violence against women currently legal? If so, then the House certainly needs to address this oversight immediately.
 
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