Next year, Our year?

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I hear a lot of talk about how next year is gonna be a bad one. I mean yeah we have a brutal schedule(as always), but I see no reason why we can't be serious national title contenders next year. We have talent coming( jimmy clausen, armando allen etc.) and some talent that we haven't tapped yet or have yet to see(sam young, james aldridge, and konrad reuland) does anyone agree with me, or am I just crazy?
 

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Not a bad year, just a tougher one. Yes, the team will be talented. But there's a reason senior laden teams perform well.
 

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I expect it to be tougher, but i also expect to be playing sometime in January like the Cotton, Gator, etc
 
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I think with the way the schedule is laid out, we will have some early growing pains. But by the seasons end we will be a much more experienced and competitive team.
 
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Expect 8-4, look for 9-3, know that 10-2 can happen.
 
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One does wonder if maybe we'll take more chances next year, with less to lose.

Robert E. Lee said, "I was too weak to defend, so I attacked." Maybe that will be our approach on both sides of the ball.
 
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The scedule is as follows, here's what I think
S 01 GEORGIA TECH - W (tough win)
S 08 @ Penn State - W (morelli will have more experience but we should win)
S 15 @ Michigan - push (this game will determine where our team is at)
S 22 MICHIGAN ST. - W (stanton is gone, I think? we better win)
S 29 @ Purdue - push (strongly toward W)
O 06 @ UCLA - push (it's gonna be tough)
O 13 BOSTON COLLEGE - W (I hate BC another must win)
O 20 SOUTHERN CAL - L ( I hate to put up an L but, u have to respect USC)
N 03 NAVY - W
N 10 AIR FORCE - W
N 17 DUKE - W
N 24 @ Stanford - W
 

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2007 Notre Dame Football Schedule

Sept. 1 GEORGIA TECH
Sept. 8 at Penn State
Sept. 15 at Michigan
Sept. 22 MICHIGAN STATE
Sept. 29 at Purdue
Oct. 6 at UCLA
Oct. 13 BOSTON COLLEGE
Oct. 20 USC
Nov. 3 NAVY
Nov. 10 AIR FORCE
Nov. 17 DUKE
Nov. 24 at Stanford

Guaranteed Wins
Navy
Air Force
Duke
Stanford
Close Games
Georgia Tech
Penn State
Michigan State
Purdue
UCLA
Boston College
Tough Games
Michigan
USC

So I think were guaranteed 4 wins and 2 losses. After that we have 6 games that should be pretty evenly matched. Our record will be anywhere inbetween 7-5 and 10-2. If we go 10-2, we should be in a BCS bowl for the 3rd straight year.
 
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I think we have a good chance to steal that game in ann arbor (this year we just fell asleep or something) I think we could end up 11-1, we have usc at home so who knows what could happen. I think we will win at least 9. If we go 11-1 we could have a shot at the national title. I don't see any team going undefeated.
 
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We don't even know who the starting QB is going to be yet. I think that will play a large part in what kind of record we'll have next year. Regardless of how much potential Clausen has if he gets the nod he is going to have growing pains as a starting D1 Freshmen QB. I think the last 2 years we were a bit spoiled with how consistant Brady Quinn really was. He doesn't make many mistakes and a freshmen QB is bound to make quite a few regardless of how much talent he has.

I think we would have a better season if Frazer/Jones/Sharpley got the starting nod, however I think Notre Dame football has a brighter future in 2008/2009/2010 with Clausen getting the nod off the get go.
 
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I agre with you reneg, I personally would like to see frazer because he seems to be in the same mold as a brady quinn. He's got the size at 6'5" 225 lbs, and he's got a rocket arm from what i hear.
 

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I see trouble with UCLA. UCLA is going to be one of the most experienced teams next year, don't be surprised if they compete for the pac-10 yet alone the national title! I think our toughest games will be them and Michigan. USC will loose Jarrett and Smith, as good as Turner and Hazelton are they wont make up for them two, so i can see a Win at home against them.

prediction 10-3 loss to mich, UCLA, and Penn State and win against Oklahoma in the Cotton Bowl.
 

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I think we would have a better season if Frazer/Jones/Sharpley got the starting nod, however I think Notre Dame football has a brighter future in 2008/2009/2010 with Clausen getting the nod off the get go.

This is where I start to disagree...JC is probably better than Sharpley right now...DJ is going to be his only real competition...Zach is great to have on board as a 2nd or 3rd stringer
 

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Good gracious, you people have lots of confidence ... I suppose its refreshing.

But that schedule strikes me as wicked hard.
 

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Wow. It's amazing how optimistic everybody is. We are brining back like 5 or 6 starters from this year, and people only see a one game drop off from this year? I think 6-6 is about what we are looking at.

This is where I am going to get flamed for not being a blind homer, but we have to keep in mind how different this team is going to look next year. The team will begin to improve late in the season, and the schedule will ease up. This is a realistic point of view:

Sept. 1 GEORGIA TECH - close, push
Sept. 8 at Penn State - more than likely a loss
Sept. 15 at Michigan - loss
Sept. 22 MICHIGAN STATE - win
Sept. 29 at Purdue - push, could easily be a loss (they hung with us this year, and it was a down year for them and an up year for us)
Oct. 6 at UCLA - loss (UCLA's defense will be just as strong next year as this year)
Oct. 13 BOSTON COLLEGE - push, by this time the team should really be coming togehter (unfortunately, BC will have a much more experienced team than us next year, remember, BC's record is nearly identical to ours)
Oct. 20 USC - loss (no explanation needed)
Nov. 3 NAVY - win, but next year will probably be Navy's best opportunity ever to beat us
Nov. 10 AIR FORCE - close, with an all new defense for us next year, but probably a win
Nov. 17 DUKE - Win
Nov. 24 at Stanford - Win

There it is. Flame away.
 

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6-6 just aint good enough, it aint good enough for you, and it definetly aint good enough for me - Charlie Weis
 

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Sept. 1 GEORGIA TECH - Push
Sept. 8 at Penn State - Loss
Sept. 15 at Michigan - Loss
Sept. 22 MICHIGAN STATE - Push
Sept. 29 at Purdue - Push
Oct. 6 at UCLA - Push
Oct. 13 BOSTON COLLEGE - Push
Oct. 20 USC - Loss
Nov. 3 NAVY - Win
Nov. 10 AIR FORCE - Win
Nov. 17 DUKE - Win
Nov. 24 at Stanford - Win

I think those are the probable locks, so that puts ND at at least 4-3. I also think ND will probably win three to four of the push games and possibly all five wich would put ND's final record somewhere between 9-3 or 7-5.
 
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Next years team I think will be much the same as Coach Weis' first, most will see an average team and maybe not even rank them in the top 25. They should win the first game against a rebuilding GT and an then beat an above average Penn State. ND will go into Ann Arbor against an over confident Michigan team and come away with a win. The two toughest games should be UCLA and USC with both having top defenses and will be tough to beat.

The offense in my opinion will not miss a beat, if anything they maybe better especially if some of the young RB's with homerun speed contribute early. The defense will make great strides and will solidfy as the year goes on, as most of the young guys starting will be playing positions for which they were recruited. All in all the Irish should have a 9-10 win season, while positioning themselves as a preseason favorite for the following year.
 
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Turnovers will determine it all

Turnovers will determine it all

What we've seen from ND this year in the TO department will only be more glaring next year in that when/if we get TO happy we will get hammered. Without a true game changer like a R. Bush or V. Young that can just take over a game or a stifling defense, we are going to have to be very very efficient to acheive anything more than 8-4.

And while we will definitely be throwing out a lot of new starters and they will certainly experience significant growing pains, please remember that a.) those kids are very good and b.) our opponents are also having to fill key spots on their rosters.

GT - breaking in a new QB (arguably good news for GT fans) and losing all-world man-beast Calvin Johnson along with a few key guys on D.

PSU - front seven is going to take a significant hit to graduation and the draft. and levi brown on OL is done as well. going to be very fun to watch this game.

UM - very scary game, but if we avoid the complete self-immolation routine that this year's team performed it'll be respectable if not within the boundaries of a serendipitous event. they are going to replace many of their playmakers on D (woodley, perhaps branch, biggs, hall)

MSU - their offense is GONE. a number of linemen return but the playmakers are GONE. this def wont be the high scoring affair it's been the past couple years.

PU - should be interesting point in the season. the team has had 4 real games under their belts. will the experience have outpaced exhaustion at this point?

UCLA - defense defense defense. they'll be stout and ready to play 60 minutes. still, and i'm digressing a bit here, despite all claims that they "handled" us this year, ND had sig more first downs, pass yds, rush yds, and 3 more points. all UCLA did was come up with big plays (sacks) that stalled drives just enough to prevent the score from being 34-17. UCLA merely outplayed expectations, not ND. ND "handled" UCLA, but couldnt find the follow through on drives. the bastards were held to less than a yard per carry!!! WTF!
anywho, tough game....again, turnovers....how will they fall?

BC - Dear God, I have no idea. they look to be very experienced, but who the hell knows here. dont even want to speculate on this one.

USC - a scary team, but are they losing coordination? and how will thier grad/draft attrition really pan out? key non-seniors (l. jackson, s. baker, f. davis) along with certain departures (smith, jarrett, sartz, lua, k. williams) will leave this team wanting at several positions.

the rest should not be an issue. say what you will about the experience of navy, determination of air force they should not lose these games under any circumstances.

To revisit the TO situation, we should win roughly eight of these games unless the TO fairy visits the team in unimaginable ways against the teams we should beat.

UM and USC look like likely losses.
BC, UCLA, PSU, look like toss-ups
PU, GT we should definitely beat unless disaster strikes
the rest are likely Ws.

Assuming we only take one of the toss-ups we have our 8 wins and a semblance of respectability, a full season of development for the youngsters, and a team ready to begin kicking ass and taking names in 2008.
 
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We will have better talent on this team next year than we have had in the last 5-7 years combined fellas. If you only expect 6-6 you're out of your freakin mind. Im not going to predict anything because it is way way too early. Yes the talent will be young, but young and very athletic. We will see. i think some of you will be pleasantly suprised. I know Im ready for the new team to take over. A new start with some of the old flare with guys like Walker, Carlson, and Laws.
 

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Next years team I think will be much the same as Coach Weis' first, most will see an average team and maybe not even rank them in the top 25. They should win the first game against a rebuilding GT and an then beat an above average Penn State. ND will go into Ann Arbor against an over confident Michigan team and come away with a win. The two toughest games should be UCLA and USC with both having top defenses and will be tough to beat.

The offense in my opinion will not miss a beat, if anything they maybe better especially if some of the young RB's with homerun speed contribute early. The defense will make great strides and will solidfy as the year goes on, as most of the young guys starting will be playing positions for which they were recruited. All in all the Irish should have a 9-10 win season, while positioning themselves as a preseason favorite for the following year.

Texas--you rock! What ever pill you're taking--give me one because I want to believe everything you're saying. It's hard to think of this team without Brady Quinn...so I can't even imagine the offense next year. I can't imagine how we're going to get any production...but I have a few months to work on getting some faith ready for the 2007 regular season. Good job Texas.
 
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I think 8 wins would be great. Let's remember that Brady Quinn wasn't BRADY QUINN until CW got there and worked with him for 1 summer. Jeff Samardija was just a guy with a weird name. He took a bunch of guys that went 6-6 and turned them into a 9-3 team. Next year he will have better talent. Yes, they are young, but probably no worse off then the sophmores and Juniors CW inherited. I don't think they are a BCS team, but could be 8-9 win team with an upset win.
 

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slow down boys... having talent in offensive skill positions is useless if you have a sieve for an offensive line. if our new men step up and give some good protection, then we can go down the 8-9 win path. keep in mind that, while highly touted, these guys are still unproven past outmatched and undersized high school players (many of which don't even go on to D1). it all starts with protection and opening lanes.
 

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All this has got me thinking... what is ND's depth chart this year? Can someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks.
 

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Next years team I think will be much the same as Coach Weis' first, most will see an average team and maybe not even rank them in the top 25. They should win the first game against a rebuilding GT and an then beat an above average Penn State. ND will go into Ann Arbor against an over confident Michigan team and come away with a win. The two toughest games should be UCLA and USC with both having top defenses and will be tough to beat.

The offense in my opinion will not miss a beat, if anything they maybe better especially if some of the young RB's with homerun speed contribute early. The defense will make great strides and will solidfy as the year goes on, as most of the young guys starting will be playing positions for which they were recruited. All in all the Irish should have a 9-10 win season, while positioning themselves as a preseason favorite for the following year.

Despite having, correct me if I am wrong, exactly 1 year of total experience, I gotta think the O-Line has a chance of being REALLY (better than this year) good even early next year.

Also, it will be a great advantage coming into the season under- as opposed to over-rated.
 
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What's with all the "push"es in this thread?
Some of you believe that ND's 2007 record will be 3(wins)-4(losses)-5(ties) ??
A push is a tie. There are no ties in college football.
Or am I starting to sound like Clotho aka RWE ? :wink:
 

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Next years team I think will be much the same as Coach Weis' first, most will see an average team and maybe not even rank them in the top 25. They should win the first game against a rebuilding GT and an then beat an above average Penn State. ND will go into Ann Arbor against an over confident Michigan team and come away with a win. The two toughest games should be UCLA and USC with both having top defenses and will be tough to beat.

The offense in my opinion will not miss a beat, if anything they maybe better especially if some of the young RB's with homerun speed contribute early. The defense will make great strides and will solidfy as the year goes on, as most of the young guys starting will be playing positions for which they were recruited. All in all the Irish should have a 9-10 win season, while positioning themselves as a preseason favorite for the following year.


Agreed. I'm thinking 9 or 10 wins also. (and I'm from Texas too!)
 
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