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Love how the jets think they won something. They played great and deserved to win. You haven't won anything yet. Its been along time so I'll explain it to ya the game in Dallas means something. good luck you will need it.
 
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What galls me is that after this game, Brady hasn't been hit hard, at all. No "choker" label, not even a negative word of his play.

He got hit and got happy feet. He was given a lot of time in the pocket, and couldn't get it done until the very end of the game. Now, if this had been Peyton, he would be getting crucified right now.
 
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WabashFalcon said:
What galls me is that after this game, Brady hasn't been hit hard, at all. No "choker" label, not even a negative word of his play.

He got hit and got happy feet. He was given a lot of time in the pocket, and couldn't get it done until the very end of the game. Now, if this had been Peyton, he would be getting crucified right now.
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Ya poor Manning that guy never gets any credit or attention. Alot people said this year the colts even made the playoffs because of Manning. He is one greatest to ever play game . If you don't think Brady is that's your opinion. Its wrong but to each is there own.
 
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PatsandBostonfan1975 said:
Ya poor Manning that guy never gets any credit or attention. Alot people said this year the colts even made the playoffs because of Manning. He is one greatest to ever play game . If you don't think Brady is that's your opinion. Its wrong but to each is there own.
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The question is if Brady is one of the greatest then how come they still won I think 11 games when he was injured unless Cassel is the second coming of Steve Young?
 
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DomerInHappyValley said:
The question is if Brady is one of the greatest then how come they still won I think 11 games when he was injured unless Cassel is the second coming of Steve Young?
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The year prior Brady went undefeated with same team and rewrote the nfl record books. His back up won 5 fewer games and didn't make playoffs. If Manning gets hurt and colts make playoffs and get past round one does that take away from manning ? No . I get you don't like Patriots and think manning is way better. If you don't think Brady is elite quarterback then i'm sorry you don't know football. Ask Manning if Brady is elite? Those two have more respect for each other as any quarterbacks in the league.
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PatsandBostonfan1975 said:
The year prior Brady went undefeated with same team and rewrote the nfl record books. His back up won 5 fewer games and didn't make playoffs. If Manning gets hurt and colts make playoffs and get past round one does that take away from manning ? No . I get you don't like Patriots and think manning is way better. If you don't think Brady is elite quarterback then i'm sorry you don't know football. Ask Manning if Brady is elite? Those two have more respect for each other as any quarterbacks in the league.
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Actually I think Brady is an elite QB. Though he didn't exactly go undefeated the year prior.
It's a question I have asked every Patriots fan I know. Of which I know quite a lot (oddly enough they weren't Pats fans until 2001 but that's neither here nor there) it still has yet to be answered If Brady is as great as claimed why did the patriots win 11 games when he was out for the season and going from 16 to 11 wins is just falling back to earth when his back up was in unless Cassel is the second coming of Steve Young.
Or could it be that Brady hit the perfect team at the perfect time for his skill set.
 
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DomerInHappyValley said:
Actually I think Brady is an elite QB. Though he didn't exactly go undefeated the year prior.
It's a question I have asked every Patriots fan I know. Of which I know quite a lot (oddly enough they weren't Pats fans until 2001 but that's neither here nor there) it still has yet to be answered If Brady is as great as claimed why did the patriots win 11 games when he was out for the season and going from 16 to 11 wins is just falling back to earth when his back up was in unless Cassel is the second coming of Steve Young.
Or could it be that Brady hit the perfect team at the perfect time for his skill set.
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I answered your question I believe cassel had a drop off 5 wins with same team they did go 16-0 regular season with 50 tds with Brady.(I am aware we lost superbowl that year). If you watched the pats that year Mcdaniel did great job with cassel who a great year this year. If Brady is a system quarterback why doesn't everybody go in that system? I mean everybody peyton had no recievers this year I heard all year. Look at brady's recievers before moss got there. If your arguement is his backup played well that year he did . Cassel also had good year somewhere else this year too. Cassel put up over 3,000 yards, 27 touchdowns and only 5 interceptions. A question though ?The comment of friend who didn't watch pats till 2001 . You don't think new england is fairweather fan's do you? You really don't know New england if you think that.
 
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I answered your question I believe cassel had a drop off 5 wins with same team they did go 16-0 regular season with 50 tds with Brady.(I am aware we lost superbowl that year). If you watched the pats that year Mcdaniel did great job with cassel who a great year this year. If Brady is a system quarterback why doesn't everybody go in that system? I mean everybody peyton had no recievers this year I heard all year. Look at brady's recievers before moss got there. If your arguement is his backup played well that year he did . Cassel also had good year somewhere else this year too. Cassel put up over 3,000 yards, 27 touchdowns and only 5 interceptions. A question though ?The comment of friend who didn't watch pats till 2001 . You don't think new england is fairweather fan's do you? You really don't know New england if you think that.
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And you argument is that Brady had 1 monster year in the same year they went undefeated in the regular season and that his backup was only worth minus 5 wins which is the same team the year Brady came back that they won 12.
Again he is what he is an accurate QB who keeps his cool that made it into the right situation.
 
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And you argument is that Brady had 1 monster year in the same year they went undefeated in the regular season and that his backup was only worth minus 5 wins which is the same team the year Brady came back that they won 12.
Again he is what he is an accurate QB who keeps his cool that made it into the right situation.
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So your telling me Brady isn't a first round hall of famer bacause Matt Cassel has a good year while he was hurt. I got ya
 
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PatsandBostonfan1975 said:
So your telling me Brady isn't a first round hall of famer bacause Matt Cassel has a good year while he was hurt. I got ya
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Actually he is a first ballot HOF'er because of his number's but that still doesn't change the fact that he got picked to go into the perfect situation with his skill set and what he excels at.
Hell call him a system QB that's what he is. Montana was a system QB for most of his career does that change how good he was?
 
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