[NCAAF] vBook: Houston vs Florida St

[NDgradstudent]

How bad is the ACC? (Louisville over TA&M without their QBs isn't that impressive - imo) From what I've seen this bowl season, it doesn't bode well for Clemson or Notre Dame. Our win over NAVY does look pretty good now.

We should have half-joined the SEC.

 

[NDVirginia19]

That said, since Redfield is trending toward the "bust" category, I'd like to see a rundown of our success recruiting California over the last 10 years. My intuition is that it's really bad; to the point where we might want to deemphasize the state significantly.

2006:
Konrad Reuland 4 star
Will Yeatman 3 star

2007:
Jimmy Clausen 5 star
Taylor Dever 3 star

2008:
Dayne Christ 5 star
Anthony Mcdonald 4 star

2009:
Cierre Wood 4 star
Shaquelle Evans 4 star

2010:
Cameron Robertson 3 star
Justin Utupo 3 star

2011:
George Atkinson III 4 star
Josh Atkinson 3 star
Troy Niklas 4 star
(sort of) Joe Schmidt: 3 Star

2012: NA

2013:
Max Redfield 5 star

2014:
Tyler Luatua 4 star

2015:
Equanamious St. Brown 4 star
CJ Sanders 4 Star



So yeah, a lot of duds in there, but I think the 2015 class is gonna have the best production out of California recruits ND has had in awhile

 

[NDinTEXAS]

I know the other Texas schools probably don't want it, but the Big12 would be smart to add Houston asap.

Bring it back baby!!!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

2006:
Konrad Reuland 4 star
Will Yeatman 3 star

Both transferred. Total bust.

2007:
Jimmy Clausen 5 star
Taylor Dever 3 star

Good year. Both multiple year starters.

2008:
Dayne Christ 5 star
Anthony Mcdonald 4 star

You forgot Fauria and Nate Montana. Total bust.

2009:
Cierre Wood 4 star
Shaquelle Evans 4 star

One multi-year starter, and one transfer. 50% bust.

2010:
Cameron Robertson 3 star
Justin Utupo 3 star

Roberson took a medical, and Utupo was a career backup. Total bust.

2011:
George Atkinson III 4 star
Josh Atkinson 3 star
Troy Niklas 4 star
(sort of) Joe Schmidt: 3 Star

Josh was a bust, but the other three were very productive. Good year.

2012: NA

Shepard and Greenberry. So painful.

2013:
Max Redfield 5 star

Vanderdoes as well. Trending hard toward bust.

2014:
Tyler Luatua 4 star

Looking good so far.

2015:
Equanamious St. Brown 4 star
CJ Sanders 4 Star

Looking even better.

So let's bracket 2014 and 2015 as TBD. In the 8 years preceeding those two classes, we "signed"* 20 players total. Of those, 6 turned into productive multi-year starters, and the rest busted to various degrees. Is a 30% success rate acceptable given the resources we pour into recruiting California? Hard to say without a good idea of how much we're spending there and how those resources might otherwise be utilized. But that seems pretty bad to me.

*Counting Shepard and Greenberry here, since they were the centerpieces of the 2012 class. Shepard made it onto campus, and I think Greenberry flipped to Houston because he learned that he wouldn't qualify academically for ND. Can't provide it, though.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Right now for 2016 we are looking at a potential career Backup QB (but who's to say after this year's QB shuffle) and a S/OLB prospect that has a lot of potential but also a relatively low floor. If we can pull Kelly then there's now way at least one of these guys doesn't end up being a contributor for us in the near future

 

[dwshade]

As a side note I see Jimbo Fisher was granted a divorce from his wife. Separated for 5 months the settlement got done fast once his lawyers threatened to depose ex-Gator player Taylor Jacobs. Apparently the wife had an affair with him.

 

[Irish#1]

Since the next blue-blood vacancy will likely be UCLA, I hope he stays at Houston for a while. Mora did a huge amount of damage to us on the recruiting trail, so I'm not eager to see the Bruins immediately reload with a better coach.

That said, since Redfield is trending toward the "bust" category, I'd like to see a rundown of our success recruiting California over the last 10 years. My intuition is that it's really bad; to the point where we might want to deemphasize the state significantly.

It's one of the better jobs in D1, but I wouldn't call UCLA a blueblood. They have some history of success, but I wouldn't place them in the same category as ND, USC, OSO, OU, Bama, scUM and Texas.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

It's one of the better jobs in D1, but I wouldn't call UCLA a blueblood. They have some history of success, but I wouldn't place them in the same category as ND, USC, OSO, OU, Bama, scUM and Texas.

Regardless, UCLA was a non-factor on the recruiting trail for us until Mora was hired. I'd like to see them return to their usual mediocrity. It's hard enough competing against USC for Cali kids.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Regardless, UCLA was a non-factor on the recruiting trail for us until Mora was hired. I'd like to see them return to their usual mediocrity. It's hard enough competing against USC for Cali kids.

I still think UCLA has an easier job in Cali than Houston competing against Texas, aTm, Baylor, TCU, and even Texas Tech for kids in Texas

 

[Irish#1]

Since the next blue-blood vacancy will likely be UCLA, I hope he stays at Houston for a while. Mora did a huge amount of damage to us on the recruiting trail, so I'm not eager to see the Bruins immediately reload with a better coach.

That said, since Redfield is trending toward the "bust" category, I'd like to see a rundown of our success recruiting California over the last 10 years. My intuition is that it's really bad; to the point where we might want to deemphasize the state significantly.

Regardless, UCLA was a non-factor on the recruiting trail for us until Mora was hired. I'd like to see them return to their usual mediocrity. It's hard enough competing against USC for Cali kids.

No disagreement there.

 

[NDinTEXAS]

I still think UCLA has an easier job in Cali than Houston competing against Texas, aTm, Baylor, TCU, and even Texas Tech for kids in Texas

You forget to mention Oklahoma! Texas commute school.