Most underated ND player

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This is a tough one becuase both my picks aren't great at something key for their position.. my two nominations are Carlson and Duke.

The winner is:

ABI, kidding...

Duke. although not a good thing; leading the team in tackles is awesome for a saftey. And has mades some pretty big plays.
 

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I would have to go with Carlson. He was supposed to be primarily a blocking TE, but he has displayed great hands. He has caught every catchable ball thrown his way. His catches on the run over the middle have been amazing.
 

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I know this'll sound funny w/ how well they ran the ball on Saturday w/o him, but Asaph gets my vote.

As good as they ran yesterday, anybody should be able to run on Purdue at home.
 
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John Carlson, more receiving yards then Samardzija, and Walker with fewer receptions and compared to Fasano through the first five games last year, Carlson has on less reception with 110 more yards.

John Carlson (22 rec. – 359 yards)
Samardzija (27 rec. – 319 yards)
Walker (32 rec. – 219 yards)

Fasano (23 rec. – 249 yards)

Honorable Mention - Geoffrey Price
 
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Geoff Price......case closed

How is he the most underrated when he's the #1 punter in the NCAA's Div 1?

He's been touted by CW in several press conferences. Just today CW said he was the most consistent player on the team and the field position he has been providing is a potent weapon aiding the defense by pinning opponents deep in their territory.

Price was a highly touted punter as a recruit. He initially verballed to Texas but then decommitted for ND. He was erratic previously. But after communicating with Hunter Smith altered his routine slightly and improved his performance significantly.

He is likely the most improved player but underrated, no. He was expected to perform at a high level from the beginning.
 

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How is he the most underrated when he's the #1 punter in the NCAA's Div 1?

He's been touted by CW in several press conferences. Just today CW said he was the most consistent player on the team and the field position he has been providing is a potent weapon aiding the defense by pinning opponents deep in their territory.

Price was a highly touted punter as a recruit. He initially verballed to Texas but then decommitted for ND. He was erratic previously. But after communicating with Hunter Smith altered his routine slightly and improved his performance significantly.

He is likely the most improved player but underrated, no. He was expected to perform at a high level from the beginning.

Fair points...

However, from an underrated standpoint...I think he's the most underrated because as of the first 5 games he's been the best player overall.
 

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I posted this on IrishEnvy on 8/28/06[/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Irish Insider: Three simple, shorter steps work for Price

Senior worked on consistency, power over summer preparing to take lead role in crucial punting game

Ken Fowler

The Observer

Posted: 8/25/06

Geoff Price laid a towel on the ground, took three short steps back and became a better punter.

The concept was that simple, but the realization of his improvement goals was not - it took hours of work on Price's part to see his labor finally come to fruition.

Price needed to shorten his strides and kick the ball quicker after receiving the snap to increase his length, consistency and trajectory.

So he used a simple mechanism to implement the idea.

"I would put a towel on the ground and take three steps back like a kicker taking a field goal," Price said. "Then I had to get the ball off before I got [to the towel]."

Price's problem before this spring was that he had taken long steps throughout his punting career, and that routine became a "bad habit."

And for the past three seasons, Price's bad habit had the luxury of hiding behind the usually consistent punting of D.J. Fitzpatrick, who delivered all but one of Notre Dame's punts during the 2005-06 season. (Brady Quinn's 48-yard boot against Stanford was the lone kick Fitzpatrick did not attempt.)

But now the senior Price is front and center in the punting game.

The "bad habit" became a serious problem.

"There was a technical flaw that needed to get fixed," special teams coach Brian Polian said.

So Polian used a familiar face to help deliver Price the message that he had to change.

Polian contacted Hunter Smith, a former Notre Dame standout and now a Pro Bowl punter with the Indianapolis Colts. Because of NCAA rules, Smith cannot work directly with Price, but the two had several conversations on punting techniques.

"It's not that Hunter shared any great secret with him, that Hunter unlocked the key to any door," Polian said. "I think sometimes it's just very effective to hear it from another voice because I just become noise once in a while.… And to have somebody who was a Domer and does it in the NFL, that holds a lot of water."

Price took Smith's advice -which was much the same as Polian's, but from a fresh source - and worked throughout the spring and summer to improve. Price said it has taken countless repetitions but has paid off.

Special teams captain Travis Thomas thinks so.

"He's been averaging about forty-eight yards a punt during all of camp," Thomas said after Notre Dame's practice Tuesday. "The thing with Geoff is, when he's relaxed, he's much better."

Thomas said Price's confidence in his new delivery has allowed him to relax and kick better. One of his jobs as special teams captain, Thomas said, is to keep Price in the right state of mind so he can kick his best.

Price thinks he can stay in a comfortable zone.

One person who has tested that has been Irish head coach Charlie Weis.

"Him just standing back there talking to me while I'm trying to kick, that's worse than anything," Price said. "[With] Georgia Tech coming up, I'm not scared of 80,000 people [or] national television. I'm scared of Weis two yards behind me just chirping in my ear, saying all the things he can, trying to get me to mess up."

Price said Weis told him the team's nighttime scrimmage in Notre Dame Stadium Aug. 14 was his "one shot" to prove what he's got.

A day after Price said that, Weis claimed the punter was exaggerating.

Either way, Price delivered that night. He estimated an average of 56 yards a kick.

Price isn't satisfied with that, though. He said he is willing to sacrifice a few yards if he can heighten his ball flight to avoid out-kicking his coverage.

He said he'll continue to work on trajectory throughout practices leading up to the Georgia Tech game and beyond.

But his teammates and coaches say he's a different punter than he was a year ago.

"To see the way his improvement has continued has been very encouraging," Polian said.

And Polian knows where the improvement came from.

Just three short steps.
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Michael Richardson. He's come a very long way from 2004.

Geoff Price is getting my Heisman vote.
 

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Michael Richardson. He's come a very long way from 2004.

Geoff Price is getting my Heisman vote.

I agree on both of yours Jigga....Richardson has made some great plays this year and is probably our most "steady" CB. Price is just booming the ball everytime he touches it and this past week he got to show off some of his prime acting skills.
 

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Richardson leads the team in passes broken up and Weis says that people at the next level are asking about him quite a bit.
 

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I agree on both of yours Jigga....Richardson has made some great plays this year and is probably our most "steady" CB. Price is just booming the ball everytime he touches it and this past week he got to show off some of his prime acting skills.

Richardson leads the team in passes broken up and Weis says that people at the next level are asking about him quite a bit.

Think about those 2 statements for a minute...I mean seriously, think about that....Who the HELL saw that coming 2 years ago????? And I throw myself into this equation, I wanted to run the kid out of town along w/ every other Irish fan I talked to about the defense.

I know none of us are in love w/ the defense right now, but if Richardson somehow were to get drafted and have any sort of an NFL career, Minter MUST be doing something right....
 
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Richardson leads the team in passes broken up and Weis says that people at the next level are asking about him quite a bit.

It's funny you say that this morning.
I re-watched the MSU game last night and Mike was flying all over the field.
He definitely delivers some of the best hits out there.
Stanton should consider himself lucky. Mike almost cut him in half.
 

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Think about those 2 statements for a minute...I mean seriously, think about that....Who the HELL saw that coming 2 years ago????? And I throw myself into this equation, I wanted to run the kid out of town along w/ every other Irish fan I talked to about the defense.

I know none of us are in love w/ the defense right now, but if Richardson somehow were to get drafted and have any sort of an NFL career, Minter MUST be doing something right....

Minter or Bill Lewis?

After seeing him get beaten time after time again in 2004, Michael Richardson was not one of my favorite members of the Irish. Last year I saw him make great strides. This year he has made more strides.

Seeing his play this year translated from his improvement from last year, Richardson is going to get drafted at this pace. Hands down. He's tough, plays physical, tackles and hits well and is covering people.

Let's hope these other young guys who are struggling now get to the point Richardson is at under Coach Lewis.
 

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Richardson has become the forgotten man on the defense from the fan's viewpoint. He has grown. Kudos to him and to Lewis.

And hope of things to come.
 

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usually when nobody talks about a CB that is a good thing, that means he is shutting down his WR and no balls are getting thrown his way because of great coverage.
 

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Ray Herring. I had barely heard of him before last week. I think he's going to be a stud. He hits harder than Zib.
 

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maybe this thread should have been most surpriseing player
 

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Giving my vote to Landri

he is doubled alot in nic and dime coverages - which is why ABI should be getting to the QB
 

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Richardson is much improved. That guy is physical and can hit some people. Terrail intercepted the last ball against MSU, but it was Richardson strectching out to make the play. You don't see him getting beat that often. As far as open-field tackling..he's one of the best on the team. I know Stanton was begging his coach not to call anymore option plays after he almost lost his lower body.
 

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I think you need to give the nod to John Sullivan. He's been the pillar of strength in an offensive line that has been very inconsistent at every other position. Sullivan is an animal and is very aggressive, tough. NASTY, blocks until the whistle, doesn't miss assignments and usually doesn't take stupid penalties. I believe he is one of the unsung leaders on our offense. He gets my vote!
 
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