Kelly with Golson Vs Rees question

[Coach Ó Ceallaigh]

Thanks for the input & observations guys re: the ref/playclock issue.

Here's to being 2-0, now let's stomp MSU at their place -- Speaking of playclocks, I'll never forget the damn '10 game in East Lansing.

 

[cody1smith]

It is i think its called the iron cross. happens in lots of games.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

Hey guys, long time reader first time poster. I love this board, by far the best that I frequent.

Just wanted to chime in on something Kelly said in the post-game because I haven't seen it mentioned yet: Did anybody notice the refs standing over the ball prior to plays when ND was on offense in the second half? Kelly commented on it, because apparently it was allowing Purdue time to make additional substitutions, and this supposedly is why it was taking soooo long to get plays in. Martin couldn't call a play until he could see what he was up against personel-wise, and by the time he could see what Purdue was in the plan clock was winding down. Kelly said he complained to the officials about it in-game, and that he would be talking to somebody about it this week (Big Ten?).

Anybody else hear this? Can anybody else elaborate on it? I was at the game and did not notice it......thanks!

I mentioned it in the live chat and I was screaming about it the entire game. Big Ten refs are the WORST. I have no idea why we continue to allow B10 referees into our stadium when the visiting team is from that conference. It doesn't make any sense. We have been getting hosed against the Michigan schools for years (especially scUM). No idea why we would ever agree to this when we could get impartial Big East officials instead.

It doesn't make any sense that the play clock is running down near 15 seconds and the offense can't snap the ball because the referee is standing over it. I have never seen that before in football. Just watching the Sunday night game, Manning snapped the ball quickly as the Steelers were making subs. They didn't hit the deep pass but were unlucky not to get a 12-man call on the defense. The referees didn't allow us this option. Befuddling.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Couple of things on the Purdue game and the cards...

1. I was on the field for the game saturday...it doesnt allow you to see the play which kinda sucks, but you do catch a lot of the game details.

a. In reference to the Kelly comment about the refs..They were spotting the ball longer than normal...this allowed Purdue to run in/out subs but the thing is the play clock still rolls...so then once purdue sub'd then the play would go in...they would get set...then there wouldnt be time to make checks, reads, change the play. The people that were complaining about the plays/play calling/ lack of organization just dont understand the finer points of play calling. Kelly can call any play he wants, but based on D personnel you can get to a better play. We arent at the point where we can 100% dictate the D reguardless of our own personnel/playcalling.

b. Golson is going to be just fine. He is making and doing things that Rees/Hendrix cant do. He is starting to go through progressions, but he is still def fine tuning his pocket presence and just the finer points of getting the ball snapped. I mean he threw for 290 and no ints in his second start, i really dont think you can ask more from him at this stage.

2. The cards. The cards were used as a thing to help tommy read the defense. Its a totally different situation than Golson is in. Rees didnt have an experienced line to this extent, and hadnt been groomed to start at that point. Golson has had a year and a half in the program, and essentially been groomed to start for the last 9 months. Rees was in the program for 10 months and wasnt ready to be in a backup situation much less a starting role.

The offense ND is running is a no huddle to help control the substitutions from the defense. It presses the tempo a little bit by not allowing frequent subs from the D, but its by no means designed to change the tempo of the game. They do use cards right now for Golson, they are not the same cards as Rees, but they have variations of words on them. Obviously, I have no idea what they are for, but they are more than likely formations/protections/etc with them being held up presnap. ND just ran into a damn good team yesterday and they made the adjustments/plays to win.

3. On the comment about not being prepared for Purdue's DC. I think that with Kellys comments that they didnt have film to base his basic principles from. DC's are always going to have a base scheme on their objectives. Diaco is gonna sit back, have timely blitzes, and force you to dink and dunk and remain disciplined in playcalling if you are an OC as well as force the QB to do the same. Michigans DC is gonna blitz you from every angle and force the OC out of what he wants to do, and put pressure on the QB to make quick decisions. Then you have the middle ground of Monte Kiffin, where he isnt going to be patient like Diaco, and he's not going to take chances like Mattison. He is going to play mind games and show different looks, and roll coverages. Kelly and co just didnt have a feel for what Purdues DC was going to do.....then obviously he rolls out a 4-3 look but has 3cbs and a safety over the top so its going to be cover 1 or cover 3 and pack the hell out of the box.

This is where we miss Cierre and I think some of ND Nation came back down to reality that Theo/GA3 arent every down or complete RBs. Theo played well, but he is a scat back/ 3rd down back...get him in space but with a packed box its going to be hard to do. GA3 right now is the same way, and obviously is a little more banged up than we thought coming out of Navy. Cierre is gonna be able to get up inbetween the tackles, as well as outside. and they will be able to run a little bit more zone read with his execellent vision, and ability to get in the holes.


Getting a good ground game going is only going to further Golsons progress. He is going to be able to get easier reads and ND is going to be able to get even more creative with their packages. Cierre can be in the backfield, Theo flexed out and able to be motioned into the backfield/jet sweeps/more speed on the field. All of which just helps Golson.

 

[Patulski]

Rees didn't look like too much of a cool customer when he was panicking at the line of scrimmage on that 3rd down play trying to call a timeout and letting the play clock expire and just heaved it up in the direction of John Goodman.

I think Brian Kelly looks at that play completely differently than you do. Kelly see Rees being pressured- and without even hesitating- throwing to a spot where he knows Goodman will be. This is exactly the kind of QB awareness Kelly wants.

 

[Seanthornton]

I remember Quinn getting pummled his freshman year alot. Golson shows poise and promise. He's gonna take his lumps. I think the offence looked a little lathargic at times Sat. Say what you want about Tommy. He put us in a position to win.
Im a bit nervous about Mich St. Very optomistic though. We have 2 good QB's. a better Defence. Optomistic !!






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