Jim Boeheim Sounds Off

[Mr. McGibblets]

Pretty Good Stuff. I agree with Grumpy Jim and this article. Its the reason I picked Rick Jackson in my original prediction thread. His production and the fact that he is the best Big man in the conference. I even thought Gary McGhee from Pitt should have gotten a nod at Honorable Mention at least.


Jim Boeheim To Other Big East Coaches: WTF?
by Sean Keeley on Mar 7, 2011 12:20 PM EST

Rick Jackson got snubbed from the Big East All-Conference 1st-Team. The hope was that no one would tell Jim Boeheim, cause we all know how cranky he gets. Considering what a true screw-job that was, you just knew he was going to go off on one. So I thought we were all clear that we weren't going to tell Jim. We need his focus elsewhere.

SO WHO TOLD JIM???

''I guess coaches shouldn’t be voting for things like this,’’ Boeheim said Sunday. "It doesn’t make sense. You have six guards on one team? He’s been the best big man in the conference all year. If you ask coaches ‘Who’s the most important player on your team?’ They’ll all say the big guy. But Rick’s not first team. It’s crazy.’'

''It’s unbelievable,’’ Boeheim said. "He leads the league in rebounds, blocked shots and field goal percentage. They voted for scorers. Maybe we should just take the top six scorers.''

Boeheim also had some thoughts about Scoop, who was named to the Honorable Mention list.

''Scoop had a better year than that, too,’’ Boeheim said. "He should be second team; third at worst.''

And if you thought Jimmy B is pissed off, wait til you hear what Buddy P has to say:

''That Jackson, the senior forward/center for the 25-6 Syracuse University Orange, didn’t make the first-team Big East Conference All-League Team is, of course, indefensible. Because it was the conference’s head coaches who made this determination, this conclusion must be drawn: The credibility that they’d certainly declare their positions warrant has been seriously diminished.''

''...those idiot coaches -- and, in this matter, idiot coaches they are -- chose to anoint a first team comprised of, laughably, six guards. (Note to coaches: Try winning in the real world with a six-guard squad.)''

Man, if only there was an event coming up where all of the Big East coaches will be in one place so that Rick Jackson could show them first-hand how they snubbed him. If only...

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

In case you wanted to see the whole list...

In case you wanted to see the whole list...

Here is the complete list of teams from BigEast.org

ALL-BIG EAST FIRST TEAM
Kemba Walker, Connecticut, G, Jr., 6-1, 172, Bronx, N.Y.
Austin Freeman, Georgetown, G, Sr., 6-3.5, 227, Mitchellville, Md.
*Ben Hansbrough, Notre Dame, G, Sr., 6-3, 206, Poplar Bluff, Mo.
Ashton Gibbs, Pittsburgh, G, Jr., 6-2, 190, Scotch Plains, N.J.
Marshon Brooks, Providence, G-F, Sr., 6-5, 200, Stone Mountain, Ga.
Dwight Hardy, St. John’s, G, Sr., 6-2, 195, Bronx, N.Y.

ALL-BIG EAST SECOND TEAM
Preston Knowles, Louisville, G, 6-1, 190, Winchester, Ky.
Darius Johnson-Odom, Marquette, G, Jr., 6-2, 215, Raleigh, N.C.
Brad Wanamaker, Pittsburgh, G, Sr., 6-4, 210, Philadelphia, Pa.
Rick Jackson, Syracuse, F, Sr., 6-9, 240, Philadelphia, Pa.
Corey Fisher, Villanova, G, Sr., 6-1, 200, Bronx, N.Y.

ALL-BIG EAST THIRD TEAM
Chris Wright, Georgetown, G, Sr., 6-1, 208, Washington, D.C.
Tim Abromaitis, Notre Dame, F, Sr., 6-8, 235, Unionville, Ct.
Jeremy Hazell, Seton Hall, G, Sr., 6-5, 188, Bronx, N.Y.
Kris Joseph, Syracuse, F, Jr., 6-7, 207, Montreal, Quebec
Corey Stokes, Villanova, G, Sr., 6-5, 220, Bayonne, N.J.

BIG EAST HONORABLE MENTION
Peyton Siva, Louisville, G, So., 5-11, 180, Seattle, Wash.
Jimmy Butler, Marquette, F, Sr., 6-7, 220, Tomball, Texas
Scoop Jardine, Syracuse, G, So., 6-2, 190, Philadelphia, Pa.
Kevin Jones, West Virginia, F, Jr., 6-8, 255, Mount Vernon, N.Y.

BIG EAST ALL-ROOKIE TEAM
Sean Kilpatrick, Cincinnati, G, Fr., 6-4, 215, White Plains, N.Y.
Jeremy Lamb, Connecticut, G-F, 6-5, 185, Norcross, Ga.
Shabazz Napier, Connecticut, G, Fr., 6-0, 170, Randolph, Mass.
*Cleveland Melvin, DePaul, F, Fr., 6-8, 210, Baltimore, Md.
Brandon Young, DePaul, G, Fr., 6-3, 175, Washington, D.C.
Gilvydas Biruta, Rutgers, F, Fr., 6-8, 230, Jonava, Lithuania

 

[BGIF]

There's 26 names on those lists and only 7 are 6-7 or taller.

 

[military_irish]

I guess the way I see it is that an "All" team doesn't need to consist of an actual team that takes the court. It is compiled of the individuals who are the best in the conference at the time. Those players were the best this year in my opinion.

Stats should not be the definitive answer.

 

[mgriff]

I guess the way I see it is that an "All" team doesn't need to consist of an actual team that takes the court. It is compiled of the individuals who are the best in the conference at the time. Those players were the best this year in my opinion.

Stats should not be the definitive answer.

I think you're focusing on the wrong word, the word you should be focusing on is team. Those six guards don't make a very functional team. Those are six great players, and there are certainly arguments for their inclusion, but it's a team game, and team all-star list, not the best six players at one position.

 

[BGIF]

I think you're focusing on the wrong word, the word you should be focusing on is team. Those six guards don't make a very functional team. Those are six great players, and there are certainly arguments for their inclusion, but it's a team game, and team all-star list, not the best six players at one position.

Then Boeheim needs to convince his peers to vote by position not just the best players.

Do they vote for a Center? (Do enough teams use a Center for the position to qualify?)

Are 3 forwards allowed?

What do you do with a swingman?

Is Boeheim miffed with the type of selection or just that his guy didn't make the team? (After Jackson, Abromaitis is the next biggest man on those lists).


Who do you drop from the group below to add Jackson and Abro?

ALL-BIG EAST FIRST TEAM
Kemba Walker, Connecticut, G, Jr., 6-1, 172, Bronx, N.Y.
Austin Freeman, Georgetown, G, Sr., 6-3.5, 227, Mitchellville, Md.
*Ben Hansbrough, Notre Dame, G, Sr., 6-3, 206, Poplar Bluff, Mo.
Ashton Gibbs, Pittsburgh, G, Jr., 6-2, 190, Scotch Plains, N.J.
Marshon Brooks, Providence, G-F, Sr., 6-5, 200, Stone Mountain, Ga.
Dwight Hardy, St. John’s, G, Sr., 6-2, 195, Bronx, N.Y.