Hiben leaving?

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I hope its not true that Hiben is leaving the team to pursue Architecture. He's had a year in Weis' system and could've been ready to make an impact with Fasano leaving.

Won't be a huge blow if it happens though, we're solid at TE with Carlson and Freeman, not to mention youngsters Rueland, and Yeatman..

I wonder if he'll end up at Purdue, he was committed to them before he committed to ND. They have a great architecture program if I'm not mistaken

Hopefully its just another internet rumor
 

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Doesn't ND have a pretty good architecture program? I've heard, though, that students must spend a year in Europe as part of the program. perhaps there's no such requirement at other schools?
 
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BigIrish said:
Doesn't ND have a pretty good architecture program? I've heard, though, that students must spend a year in Europe as part of the program. perhaps there's no such requirement at other schools?

The mandatory requirement to go to Europe was established in 1969. Syracuse, Cornell, Penn State, Rhode Island School of Design, and Washington-among others-all have reputable study abroad programs, though I am not sure of their requirements. I believe Syracuse's program is also mandatory.
 
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Architecture is a 5-year program. At ND all archies spend their 3rd year studying abroad in Rome. From what I observed, the amount of work they do makes engineering majors look like slackers. And for the record, calling an engineering major a slacker is a gross mischaracterization.

That's a pretty difficult decision to make, but he probably made the right choice in the long run. You gotta respect a kid who has his priorities straight.
 

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February 16, 2006
Hiben Leaves Team, Not School
by LOU SOMOGYI

A report in Thursday’s South Bend Tribune confirmed recent rumors that Notre Dame freshman tight end Joey Hiben has left the football team to concentrate on his architect major. Hiben will remain enrolled at the school, but he will no longer be on a football scholarship.

“What it really comes down to is architecture is more important than football to me,” Hiben told the Tribune’s Bob Wieneke.

During Hiben’s recruitment in 2004, he committed in October to Purdue over Stanford and Notre Dame. However, the Waconia, Minn., native switched to Notre Dame a month later because Purdue lacked an architecture program, something Hiben was unaware of when he gave his verbal to the Boilermakers.

Hiben appeared in 7 games last year

Architecture, a five-year field of study, is maybe the most demanding major at Notre Dame, and seldom does a varsity athlete enroll in it. Running back Ricky Watters did in 1987, but switched his major to design soon thereafter. McDonald’s All-American basketball recruit Barry Spencer also chose architecture as his major in 1980, but he was twice declared academically ineligible to compete with the team before earning his degree in the field in 1985. He currently is a project manager in Bloomfield Hills. Mich.

Starting quarterback Rusty Lisch and backup tight end Kevin Hart (son of 1949 Heisman Trophy winner Leon Hart) were two of the more prominent architect majors at Notre Dame in the late 1970s. In an interview with Blue & Gold Illustrated a couple of years ago, Lisch recounted the difficulty of balancing football with that major.

“I think when they saw these goofy athletes getting into the architecture program, there was a reaction of, ‘Well, they’re a novelty act,’ ” Lisch said. “But the more they tried to run me off, the more I just gritted my teeth and said, ‘No, I’m not leaving.’ It was almost like a bet that I couldn’t make it.

“I’ll be the first to admit I wasn’t the most accomplished drawer or designer like Kevin and others, but I stuck with it, trudged through and made it.”

Hiben was the No. 4 tight end on last year’s roster, behind Anthony Fasano, John Carlson and Marcus Freeman. He appeared in seven games and saw 24:37 of action, several minutes short of the 30 minutes required to receive a monogram. His departure leaves only 14 freshman on the spring roster, and 12 sophomores.

With Fasano bypassing his fifth season to make himself eligible for the NFL Draft, Carlson is the heir apparent and has two years of eligibility remaining. It has not been confirmed by the football office whether Freeman will return for a fifth season in 2006.

Earlier this month, the Irish signed Konrad Reuland, considered in recruiting circles the nation’s No. 1 tight end prospect.
 

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Good luck to Joey. It's not often a kid can be true to himself and know if he tried to do both, he couldn't do it at 100%. Good kid.

Oh, and does this open up a scholie immediately?
 

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Oh, and does this open up a scholie immediately?

Not really, in spite of the large class coming in, I still don't think we were up against the 85 limit, as evidenced by Charlie saying he intends to take 25 guys next year.

This spot won't really be used for a couple years. At that point, I would have rather had a seasoned and talented TE, but we will have them anyway. Good luck to the young man.
 

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Hiben displayed a great deal of character by doing this. Football is not life. Most guys don't get to the NFL and if they do the shelf life isn't very long.

Disappointed he didn't stick with it, though. Yet another casualty in terms of numbers.

The 2007 recruiting class is going to be monumental once Ty's first class starts to graduate in a year.
 
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Alot of guys would just stay on the football team and half ass it so they could keep their schollies. I really respect his decision.
 

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Alot of guys would just stay on the football team and half ass it so they could keep their schollies. I really respect his decision.


And considering ND's tution that really is a class move.
 
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Very mature "life" decision. Good luck to Hiben.

Considering this from a football standpoint only, I don't want to say that Hiben leaving is a good thing, but let's imagine the glass is half full. Reuland will now get additional playing time behind Carlson (and probably Freeman) that he might not have gotten with Hiben on the team. With all the offensive turnover we're going to have in '07, the more experience a young guy like Reuland can get the better.
 
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