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Boston College coach Tom O'Brien has accepted the vacant coaching position at North Carolina State, according to broadcast reports.

O'Brien became the winningest coach in Boston College history (75-45) this season as he led the Eagles to a 9-3 record this season and a berth in the Meineke Car Care Bowl.

On Wednesday, the Boston Globe reported that O'Brien denied any interest in open positions at Arizona State and Stanford.

"I'm not a candidate for any job," O'Brien said in a statement. "My focus is on preparing Boston College to take on Navy on Dec. 30."
 
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obrien is a good coach. i hope he does well at NC State, and i'm glad he's leaving BC.

With Bernie Kosar throwing his hat in the ring for the Miami job maybe Dougie will want to follow suit with his alma mater.
 
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I heard that Chuck Amato is available, poetic justice?
 
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BC fans are thrilled about this. Not sure why, TOB has pretty much accomplished everything humanly possible at BC. He's a good coach, not the best recruiter, but he does a good job of coaching his talent up.

Not sure what BC fans want, a great coach isn't going to take that job because the money won't be that good and there isn't much talent in that area of the country. Plus if they're lucky enough to find a diamond in the rough coach, he'll leave in a heartbeat when other teams come calling.

TOB was about the best thing BC will ever have
 

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I'm surprised. This came out of nowhere.

I wonder if BC plans on hiring somebody big, or if they are going to promote from within. As much as I could care less about BC, TOB was a really good coach.
 
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Well, there have been many-a-rumblings from BC fans. Pre-O'Brien leaving. They always claim (and I know this because my buddy went there) BC plays to their opponents potential. Perfect example is this season. The games they lost they shouldnt have. The ones they won, they shouldnt have.

This is a facebook group made to pay homage :eek:) enjoy.

Is it just me, or can BC start a season 10-0 and still finish 9-3? This is a team that, in 3 hours, went from playing in the Fiesta Bowl in miserable Arizona to playing in the Continental Tire Bowl in beautiful North Carolina. What are the odds that BC will one day play a Bowl Game before December 6th? Who knows? I do know this: we are on a huge bowl win streak, and with a little luck, we'll keep losing 3 games a year and keep that streak alive. Here's to mediocrity, and to the Boston College Eagles
 

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This is most peculiar. O'Brien leaves a program with which he has had real success in their two years in the ACC (and many years of Big East success prior to that) for a conference foe with a history of underachieving. Tells me BC isn't paying ACC coaching wages and shouldn't expect to hire an established coach of note! They lost a darned good coach in O'Brien.
 
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Dude, BC alum, boosters, the whole nine, hate him.

I was telling my buddy 'O'Brien got fired', as a joke. But, think about this... for a coach to leave his position, it would more often than not be to advance his career. He's going to NC St. What kind of upgrade is that? That's like managing a McDonalds and leaving for Burger King. This wreaks of "leave now and we wont hurt you" - bit. I think they were going to drop the hammer, and do it soon.
 

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I see this as a lateral move, not a step up...he shoulda gone to Bama or something.
 
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Bama wouldnt take him. Bama wants a recruiter. Someone to reflect the schools interests. Something like ND wanted.

That would be worse than the situation theyre alread in.
 

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Bama wouldnt take him. Bama wants a recruiter. Someone to reflect the schools interests. Something like ND wanted.

That would be worse than the situation theyre alread in.

Bama couldn't give a damn about reflecting the schools interests. They're concerned with one thing - winnning. At whatever the price. As long as they don't get caught.

When Mike Dubose was caught having an affair with his secretary, the moral majority screamed he should be fired as a poor role model. One of the University Trustees was quoted in the papers, "The only thing we care about is "W's. That's what he'll be evaluated on. And "W" doesn't stand for women."
 

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BC fans are thrilled about this. Not sure why, TOB has pretty much accomplished everything humanly possible at BC. He's a good coach, not the best recruiter, but he does a good job of coaching his talent up.

Not sure what BC fans want, a great coach isn't going to take that job because the money won't be that good and there isn't much talent in that area of the country. Plus if they're lucky enough to find a diamond in the rough coach, he'll leave in a heartbeat when other teams come calling.

TOB was about the best thing BC will ever have

After Frank Leahy and probably Tom Coughlin, Tom O'Brien was the best they ever had. His winning percentage was slightly better than Coughlin's and Coughlin didn't have to play the ACC schedule.

O'Brien is only one of 3 BC coaches to have coached 10 seasons. He coached more games than any other coach there and has the most wins. He also has the second most losses which is what BC fans are focused on.

Coughlin raised expectation levels but he used BC only as a stepping stone. O'Brien rebuilt the program and made BC a Top 25 program. He opened with two 4-7 seasons after replacing Henning then averaged almost 8.5 wins a season. A .684 winning percentage. About a game and half more wins/season then BC's historic average.

Historically BC's winning percentage is only about a hunderd of a point better than UNC's (I(didn't know that either). And it's O'Brien that moved them ahead of UNC.

BC fans are foolish considering their stadium, recruiting base, facilities, coaching salaries, etc to think they are moved in with the big dog programs. O'Brien was actually doing more with less.

Coughlin beat ND in '93 to nip an NC but he was 1-1 against the Irish. O'Brien was 5-3 with 4 straight wins. His departure makes ND's rebuilding year in '07 just a little bit easier. And makes the ND schedules in '08 - '10 also a little bit easier.

Meanwhile BC will slide back to 7-5, 6-6, 5-7 seasons. From the surprise of the realigned ACC they will now become the 2nd tier team they were forecast to become.
 
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I read in the paper today that he was only making $750,000 thats peanuts for a guy like him. If BC wants to play with the big boys they're gonna have to pay a lot more then that. While NC St seems like a lateral move he'll make probably double and he will get some better talent there(won't have to deal with the academic restrictions as much). I wasn't aware TOB had the longest winning bowl streak in the country at 6 or 7, granted they usually don't play anyone good in a bowl.
 

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This isn't a lateral move. He'll be making more money. He'll go to a large state school with a larger budget. And geographically, he'll have a much better recruiting base. BC has had to reach out for talent, including many trips to the Catholic schools in Southwest Ohio-a resource that OBrien can take with him to NC St, as he is an alumnus of St. Xavier in Cincinnati.

I'd much rather recruit North Carolina than New England.
 
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Living in the Boston area my entire early life, I have to say that this is probably a good thing for BC.

O'Brien is a tremendous person, great motivator, and just a decent human being. I don't "hate" the BC program as much as most Irish fans, because I had a buddy who plays for them. I've kept an eye on the BC program, simply because it's in my back yard.

O'Brien restored a program that was disastrous under Henning, but the mere fact was he was entirely too conservative. The college game today is about offense, but O'Brien's teams never seemed to want to "out-talent" the teams they should be beating the pants off of.

Sure, it's tough to build a program at BC -- there's not much home-grown talent, the academic standards are very tough, and the program doesn't have the tradition or name recognition that ND does. But look at some of O'Brien's losses in the last few years, and they're pretty bad -- last year against UNC (a win in that game put them in the ACC Championship), this year against NC State and Miami, and a few years back against Syracuse (their last year in the Big East, when a loss cost them the Fiesta Bowl).

The fact is, his team's would play above their talent level against superior competition, and below their talent level against inferior competition. And his conservatism simply killed all chances of athletes out-of-state saying "hey, I could see myself succeeding at BC."

The right choice would be to hire Whipple, the quarterbacks coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He won a Division 1-AA championship with UMass, and could be the offensive innovator they need. The Globe is reporting he's the logical choice, but that BC might investigate Bob Davie!

This could either hurt the BC program very much, or lead to a shift in strategy that could see BC staying near the top of the ACC. The ACC will again by wide open next year, so we won't know how well the hire will do until all's said and done.
 
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A couple of things about the BC situation....O'Brien was the 11th highest paid coach (@ BC)in the ACC after North Carolina's hiring of Davis, you know he will get comparable to Davis money at NC State. Boston College could not draw attendance no matter the record or opponent, face it Boston is a pro sports town (Red Sox, Patriots). Raliegh is a college town amid some of the best rivalries in college football, seriously when you have 3 major schools within a half an hour of each other what else would you expect? (and remember Wake is not that far up the road as well). He brings discipline to a team that needs it, with a little discipline NC State would have been a major player in an otherwise weak league. Just my thoughts....
 

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O'Brien became the winningest coach in Boston College history (75-45) this season as he led the Eagles to a 9-3 record this season and a berth in the Meineke Car Care Bowl.

does anyone else find this quote funny? mentioning "winningest coach in history" in the same sentence as Meineke Car Care Bowl?


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See the bolded part:

Coach set to depart
BC's O'Brien will take N.C. State job
By Mark Blaudschun, Globe Staff | December 7, 2006

In a whirlwind courtship, which officially did not begin until yesterday morning and could be completed today, Boston College football coach Tom O'Brien is expected to accept an offer to become the next coach at North Carolina State.

Barring any snags, the announcement could come as soon as today, but might be delayed until tomorrow as final details are worked out.

According to several sources in the Atlantic Coast Conference, N.C. State athletic director Lee Fowler had received permission to talk to O'Brien, and while no official offer was made yesterday, it may be only a formality of getting approval from the school's Board of Trustees.

Reached at home last night, OBrien reiterated that he had received no official offer and would only say, "Any announcement has to come out of North Carolina."

O'Brien's public interest in openings was muted as he prepared his team for its Meineke Car Care Bowl appearance against Navy Dec. 30. "I'm not a candidate for any job," said O'Brien in a statement Tuesday when published reports named him as a candidate at Arizona State and Stanford.

O'Brien may have been playing semantics. He was not seeking jobs, but didn't deny that he would listen. Until yesterday, no official contact had been made. The possibility of O'Brien leaving BC has reached the decision-making stage only twice in his 10 seasons. In 2002, Georgia Tech made official contact and interviewed O'Brien before naming Chan Gailey coach. In 2004, O'Brien was a finalist at Washington, before withdrawing his name. (The Huskies hired Tyrone Willingham.)

The N.C. State situation is intriguing because it would be a move within the conference, which is rare.

The Wolfpack went into search mode after firing Chuck Amato following a 3-9 season, one of the wins being a last-minute victory over BC. N.C. State has state-of-the-art facilities, an admissions policy that would allow a wider range of student-athletes, and can pay its coach considerably more than the $733,626 O'Brien is making, according to a list of salaries published in USA Today citing IRS records, although BC officials say that figure is inaccurate. The Raleigh campus is also a four-hour drive from O'Brien's summer home in the Charleston, S.C., area.

O'Brien's success at BC has been steady but not spectacular. The Eagles are 9-3 this season, have not had a losing season since 1998, and have reached eight consecutive bowl games (winning the last six), including the Meineke Car Care Bowl against Navy, whose coach, Paul Johnson, also had been contacted by N.C. State.

But O'Brien has not gotten the Eagles to the conference championship and Bowl Championship Series bowl level. In 2004, the Eagles had a chance to win the Big East title and earn a Fiesta Bowl bid, but lost their last regular-season game to Syracuse. And in each of the last two seasons, the Eagles had a good shot to reach the ACC title game but fell just short.

If O'Brien leaves, the next step will be finding his successor, a task that falls to athletic director Gene DeFilippo, who will get the opportunity to make his first major hire at The Heights.

One name that immediately surfaced is former Notre Dame coach Bob Davie, whom DeFilippo coached as a player at Youngstown State. Davie would make a splashy first hire for DeFilippo, but it would likely come at a price far higher than the salary O'Brien reportedly earned.

DeFilippo could go to the NFL, which was how the Eagles found Tom Coughlin in 1990, then an assistant with the Giants under Bill Parcells. One potential candidate is Steelers quarterbacks coach Mark Whipple, the former University of Massachusetts coach who led the Minutemen to a Division 1-AA national title.

Harvard coach Tim Murphy, who previously had coached at Maine and Cincinnati, could emerge as a potential prospect as would several in-house candidates: associate head coach Jerry Petercuskie, defensive coordinator Frank Spaziani, and offensive coordinator Dana Bible.

Reached in Dallas last night where he was recruiting, Petercuskie was asked if he would be interested in succeeding his boss. "For me, first off, the loyalty that I have to Tom is No. 1," said Petercuskie. "I haven't even spoken to him about any of this, so before I answer any question like this, I'd first have to communicate with him and I haven't done that yet."

Michael Vega of the Globe staff contributed to this report; Mark Blaudschun can be reached at blaudschun@globe.com.



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Bama couldn't give a damn about reflecting the schools interests. They're concerned with one thing - winnning. At whatever the price. As long as they don't get caught.

When Mike Dubose was caught having an affair with his secretary, the moral majority screamed he should be fired as a poor role model. One of the University Trustees was quoted in the papers, "The only thing we care about is "W's. That's what he'll be evaluated on. And "W" doesn't stand for women."

Nah, I think you miss my point. I think they want a guy that likes Bama, and can win. Bama likes people that gung ho bout their region, too. O'Brien simply can not recruit in that area.
 
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I'm loving this whole scenerio. BC fans are even more defensive than ND fans. They dish it out but CAN NOT take it. Just busting their chops and saying TOB leaving for NC State is embarrassing for them gets them riled up beyond almost anything you'll see on an ND board.

I guess TOB got tired of losing to NC State, so he joined them.
 

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This isn't a lateral move. He'll be making more money. He'll go to a large state school with a larger budget. And geographically, he'll have a much better recruiting base. BC has had to reach out for talent, including many trips to the Catholic schools in Southwest Ohio-a resource that OBrien can take with him to NC St, as he is an alumnus of St. Xavier in Cincinnati.

I'd much rather recruit North Carolina than New England.

I sit right next to a Florida St grad here at work, he's into FSU as much as I'm into ND. He has a lot of connections in Florida and his buddy is a coach at javarius james high school. He said he has been to NC state for a couple away game and this is by no means a lateral move.

Money sure, for him and his assistants. But the facilities are supposedly great and looser academic requirements are both huge upgrades in this situation. The recruiting base will be better too like scoops said.

I'm just happy O'brien isn't going to be coaching against ND next year, so it was clearly the right move IMO.
 

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wow... if BC picks up Boob Davie, we could have a GREAT time chatting up the BC game this year. finally, Bob's useless "I don't agree with Charlie's playcall" bashing would come back and rip him one while Notre Dame's freshman run rampant over the Eagles.
 

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Can we start a petition that BC hires Davie? I can't even comprehend all of the joy I would get out of that over the next couple years.
 

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Can we start a petition that BC hires Davie? I can't even comprehend all of the joy I would get out of that over the next couple years.
Petition? Hell, I think we should start up a collection to help pay for it.
 

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Yeah, I don't see this as a lateral move either. More money, better facilities, and a far better recruiting base. Ntm, BC's got tougher academic restrictions than most schools that are really trying to compete at the D-1 level. Something tells me he won't have that problem at NC State...

And honestly, I don't buy that BC played "down to their competition" as some BC fans would have you believe. I just think BC was never really this great team. When you're not a great team, wins against schools like Wake, Miami, and even NC State aren't automatic. Top tier teams always win those games, but second and third tier teams lose a couple every season.

The only thing that sucks about this is now the BC fans will have an excuse for why they lost when they play ND next year...
 
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