Foreign Policy

[Irish2155]

Now let me show you what hanging 4 NAIA World Series banners look like. Still interested in that trailer? Our Ft Wayne buddies might know a thing or 6 about these.

 

[Bluto]

So why did the IAEA find that they were enriching over 60%?

Well, according to Wikipedia you can use that for small reactors to power naval vessels, research and for breeder reactors which “can be fueled with more-commonly available isotopes of uraniumand thorium, such as uranium-238 and thorium-232, as opposed to the rare uranium-235 which is used in conventional reactors.”

If Iran is in fact developing nuclear weapons they apparently really suck at it considering they’ve been supposedly working on it for almost forty years now.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Well, according to Wikipedia you can use that for small reactors to power naval vessels, research and for breeder reactors which “can be fueled with more-commonly available isotopes of uraniumand thorium, such as uranium-238 and thorium-232, as opposed to the rare uranium-235 which is used in conventional reactors.”

If Iran is in fact developing nuclear weapons they apparently really suck at it considering they’ve been supposedly working on it for almost forty years now.

60% enrichment refers to the % of U-235 that is in the sample. Breeder reactors do not require HEU. Iran also does not have any large naval nuclear program that would necessitate the uranium enrichment to that degree, and even then you can use LEU in naval nuclear propulsion, as the French do.

If the Iranians were just trying to peacefully enrich uranium for these non-weapon purposes, then why have they consistently stonewalled international non nuclear proliferation inspection teams and made inspection timelines such a sticking point in previous negotiations? What did they have to hide if it was all benevolent?

 

[LifelongFan]

We should bomb Israel too because that all applies about their nuclear program.

 

[LifelongFan]

Iran is not our biggest adversary. They are Israel's and that is who controls your precious president.

 

[NDVirginia19]

We should bomb Israel too because that all applies about their nuclear program.

One is our ally and one is not. International relations are not fair

 

[LifelongFan]

Yeah what a great ally. We get nothing except attacked and hated in the Middle East. Israel is useless and we would be better off if they were wiped off the face of the earth. 9/11 happened because we needed Soda Streams and blood diamonds. Great trade.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Yeah what a great ally. We get nothing except attacked and hated in the Middle East. Israel is useless and we would be better off if they were wiped off the face of the earth. 9/11 happened because we needed Soda Streams and blood diamonds. Great trade.

Might want to check your URL buddy, this isn’t Stormfromt

 

[LifelongFan]

It also doesn't help that Epstein and Maxwell were Israel intelligence and obviously had videos of Trump having sex with children on his favorite plane.

 

[LifelongFan]

Might want to check your URL buddy, this isn’t Stormfromt

There is one Nazi country left and it is your precious white supremacist Israel.

 

[Fbolt]

We have Polk High dreams going on here:

 

[Irish#1]

It also doesn't help that Epstein and Maxwell were Israel intelligence and obviously had videos of Trump having sex with children on his favorite plane.

In summary, there is no definitive proof that Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell were Israeli spies, but these allegations have been made and continue to circulate.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Operation Praying Mantis II loading

 

[drayer54]

Who else is signing up their kids to die for Israel? Very Catholic, very America First.

Whose kid died? This wasn't the botched evacuation of Kabul where soldiers needlessly died. How many needed to die from an Iranian proxy with a nuke?

 

[Bluto]

60% enrichment refers to the % of U-235 that is in the sample. Breeder reactors do not require HEU. Iran also does not have any large naval nuclear program that would necessitate the uranium enrichment to that degree, and even then you can use LEU in naval nuclear propulsion, as the French do.

If the Iranians were just trying to peacefully enrich uranium for these non-weapon purposes, then why have they consistently stonewalled international non nuclear proliferation inspection teams and made inspection timelines such a sticking point in previous negotiations? What did they have to hide if it was all benevolent?

Beats me.

The sticking point this time around (putting aside the US was negotiating in bad faith) was enrichment, period.

Again, the US intelligence assessment presented in March clearly stated that Iran was not developing nuclear weapons.

If I had to make an assumption about the current situation I would lean towards the Israelis making some shit up to convince Trump that Iran was going to blow up DC or something equally absurd. Probably photoshopped the Ayatollah with I Love Nukes tattooed on his knuckles.

 

[Bluto]

Whose kid died? This wasn't the botched evacuation of Kabul where soldiers needlessly died. How many needed to die from an Iranian proxy with a nuke?

0.

A nuke that doesn’t exist isn’t going to kill anyone.

If Iran and its “proxies” were as unhinged as say the groups funded by the Saudis have been they could have/probably would have detonated a dirty bomb against civilians a long time ago.

 

[TorontoGold]

0. A nuke that doesn’t exist isn’t going to kill anyone.

This is a wildly radical take but, the US should decommission their nukes. They are never going to use them, and the costs to maintain are insane. Trump isn’t the only TACO, don’t think any State/Gov is going to end the world no matter their mental state. It’s one thing to strap a bomb to your chest, and another to fire off a nuke.

 

[Bluto]

This is a wildly radical take but, the US should decommission their nukes. They are never going to use them, and the costs to maintain are insane. Trump isn’t the only TACO, don’t think any State/Gov is going to end the world no matter their mental state. It’s one thing to strap a bomb to your chest, and another to fire off a nuke.

That is interesting.

Unfortunately, I think nukes have acted as a clear deterrent for countries with large standing militaries from engaging in direct wars.

The irony in the recent events is that if Iran needed a clear reason to develop nukes as a deterrent this is probably it.

 

[Bluto]

I get information from the horse's mouth. I worked for a company for 10 years that was founded in Tel Aviv, I've got a lot of friends still. I know the games Hamas plays. My longest gaming buddy is an older Israeli gentlemen that lives in Canada now. Some of his best friends are Palestinians, he's got stories too. I won't tell you how he lost his eye, long after he was done with his service.

I see.

You get your info on how humane the IDF is from Israelis.

I’m not defending Hamas but saying the IDF follows any sort of international rules as they relate to war at this point is ridiculous.

So, have your friends weighed in on the recent massacres of civilians by the IDF at food distribution centers in Gaza?

How about how IDF snipers are targeting kids?

Or how IDF snipers intentionally maimed unarmed protesters by shooting them in their lower legs prior to October 7th? Based on the reporting I read they did this to 6,500 people.

How about intentionally targeting and killing journalists?

Or the common practice of detonating explosives in civilian areas?

Or ethnic cleansing in general?

 

[TorontoGold]

That is interesting.

Unfortunately, I think nukes have acted as a clear deterrent for countries with large standing militaries from engaging in direct wars.

The irony in the recent events is that if Iran needed a clear reason to develop nukes as a deterrent this is probably it.

I agree, I just think that defence systems are so modern now that some rogue state trying to nuke DC wouldn’t be able to do it. Any country capable of hitting DC would be smart enough to understand what that meant to the world ending. So, if no one is going to use them then why spend billions on maintaining them.

I fully expect the “US is retreating gracefully from the world stage” folks to take issue with this.

 

[Bluto]

I agree, I just think that defence systems are so modern now that some rogue state trying to nuke DC wouldn’t be able to do it. Any country capable of hitting DC would be smart enough to understand what that meant to the world ending. So, if no one is going to use them then why spend billions on maintaining them.

I fully expect the “US is retreating gracefully from the world stage” folks to take issue with this.

All good points for sure.

 

[LifelongFan]

Good time to be reminded that we have a 22 year old landscaper and grocery bagger running the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships. Nothing would help Trump more than a terrorist attack on US soil and he's doing his best to let it happen.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Good time to be reminded that we have a 22 year old landscaper and grocery bagger running the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships. Nothing would help Trump more than a terrorist attack on US soil and he's doing his best to let it happen.

You need to increase your medication.

 

[Bluto]

You need to increase your medication.

He’s not wrong.

College grad with no security experience now leading DHS terror prevention team

Thomas Fugate’s leadership of the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships has raised alarm bells

www.independent.co.uk

“The Intern in Charge”: Meet the 22-Year-Old Trump’s Team Picked to Lead Terrorism Prevention

One year out of college and with no apparent national security expertise, Thomas Fugate is the Department of Homeland Security official tasked with overseeing the government’s main hub for combating violent extremism.

www.propublica.org

 

[Fbolt]

Ok, that's scary. All the folks posting in this thread with experience from their desktops likely have more relevant work history than that jamoke.

Although, I will say that DHS is only relevant due to the rounding up of criminals/illegals. National defense of the homeland falls to the legit IC and FBI.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Beats me.

The only reason you would ever enrich to 60% in a deeply hardened target in the mountains surrounded by air defense systems while simultaneously attempting to stiff arm international inspection teams is to weaponize your stockpile or hold the ability to quickly weaponize it.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I see.

You’re comparing present day Iran to Nazi Germany.

That’s pretty rediculous.

Meanwhile in Gaza, Israel is engaged in committing a genocide and ethnic cleansing against a population that includes Christians.

Ridiculous? Are you that blind to history? Iran 2025 has more similarities than differences with Nazi Germany, the most obvious being that both entities want/ wanted Jews exterminated.

That's before you get to all the other things like freedom of speech, state run media, one party rule, etc.

 

[Bluto]

Ridiculous? Are you that blind to history? Iran 2025 has more similarities than differences with Nazi Germany, the most obvious being that both entities want/ wanted Jews exterminated.

That's before you get to all the other things like freedom of speech, state run media, one party rule, etc.

You are conflating the state of Israel with being Jewish. Those are two different things.

Now, being a student of history I’m sure you’re aware of the fact that Jewish communities have existed in Iran since the biblical era.

Also from Wikipedia, at present “Iran's Jewish community is officially recognized as a religious minority group by the government, and, like the Zoroastrians and Christians, they are allocated one seat in the Iranian Parliament.”

From 2014

The Secret Jewish Visit in 1979 to the Ayatollah, Which Saved Iran’s Jews

It was with a murder that the most critical moment in the modern history of Iranian Jewry took shape. And in what followed, Tehran’s policy toward the local Jewish community, still precariously in effect, came into being. The day was May 9, 1979, nearly three months after the victory of the...

www.tabletmag.com

“…the Anti-Defamation League’s 2014 Global Index of anti-Semitism places Iran as the least anti-Semitic nation in the Middle East and North Africa region.”

If the Iranians are really trying to “exterminate” Jews as you claim, they are doing a terrible job.

 

[Bluto]

The only reason you would ever enrich to 60% in a deeply hardened target in the mountains surrounded by air defense systems while simultaneously attempting to stiff arm international inspection teams is to weaponize your stockpile or hold the ability to quickly weaponize it.

Oh, so you know that for certain?

Here is what we know for certain.

The US entered into an agreement with Iran to address the concerns about monitoring that you are stating, Trump foolishly in my opinion scrapped that because….reasons, the US intelligence assessment from three months ago clearly stated that Iran was not developing nuclear weapons, the current admin lied about negotiating with Iran and then bombed them for….reasons.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Oh, so you know that for certain?

Here is what we know for certain.

The US entered into an agreement with Iran to address the concerns about monitoring that you are stating, Trump foolishly in my opinion scrapped that because….reasons, the US intelligence assessment from three months ago clearly stated that Iran was not developing nuclear weapons, the current admin lied about negotiating with Iran and then bombed them for….reasons.

I deal with nuclear engineering, so yes I know about the purposes and uses of enriched uranium