Fauria Set To Transfer

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Joseph Fauria is going to transfer after all. Here's the (free) story from ISD:

Fauria To Transfer -

ResLife strikes again. I wonder what he did. He claims it wasn't big enough to be suspended; reslife thought otherwise. I bet at USC Pete Carroll would have jokingly thrown his dummy corpse off the side of a building and everyone would have laughed. In a way I hope he did something really bad so it doesn't make ND look so damn prude. Oh well, good look kid...
 

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After reading the article, I give him a lot of props by how he is handling the situation. I think he is showing a lot of maturity by not saying too much or bad mouthing anyone, but he is making a decision that is best for him. I think he is showing a lot about his character. I am sad to lose him, but I wish him all the best.
 

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It is sad to see him go and I wish him the best. Somebody needs to stand up to Res Life. I understand that ND has high standards but to be kicked out of school one would think that it had to be something bad. What did he have a girl in his room after hours? I don't get it. If anyone knows anything please share.

GL Joseph were ever you end up.
 

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It is sad to see him go and I wish him the best. Somebody needs to stand up to Res Life. I understand that ND has high standards but to be kicked out of school one would think that it had to be something bad. What did he have a girl in his room after hours? I don't get it. If anyone knows anything please share.

GL Joseph were ever you end up.

Some close to ND say he was repeat offender, whatever it was. Lots of conflicting reports and opinions, which is to be expected. No one will say what he did on the record. Some people hate ResLife and think they are WAY too strict (actually, a lot of students say that), and others think that while they might be strict it's the students that are the dumb ones to be getting in trouble.

Whatever, who really knows? Oh, and Fauria wasn't kicked out of school, he was suspended. Some kids take their punishments, deal with them and come back to school, showing true character, like Walls, Julius Jones, Gray, MacAlarney, etc. Fauria chose to transfer (not that he's less of a man); good luck to him...
 

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.... Some kids take their punishments, deal with them and come back to school, showing true character, like Walls, Julius Jones, Gray, MacAlarney, etc. Fauria chose to transfer (not that he's less of a man); good luck to him...

That is correct that some choose to come back but it seems like he was a bit too upset with the university to accept his punishment. I was listening to a local talk radio sports show and what they said is they wouldn't have even grounded their kid for what he did (what ever that is).

I do wish him the best of luck and hope that he has a great career where ever he goes.
 

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... I was listening to a local talk radio sports show and what they said is they wouldn't have even grounded their kid for what he did (what ever that is)...

Parenting advice a from a jock show ...
 

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This really sucks, I hate to hear this. Maybe he'll come to UCLA where i can bitch at him for leaving. Oh well, i wish him the best.
 

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Parenting advice a from a jock show ...

Kinda but it's not like listening to a talk show out of Chicago. The WSBT radio Sports beat (or something like that) is actually a pretty clean show. The person that actually said it is Eric Hansen who writes for the South Bend Tribune and NBC College Sports. I am sure we all parent differently but it still makes me think that what he did wasn't really that bad.
 

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I go to ND, and from a distance Fauria seemed to be one of the more popular, social kids in the '08 recruiting class. I hope what happened to him doesn't sour his buddies on life at ND
 

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After reading the article, I give him a lot of props by how he is handling the situation. I think he is showing a lot of maturity by not saying too much or bad mouthing anyone, but he is making a decision that is best for him. I think he is showing a lot about his character. I am sad to lose him, but I wish him all the best.

I actually think his actions are showing his LACK of character. When you're 12 years old, you react and make decisions when you're angry and in the heat of the moment. When you're an adult, you step back and accept the possibility that you were out of line and you look at the broader good (the integrity of Notre Dame and what it represents). From that perspective you can also see that one semester/year away is not going to be the end of the world (Jones, Walls, et al, as an example). To me, I see his actions as extremely selfish, short sighted and one he'll regret for the rest of his life.
 

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I agree...this is a lack of maturity. He admits that he got in trouble...OK, you screwed up...no big deal. Take your punishment and move on. It would have been forgotten quickly.

Instead he his "taking his ball and going home".

Good luck but he'll wind up playing for a 4th or 5th place team in the PAC-10...have fun.
 

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rules are rules, best of luck to him in his future
 

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Not sure what happened with this kid. Some sites are blasting ResLife, some blame him. We make fun of other schools when they let kids stay and play that have broken University rules or run into trouble with the law, but don't like it when we discipline our own, so that we uphold the ND standard. I agree with NDinLA, take the suspension, learn from it and move on. Just read the sad story of Bernie Kosar and how his life is upside down now. He almost quit Miami, but Shellenberger told him the guys that run home to mommy tend to be quitter their entire life. Not sure what will happen with Fauria, maybe he will change his mind, wish him the best. Society today has conditioned us not to deal with our problems or punishments, they would rather us walk away.
 

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The sad part of this story is the fact that ND was unable to correct his faults, whatever those were, before he got to that point of suspension as the remedy. Surely, there are enough smart people on campus to have prevented this situatiion from going as far as it did. I'm hoping Fauria will reconsider his decision to transfer, learn from his mistakes and go on to make ND proud of his decision.
 

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At this point it seems like he's gone, I wouldn't hold any hope that he might change his mind... that's a great point about the double standard, we want to look down at other universities for their "lax" discipline but then we complain when there are on-field consequences for our own program
 

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I am not sure if you are referring to me but I find it ridiculous that you think we are showing a double standard. I agree that if he raped, drank, smoked or did something serious to get in trouble then he should be punished. If he did anything that was of criminal offense, wouldn't it have been reported? I am not defending him for what he may have done. It would be different if ResLife handled each case with similar gloves. Instead they seem to want to make a statement with some students (Athletes and others) and others they just give them a slap on the hand.

You have to remember that MacAlarney actually wasn't going to return to ND. He was convinced to stay by his teammates and his coach. He got in trouble for marijuana. So did DJ and he wasn't suspended (rather he transferred after getting benched).
 

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I used to be a conduct rep for my dorm at Minnesota Duluth, and there are various things to get in trouble for. For example, the only time someone got in trouble in my dorm was because he came in extremely drunk and was waking up everyone in the dorm. Another guy came into my dorm and screamed "Who wants to have an orgy!". My roommate kicked his ass the following morning, but I let that slide.
 

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If he got suspended for that I'd be ashamed of ND. My guess is it had to be something more serious. I'm just trying to recall the McAlarney situation.

We all know ND does everything the right way and holds students to high standards...but damn this sounds petty. Read the article in the south bend tribune and it tears you apart. Kid loves ND. I'm disgusted. This kid was living his dream and had a bright future.
 

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I hope it was. I hope he mooned the Res Life office. Nothing wrong with showing your independence
 

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i heard a rumor of streaking. dunno if its true tho

That's the rumor.

I didn't go to ND, but my fiance graduated a couple years ago and she just laughed when I told her why Fauria MIGHT have been suspended for streaking. She says there's NO way he got kicked out for that. According to her, 2 dorms streak every semester before finals; one through the library and the other through La Fortune. If he got caught busted for that, then a lot more dudes would be getting suspended. Now if he did it by himself several times through the girls' dorms, then maybe. But knowing what I know now, I highly doubt that was what caused it..
 
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Is anyone really pissed off that ND looks so prude for suspending this kid and we have no idea what he did?
 

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Is anyone really pissed off that ND looks so prude for suspending this kid and we have no idea what he did?

I gather you're pissed off from that post, why?

Because ND has a code of conduct that holds students accoutable for their actions when they enroll and you think ND should emulate USC, Bama, and Miami?

Or because no one consulted you on a federally mandated privacy matter?

Fauria is free to release the details; the University is not. He can be silent, he can complain, and he can snipe with impunity. He can even come clean. If you feel the need to be pissed off at someone for keeping you in the dark, aim towards California.
 
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Is anyone really pissed off that ND looks so prude for suspending this kid and we have no idea what he did?

I don't think you can say that they look prudish, without knowing what happened. Picture this:

Fauria lives next to a Jewish kid, or a Muslim kid. Fauria is constantly harassing the guy about being Jewish/Muslim. He has had four meetings in the last 3 weeks, with sequential levels of the ResLife Chain of Command, about knocking it off. Each time, he shows some contrition in the meetings, and promises to stop picking on the kid. So, at each level, they decide to give him another chance. Finally, a few days after the 4th meeting, he is caught doing it again. This time, the ResLife people bring in a high muckety-muck in the Administration to handle it. This high muckety-muck meets with Fauria, who by now is getting tired of these meetings, and can't understand why people won't let him "joke around" with the guy. So Fauria cops an attitude at this meeting, emboldened by the lack of prior consequences for his actions. The high muckety-muck meets with the recalcitrant Fauria, then discusses the issue with his high muckety-muck peers. The decision is made to suspend Fauria for a semester, to try to reinforce to him that the matter is being taken seriously, and he better shape up. There would be little paper trail, since this was not a criminal matter, but it would be a sufficient reason (in my mind) to suspend the kid. The kid gets pissed off at being suspended, takes his ball, and goes home. Of course he "takes the high road" in the media. He isn't about to let it get out that he was harassing a student because of his religion. So he just keeps his mouth shut about it. A bunch of talk show radio guys, being the responsible defenders of journalistic integrity that THEY are, read on some internet message board the rumors that the incident that took place was something to do with streaking. They see an opportunity to increase their ratings, by breaking the story that a Notre Dame football player was kicked off of the team and thrown out of school, for streaking. So they run with it. But they don't want to reveal their highly placed, incredibly accurate internet message board source, so they just say "Well, if the rumors are true.........I wouldn't even have grounded my kid for what Fauria did."

This is obviously a hypothetical situation. But it is one possible illustration of how this could be a very understandable, very practical move on the part of the University.

I'll wait until the facts come out (they always do, in these cases, even if it is years later), and then I will decide for myself what to think of it.
 

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That's the rumor.

I didn't go to ND, but my fiance graduated a couple years ago and she just laughed when I told her why Fauria MIGHT have been suspended for streaking. She says there's NO way he got kicked out for that. According to her, 2 dorms streak every semester before finals; one through the library and the other through La Fortune. If he got caught busted for that, then a lot more dudes would be getting suspended. Now if he did it by himself several times through the girls' dorms, then maybe. But knowing what I know now, I highly doubt that was what caused it..

Yeah, my dorm is actually one of the ones that streaks, and there's no way he got in trouble just for that. I can very confidently guess that he had been in trouble before, and warned about the consequences of it happening again. I'm not saying that ResLife's actions were perfectly justifiable, just that we're only getting one side of the story here.
 

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Fauria was sent to Res Life for grabbing his male tutor's "boob." At his Res life meeting, he slapped a priest (probably his rector) on the ass. They sent him packing.

Bill Kirk is a fuckhead.
 

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Fauria was sent to Res Life for grabbing his male tutor's "boob." At his Res life meeting, he slapped a priest (probably his rector) on the ass. They sent him packing.

Bill Kirk is a fuckhead.

Nice... I am going to give you reps for that. Granted I am drunkc and probably don't understand what it is you are saying... Have fun night and thanks for making me laugh... oh and I am going to put lots of dot dot dots in this reply......... becuase I am don't really care right now..... WE ARE ND.... can't wait for the season to start....
 
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