Department of Government Efficiency. DOGE.

[Giddyup]

Elon now Evil to left because he’s uncovering a leftist corruption scheme that has contributed to our gigantic debt. If these were NRA grants, etc.. Elon would still be your hero.

 

[GATTACA!]

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Elon now Evil to left because he’s uncovering a leftist corruption scheme that has contributed to our gigantic debt. If these were NRA grants, etc.. Elon would still be your hero.

You finding something to be a waste of spending does not make it "corruption". That word has lost all meaning. This money is all congressionally approved. You can literally look all this shit up if you feel like it.

If you don't think there is just as much wasteful GOP spending I have a bridge to sell you. I sure wonder why DOGE hasn't "uncovered" any of those programs lol.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

You finding something to be a waste of spending does not make it "corruption". That word has lost all meaning. This money is all congressionally approved. You can literally look all this shit up if you feel like it.

If you don't think there is just as much wasteful GOP spending I have a bridge to sell you. I sure wonder why DOGE hasn't "uncovered" any of those programs lol.

Principally, I'm not against the idea of reducing "wasteful" spending, but that devil in that is in the details. Trump and his cronies have painted USAID, who accounts for something like .015% of the entire federal budget, as some great "waste" of money. Are there some things on the line items that I kind of roll my eyes at? Sure....but that's true of any department in history...US Govt or not. The issue is Trump and Co are painting every spend they ideologically disagree with as "fraud". It's not. They just disagree with the spend. USAID did A LOT of good around the world in helping developing nations facing disease, famine, and the like. They were one of the biggest weapons we had in combating the AIDS epidemic in Africa.

Made this exact point almost a month ago in a different thread.

MAGA has made the terms "waste" and "fraud" mean nothing. If "everything" is fraud..then nothing is fraud.

As I said above I'm sure there was stuff in USAID and other areas of the Fed where I wouldn't agree with where the money was going. That doesn't make it "fraud" or "corruption". By all accounts this money was going to where it was supposed to go and used for it's expressed purpose. The definitionally isn't fraud or corruption...they just disagree with the purpose the money is being spent on.

More than willing to discuss spend by spend or program by program, on why I agree or disagree with the individual spend but simply labeling "DEI Spending in India" as "fraud" because they don't understand why that might be useful is counterproductive.

..and if all this spending was so "fraudulent" or "corrupt" I'd have to wonder why Trump and his justice department isn't hauling people to court/before Congress.

 

[Giddyup]

Yeah 2 billion rerouted to Stacy Abrams ngo for refrigerators isn’t covered in fraud as well as millions to media companies for $10,000 subscriptions. That’s just a couple of many examples. Your side is corrupt as can be between lawfare and money laundering. At some point you need to own reality. You guys are a lost cause.

 

[GATTACA!]

Yeah 2 billion rerouted to Stacy Abrams ngo for refrigerators isn’t covered in fraud as well as millions to media companies for $10,000 subscriptions. That’s just a couple of many examples. Your side is corrupt as can be between lawfare and money laundering. At some point you need to own reality. You guys are a lost cause.

Just complete horseshit that can be dispelled with 5 minutes of googling. It's incredible the way your brain works.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Just complete horseshit that can be dispelled with 5 minutes of googling. It's incredible the way your brain works.

It's incredible that his brain even works tbh

 

[BuaConstrictor]

that his brain even works

I mean....does it?

 

[ozzman]

It's incredible that his brain even works tbh

It clearly doesn't

 

[Gladiator]

Made this exact point almost a month ago in a different thread.

MAGA has made the terms "waste" and "fraud" mean nothing. If "everything" is fraud..then nothing is fraud.

As I said above I'm sure there was stuff in USAID and other areas of the Fed where I wouldn't agree with where the money was going. That doesn't make it "fraud" or "corruption". By all accounts this money was going to where it was supposed to go and used for it's expressed purpose. The definitionally isn't fraud or corruption...they just disagree with the purpose the money is being spent on.

More than willing to discuss spend by spend or program by program, on why I agree or disagree with the individual spend but simply labeling "DEI Spending in India" as "fraud" because they don't understand why that might be useful is counterproductive.

..and if all this spending was so "fraudulent" or "corrupt" I'd have to wonder why Trump and his justice department isn't hauling people to court/before Congress.

If "everything" is fraud..then nothing is fraud.

Ok Forrest. You just created a new T-shirt, for those that can't understand the responsibility of being an adult.

I will always vote for smile.

 

[NorthDakota]

Yeah 2 billion rerouted to Stacy Abrams ngo for refrigerators isn’t covered in fraud as well as millions to media companies for $10,000 subscriptions. That’s just a couple of many examples. Your side is corrupt as can be between lawfare and money laundering. At some point you need to own reality. You guys are a lost cause.

The subscription to a media group doesn't strike be as terribly bad. We don't have a government media apparatus.

To demonstrate, Reuters runs the best legal search engine in the country. They get a ton of money from both public and private entities. Why? They do a very good job. It's my engine of choice, but it is quite expensive.

Stacy Abrams getting paid is indeed waste/abuse.

 

[Gladiator]

It's actually 50%

It's 100% successful with astronauts on board.
I'm pretty sure that's 100% better then NASA.

The 100% of those humans on Elon Musks Space X Star Ships.

And the successful Falcon 9 booster landing.
How bout them winners.

This flight will bring home our astronaut's stuck in space for 6 months.

Say, Thank You Elon!

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Stacy Abrams getting paid is indeed waste/abuse.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/06/trump-stacey-abrams-fact-checker/

Did Stacey Abrams Receive $2 Billion From Taxpayers?

A nonprofit group that Abrams advises helped form a separate group that in 2023 received a $2 billion federal grant.

www.aol.com

Abrams didn’t admit she used $2 billion grant to buy votes

Days after President Donald Trump called out Stacey Abrams in his March 4 speech to Congress, Abrams defended herself in

www.politifact.com

 

[BuaConstrictor]

It's 100%

It's 50%

 

[Gladiator]

It's 50%

You're a child.

If you see no more responses from me, It's because I enjoy a thought provoking response from a board full of intelligent people and conversations.
See ya later alligator.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

You're a child.

Who knows how to calculate 50%? It's not difficult.

If you see no more responses from me,

It's because I enjoy a thought provoking response from a board full of intelligent people and conversations.

Glad I could add to it. When do you plan on contributing?

 

[Giddyup]

Just complete horseshit that can be dispelled with 5 minutes of googling. It's incredible the way your brain works.

Yeah. How was it dispelled on the msm? Stacy went on tv and tried to explain it. How was the 10k subscriptions explained by msm? You geniuses ever wonder why the richest counties in America are in DC/Northern Virginia area? Politicians becoming millionaires and billionaires on their salary? Keep putting the blinders on boys. I’m not deluded enough to not know establish Repubs and all Democrats are screwing us by giving ludicrous money to ngo’s and half the time getting it filtered it back to them, not even counting the war money laundering.

Liberals believe a man with a dick can be a woman so I know my crowd not expecting anything else but lame excuses. They’ve widdled the Dem party down to straight sheep.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Yeah. How was it dispelled on the msm? Stacy went on tv and tried to explain it. How was the 10k subscriptions explained by msm? You geniuses ever wonder why the richest counties in America are in DC/Northern Virginia area? Politicians becoming millionaires and billionaires on their salary? Keep putting the blinders on boys. I’m not deluded enough to not know establish Repubs and all Democrats are screwing us by giving ludicrous money to ngo’s and half the time getting it filtered it back to them, not even counting the war money laundering.

Liberals believe a man with a dick can be a woman so I know my crowd not expecting anything else but lame excuses. They’ve widdled the Dem party down to straight sheep.

No one tell him that Caitlyn Jenner a transgender women isn't a liberal and is an ardent Republican/Trump supporter

 

[Giddyup]

Who cares? That was a worthless comment to the matter we’re discussing

No one tell him that Caitlyn Jenner a transgender women isn't a liberal and is an ardent Republican/Trump supporter

 

[NDVirginia19]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/06/trump-stacey-abrams-fact-checker/

Did Stacey Abrams Receive $2 Billion From Taxpayers?

A nonprofit group that Abrams advises helped form a separate group that in 2023 received a $2 billion federal grant.

www.aol.com

Abrams didn’t admit she used $2 billion grant to buy votes

Days after President Donald Trump called out Stacey Abrams in his March 4 speech to Congress, Abrams defended herself in

www.politifact.com

Did you even read your own "fact checks"? Nobody here is claiming she bought votes, we are claiming that we spent $2BN to Abrams' NGO (which almost certainly money goes to Abrams for her to "run") to buy people refrigerators. That is absolute fact

 

[Giddyup]

2billion in fridges? The whole southeast US should have a new fridge but we all know it was a huge money laundering scheme like so much that is now being exposed. So much damn corruption we the people finally get to see and Dems are mad.

 

[ColoradoIrish]

Who cares? That was a worthless comment to the matter we’re discussing

Because you brought it up for some reason

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Did you even read your own "fact checks"?

Yes.

(which almost certainly money goes to Abrams for her to "run") to buy people refrigerators. That is absolute fact

Prove that. Go for it.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Abrams' NGO

Fact-checking Trump’s claim that a group ‘headed up’ by Stacey Abrams received $2 billion

Rewiring America was part of a five-group coalition awarded a $2 million EPA grant to help make homes across the country more energy efficient.

www.statesman.com

 

[NDVirginia19]

Yes.



Prove that. Go for it.

I get that syntax is hard for you.

That Abrams' NGO got nearly $2 Billion to buy people appliances in their homes: Fact

That Abrams' was paid by this NGO to do the work: Almost certainly fact. Rewiring America doesn't have publicly available tax information for the time that Abrams has been there. But she's raked in about half a million dollars in the past decade doing her work for other NGOs, so it is almost certain that she didn't take that job just out of the kindness of her heart lmao

 

[BuaConstrictor]

That Abrams' NGO

Fact-checking Trump’s claim that a group ‘headed up’ by Stacey Abrams received $2 billion

Rewiring America was part of a five-group coalition awarded a $2 million EPA grant to help make homes across the country more energy efficient.

www.statesman.com

Almost certainly fact.

Prove it.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Fact-checking Trump’s claim that a group ‘headed up’ by Stacey Abrams received $2 billion

Rewiring America was part of a five-group coalition awarded a $2 million EPA grant to help make homes across the country more energy efficient.

www.statesman.com

Prove it.

Yeah buddy let me go hack into Abrams' checking account to prove a claim that I already stated I can't prove. What a joke lmfao. Yeah I'm sure she wasn't the one calling the shots, because she's not an expert in fucking appliances. She was put on the board as a senior advisor because she has friends in DC and it was a way for her to get IRA funds directed to the NGO in exchange for payment. PROBABLY

 

[BuaConstrictor]

Yeah buddy let me go hack into Abrams' checking account to prove a claim

Fact-checking Trump’s claim that a group ‘headed up’ by Stacey Abrams received $2 billion

Rewiring America was part of a five-group coalition awarded a $2 million EPA grant to help make homes across the country more energy efficient.

www.statesman.com

Prove your claim.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Fact-checking Trump’s claim that a group ‘headed up’ by Stacey Abrams received $2 billion

Rewiring America was part of a five-group coalition awarded a $2 million EPA grant to help make homes across the country more energy efficient.

www.statesman.com

Prove your claim.

 

[BuaConstrictor]

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Fact-checking Trump’s claim that a group ‘headed up’ by Stacey Abrams received $2 billion

Rewiring America was part of a five-group coalition awarded a $2 million EPA grant to help make homes across the country more energy efficient.

www.statesman.com

Prove your claim.

 

[Giddyup]

Objection your honor: no exhibits were entered into the record