Clausen punked by Steve Smith

[IrishAlum1997]

Steve Smith: Clausen 'has a lot to learn' | lot, smith, steve - Sports - The Star Online : The Newspaper of Cleveland County

While Jimmy's performance has been less than good, a veteran WR should shut his mouth and handle his business in private.

It's a shame that Jimmy's NFL career is going to go the route of Brady Quinn. I get that he's no Peyton Manning, but i recall Peyton Manning didn't win too many games in his first year. Rookie QB's these days don't get a chance to grow in a system, Sanchez being a recent exception to the rule, and I think Rex Ryan is going to lose his job sooner than later with that Trojan under center.

Good Luck in Carolina, Andrew.

 

[Anchorman]

Have to agree with the Quinn comparison in terms of where it looks like his career is headed. Carolina drafting Luck seems to make sense.

 

[mgriff]

His team is terrible. You put a rookie quarterback on a terrible team and you'll get a terrible rookie quarterback. It's pretty simple. Jimmy has performed in line with his teammates this year. I don't know if he'll ever be a quality starter, but it's his first season, and the Panthers are atrocious.

 

[NankerPhelge]

With all the talk going around about Floyd and Rudolph leaving early, I wonder if they ever look at guys like Clausen and wonder if Jimmy would have been better prepared if he had stayed around at ND for another year. Yeah, yeah, I know it's different positions and everything. And I don't follow pro ball that much. Maybe somebody who does could talk a little bit about the relative success/failure of guys who left college early to join the pros vs. the guys who finished their eligibility in college before going pro. Just wondering.

 

[KPENN]

With all the talk going around about Floyd and Rudolph leaving early, I wonder if they ever look at guys like Clausen and wonder if Jimmy would have been better prepared if he had stayed around at ND for another year. Yeah, yeah, I know it's different positions and everything. And I don't follow pro ball that much. Maybe somebody who does could talk a little bit about the relative success/failure of guys who left college early to join the pros vs. the guys who finished their eligibility in college before going pro. Just wondering.

IMO it woulda made no sense for Jimmy to come back...

 

[NankerPhelge]

IMO it woulda made no sense for Jimmy to come back...

Yeah, and I know that there's really no way to tell in a single case. I was just wondering if there is a comparison between the relative success of guys who leave early as compared to guys who don't.

 

[KPENN]

Yeah, and I know that there's really no way to tell in a single case. I was just wondering if there is a comparison between the relative success of guys who leave early as compared to guys who don't.

Yeah I see where your coming from. It's tough saying though cause QB is such a different position

 

[NankerPhelge]

Somebody should get that genius statistical guy who posts on here to analyze this (his name escapes me for the moment, but his posts are like works of art/rocket science.. and, no, it is not you ACamp, regardless of what you may think). Then, once he gets all of the charts and graphs compiled, and they show a clear corelation between staying and greater success in the pros, publish it and send copies to guys who are thinking of leaving early. Just a thought.

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

Somebody should get that genius statistical guy who posts on here to analyze this (his name escapes me for the moment, but his posts are like works of art/rocket science.. and, no, it is not you ACamp, regardless of what you may think). Then, once he gets all of the charts and graphs compiled, and they show a clear corelation between staying and greater success in the pros, publish it and send copies to guys who are thinking of leaving early. Just a thought.

Easton in PA.


That would be some serious research. Someone should write a thesis on that topic.

 

[irishtrain]

Clausen is and still can be a fine QB. You will never convince me that staying one more year would not have helped him. Its only a few jewels that can have one good year and go early. If for nothing else its aging and just feeling excellance for more than one year. Jimmy Clausen is on a weak team and its just that simple. I'm not saying he is playing well-he is not, but lets give the guy some time hear or is the NFL that stupid to see these rookies are not going to pull a weak team up all by themselves. Clausen's story is not finished- he can play. Andrew Luck or Otto Grahm couldnt do any better. Thats still the same arm that produced last year. I hope someone if not Carolina takes a little harder look at his skills. The guy can throw the ball.

 

[PatsandBostonfan1975]

Carolina is horrible !!!!!!!! Clausen hasn't been great but Nobody could make this team a winner. I love Tom Brady but even he couldnt make this team a winner. but he would make them 500.

 

[bert2834]

Carolina is horrible !!!!!!!! Clausen hasn't been great but Nobody could make this team a winner. I love Tom Brady but even he couldnt make this team a winner. but he would make them 500.

It doesn't matter who there QB is. You only get 1 second to throw the football cause there line is terrible at pass blocking. They run block well enough, but when the QB has no time to survey the field....

 

[DomerBoy]

Steve Smith: Clausen 'has a lot to learn' | lot, smith, steve - Sports - The Star Online : The Newspaper of Cleveland County

While Jimmy's performance has been less than good, a veteran WR should shut his mouth and handle his business in private.

It's a shame that Jimmy's NFL career is going to go the route of Brady Quinn. I get that he's no Peyton Manning, but i recall Peyton Manning didn't win too many games in his first year. Rookie QB's these days don't get a chance to grow in a system, Sanchez being a recent exception to the rule, and I think Rex Ryan is going to lose his job sooner than later with that Trojan under center.

Good Luck in Carolina, Andrew.

He was referring to the apology made to the defensive player we he said "he has a lot to learn", not about his performance. I agree with Smith, he should be more closer with the teammates he huddles with instead of defensive players.

Where in the article did Clausen get punked anyway?

 

[nlroma1o]

Why would the Panthers even be interested in Luck when they just drafted clausen last year? I don't think they are going to through Jimbo outta there that quick.

 

[Bubba Du Lac]

I was at the Carolina game yesterday. I left at halftime (along with the other droves), after the Panthers had gained something like 33 yards in entire half.

The team is just plain awful. Jimmy has about as much time in the pocket as he did in his first few years at ND. He is being overwhelmed by the rush as there is no time to do anything before he's got defensive ends attempting appendectomies on him. I see it similar to the situation Quinn faced in Cleveland. A rookie QB has no chance if the O-Line is collapsing around him.

By the way, the stadium was probably less than 1/3 full. And the Falcon fans made more noise than did the Carolina crowd. Then again, there wasn't a whole lot for the Carolina fans to be fans about. I wonder if this team is even sustainable in Charlotte.

 

[ThePiombino]

He was referring to the apology made to the defensive player we he said "he has a lot to learn", not about his performance. I agree with Smith, he should be more closer with the teammates he huddles with instead of defensive players.

Where in the article did Clausen get punked anyway?

Seems pretty plain and simple to me- Smith definitely threw Clausen under the bus. Whether or not it was warranted, well that's a whole other debate...

He was referring to the apology made to the defensive player we he said "he has a lot to “I’m the last guy to tell anybody to be apologizing, but if you’re going to apologize, you know, you should apologize to the people in the huddle with you,” Smith said. “But he has a lot to learn. He ain’t in Notre Dame anymore, that’s for sure.”

 

[IrishAlum1997]

He was referring to the apology made to the defensive player we he said "he has a lot to learn", not about his performance. I agree with Smith, he should be more closer with the teammates he huddles with instead of defensive players.

Where in the article did Clausen get punked anyway?

The fact that Smith said if Jimmy should apologize to anyone its the guys in the offensive huddle was unnecessary. It reeks of a primadonna veteran that is frustrated by the season his team is having and inserts his foot in his mouth. Replace "punked" with "disrespected," "called out," whatever. Semantics.

 

[Ben E.]

steve smith=locker room cancer!!! the guy who punches a teamate every other camp shouldnt question anyones actions.

 

[IrishAlum1997]

steve smith=locker room cancer!!! the guy who punches a teamate every other camp shouldnt question anyones actions.

+1

 

[TDHeysus]

is this steve smith being a jerk or is this steve smith teaching the young guys how to play in the NFL....

but he is right, any first year QB, or first player for that matter, has alot to learn in the NFL.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Carolina's O line is horrible. The fact that their running game has been periodically injured and forever changing definitely doesn't help. Living in Michigan I have alot of friends who hate ND. But the majority of them have great respect for Quinn and Clausen and root for them based on their ability. Even among 'haters' there seems to be a general agreement that both of these QBs were put into horrible situations to start their career. Sanchez is different because his O line is good and his D keeps it so rarely is he asked to do more than manage a game.

 

[DomerBoy]

The fact that Smith said if Jimmy should apologize to anyone its the guys in the offensive huddle was unnecessary. It reeks of a primadonna veteran that is frustrated by the season his team is having and inserts his foot in his mouth. Replace "punked" with "disrespected," "called out," whatever. Semantics.

I see this as him teaching him the ropes of the NFL. Offensive players should rally around offensive players and defensive players should rally around defensive players. I still think Clausen is not relishing the leadership role that he has been put into.

steve smith=locker room cancer!!! the guy who punches a teamate every other camp shouldnt question anyones actions.

Actually in NFL camps, coaches and players encourage fighting. Sometimes coaches pick out the toughest and dirtiest players to invoke a fight from another player. I see nothing wrong with fighting during camp.

 

[Ben E.]

Actually in NFL camps, coaches and players encourage fighting. Sometimes coaches pick out the toughest and dirtiest players to invoke a fight from another player. I see nothing wrong with fighting during camp.

yea i saw hard knocks as well buddy...i know all about the set up fights etc.
they may encourage a fight or two a camp but they dont encourage breaking someones face or breaking your wrist on their face so that you/they miss extended practice time. an nfl fight (from what ive seen) is usualy a bunch of pushing and swearing not a queensberry rules bare knuckle contest. also, if he wanted to teach a lesson to a young player embarrassing him in the media is not the way to go about it imo but thats what steve smith is about...himself. but im not a millionaire athlete so what do i know...

 

[eNDzone]

Clausen is not the only QB in the NFL that doesn't have time to throw and doesn't have a stellar back to hand the ball off to. I thought he had alot of work to do on his pocket presence and tightening up his long ball at ND.

When the O line isn't doing well the QB has no choice but to take chances he wished he didn't have to. That's why I love a QB that can get the job done when everything isn't just like the dreamt it would be. Clausen is in a position where he can get run over or he can grow into an effective maybe even a great NFL QB.