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I'd love to see him come back,but I think weis will suggest to him to turn pro
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You know, he came on strong but kind of tapered off in the second half of the year.

There are guys out there like Mercedes Lewis of UCLA and Jeff King of Va Tech that could go before him.

If he can go, he should. John Carlson will be great as a starter. From what I've seen, I think he could use another year. But if he and Weis hear other Weis, jump while his value is high.
 

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I have the feeling that Fasano wants to come back for one more year of seasoning under Weis' NFL type offensive scheme and give it a shot for the NC. It would be a nice receiving group with Fasano, Carlson (double TE formations), McKnight, Shark, Grimes, etc. Quinn will have a field day, especially with the returning linemen (Harris, Morton, Santucci, Sullivan and the tight ends blocking for him. It will be a real offensive circus, plus we have all the backs returning (except for RPN). Then we have all the new recruits and the freshmen who got a lot of seasoning this year.

Now all we have to do is fix the defense and nobody will be able to touch us!!!!!!!!!

PS: Please God, keep Quinn healthy all of 06!!
 
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Weis has said that TE's unlike other positions really don't improve their draft status with another year of college ball. I'm sure Weis will welcome him back with open arms if he decides to come back. I have a feeling he may come back, but he has nothing to prove he'll be a day one draft pick(even though this is a deep draft for TE's) and he has his degree..
 

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Stevenson & LeVoir are the only two of the starting linemen that have exhausted all their eligibility. I am assuming Weis wants everyone else back and the University will allow a 5th year where necessary.
 
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so that's sorta still up in the air.That would be great if they decided to.
next year will be filled with a lot of excitement with the schedule.It would be nice going into the 2007 season to see a 13-0 on the PLAY LIKE A CHAMPION TODAY board coming out of the locker room:clap:
 

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Weis has said that TE's unlike other positions really don't improve their draft status with another year of college ball. I'm sure Weis will welcome him back with open arms if he decides to come back. I have a feeling he may come back, but he has nothing to prove he'll be a day one draft pick(even though this is a deep draft for TE's) and he has his degree..


BINGO QUEENS!!! Someone, I think Haden, mentioned this. He said that he talked to NFL 'people' and they said that Antnee is projected as a 2nd rounder and that TE's don't really improve their status w/ another year...SO, IMHO, WHY LEAVE?? Stay for one more year, get a NC, enjoy another year of CJ's burgers, Macri's mugs, 'Backer Beauties and then go pro. You're only young once!! Hell, maybe he can even finaggle (sp??) his way into Social Dance so he can 'be like Matt'
 

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Yeah, damn fifth year guys at ND either double major or go to grad school. How pathetic. Stupid racist eliteists.

Seriously, Fasano needs to go if the time is right. SC fans are PRAYING for Bush, White and Smith to return. Not sure why. All of them are Day One choices and they'll be replaced by some other HS All Americans.

ND has depth at TE should Fasano go.
 

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I think he'll go. And I think he should. Let's get the NFL pipeline flowing again. And I don't mean a smattering of rounds 4-7 guys who will develop in the pros once they finally get the coaching to match their abilities. I mean first day guys that teams fall over themselves to get. The Notre Dame bargain bin is closed.
 

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meh...i can wait another year for the nd pipeline to open the floodgates. i'd rather he stayed. but i'm not the one passing up an nfl contract for another year at ND, so....
 

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I normally can't stand the thought of guys leaving college after only 3 years for the NFL. But in Fasano's case... TE is not an easy position to play, and there's only so many years of punishment your body can take. His stock is fairly high right now, so he may just want to take the money and run, and I wouldn't blame him if he did.

That said, though, I hope he comes back!
 

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Vince Young said:
I normally can't stand the thought of guys leaving college after only 3 years for the NFL. But in Fasano's case... TE is not an easy position to play, and there's only so many years of punishment your body can take. His stock is fairly high right now, so he may just want to take the money and run, and I wouldn't blame him if he did.
That said, though, I hope he comes back!

He wouldn't be leaving after three years. He's played 3, but he's been at ND for 4. He graduates this year. That's one reason why I'd have an easier time supporting his decision if he goes.
 

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I think he's gone......from the media session on Saturday:

On the process on determining whether he will return for a fifth year of eligibility...

"Using my resources here, Coach Weis and my parents. I think that's the best resources I can use to determine what is the best decision for my family and make a decision after the bowl. I can go back and talk to Jeff Faine and guys like Dan Stevenson and Mark LeVoir who stayed a fifth year."

Sounds like a very evasive/careful answer which I think means he's heavily favoring the draft.
 
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I think he's gone......from the media session on Saturday:
On the process on determining whether he will return for a fifth year of eligibility...
"Using my resources here, Coach Weis and my parents. I think that's the best resources I can use to determine what is the best decision for my family and make a decision after the bowl. I can go back and talk to Jeff Faine and guys like Dan Stevenson and Mark LeVoir who stayed a fifth year."
Sounds like a very evasive/careful answer which I think means he's heavily favoring the draft.
Agreed!! He's had a great year and I don't thnk another year, even if it was great, would increase his NFL worth that much. The risk-reward ratio is not favorable for him.

For ND--stay (selfishly)

For Fasano--Take the bucks
 

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Domer95 said:
BINGO QUEENS!!! Someone, I think Haden, mentioned this. He said that he talked to NFL 'people' and they said that Antnee is projected as a 2nd rounder and that TE's don't really improve their status w/ another year...SO, IMHO, WHY LEAVE?? Stay for one more year, get a NC, enjoy another year of CJ's burgers, Macri's mugs, 'Backer Beauties and then go pro. You're only young once!! Hell, maybe he can even finaggle (sp??) his way into Social Dance so he can 'be like Matt'


One reason - two words - compound interest. He only has so many money making years in him. If he does one of those years for free he will never be able to get that cash back. And not only that but the money he makes next year will continue to make money for him as the years go on.

Also with TEs the money you make in your first years is more than those in later years (Gates, Gonzalez are exceptions to this)
 

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There are quite a few good TE out there. I think it will be interesting to see where he falls into place in relation to those other guys.

John Carlson getting more opportunities would be interesting.
 

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Depending on who comes out, he may only be about the fourth TE taken, but this year that could still mean a second round selection. TE is a tough position at which to improve stock. It's not like the scouts don't know about him yet. If he leaves, it's not a bad choice. He will have his degree. This was his fourth year in school. I wish him luck. As Bengals fan, I'd love to see him in Cincy. TE is the missing piece to their offensive puzzle.
 
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Depending on who comes out, he may only be about the fourth TE taken, but this year that could still mean a second round selection. TE is a tough position at which to improve stock. It's not like the scouts don't know about him yet. If he leaves, it's not a bad choice. He will have his degree. This was his fourth year in school. I wish him luck. As Bengals fan, I'd love to see him in Cincy. TE is the missing piece to their offensive puzzle.
All depends on the need of the teams selecting -- if you want a TE that can run block, pass block and catch he will go as the #1 TE. If you want a WR wearing a TE number then Mercedes Lewis will go as #1 TE and Fasano will drop down to 4-ish.
 

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I want Fasano to stay, I am not sold on carlson yet. Couple of reasons - His mobility is limited, blocking is par, and I know that I have never seen him break a tackle or sell out for a catch. If you remember he missed two consecutive blocking assignments against syracuse. His upside is his size, but he looks like he is going through the motions out there some times.
 

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leppycole said:
I want Fasano to stay, I am not sold on carlson yet. Couple of reasons - His mobility is limited, blocking is par, and I know that I have never seen him break a tackle or sell out for a catch. If you remember he missed two consecutive blocking assignments against syracuse. His upside is his size, but he looks like he is going through the motions out there some times.

Mobility limited? He's actually more athletic than Fasano. Weis was even quoted as saying NFL scouts are already asking about him and some see more upside in him than in Fasano.
 

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Mobility limited? He's actually more athletic than Fasano. Weis was even quoted as saying NFL scouts are already asking about him and some see more upside in him than in Fasano.

Scoop is right. Carlson is a stud.

There are a slew of tight ends out there, including guys that could most likely jump early. It is tough to find a good one that can be a difference maker.

The Bears are in dire need of a tight end right now. There could be three or four taken in the first round this year alone. I'd have to guess with those numbers, Fasano would be included in the first three rounds somewhere.

That's good enough to make the jump.
 

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Yes. Hiben was a 4 star guy. He'll factor in, I'm sure. TE is one position that I'm not worried about if Fasano goes.
 

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I'm not sure which Carlson scoop and Jigga are watching. I saw him catch 7 balls this year for a total of 56 yards. 22 of those yards was a TD in the Purdue game - nice catch, but he was wide open. Seriously, Fasano leaving would be a major loss in my opinion. How you think he is more athletic than Fasano is confusing. Do you watch the games? Here is a question - You are an NFL owner and you need a reliable TE - your choices are Fasano and Carlson - who would you pick? I know it would only take me a second to pick Fasano.
 

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The answer is Fasano because there is no question. His 56 catches to Carlson's 6 trump him immediately, yes.

Provided opportunities, I like Carlson in the starting spot once Fasano leaves, whether it is this year or next. He, like Hiben, was pretty highly touted coming into Notre Dame. I like his makeup. Not sure on his blocking skills, but he is definitely someone that will step into the role once his time comes. The 2006 offense doesn't really worry me that much.

Is Fasano hurt? 5 catches against Cuse and Stanford combined.
 

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I'm not sure which Carlson scoop and Jigga are watching. I saw him catch 7 balls this year for a total of 56 yards. 22 of those yards was a TD in the Purdue game - nice catch, but he was wide open. Seriously, Fasano leaving would be a major loss in my opinion. How you think he is more athletic than Fasano is confusing. Do you watch the games? Here is a question - You are an NFL owner and you need a reliable TE - your choices are Fasano and Carlson - who would you pick? I know it would only take me a second to pick Fasano.

What do you want him to catch? We had two WR's catch over 1,000 yards and our first TE catch over 500. There's not much else to go around. The fact that Carlson was not the first option at TE is an indication of how good Fasano is and the fact that Fasano had a two year head start on him. Carlson will be fine. Charlie himself said NFL scouts are already asking about him.

The only other player whose abilities Weis has openly bragged about this year that I can remember is Brady Quinn.
 

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as mentioned before, the NFL pipeline may be very important for next year's recruiting class. if sc can't land the size class they want and lose their stars to the draft this year, they'll be out in full force to compete with us for the same guys. we're deep enough at TE to lose fasano and have him as an example of yet another player we sent up.

DONT GET ME WRONG...i love fasano. hell, i'm a bisignano. i love how hard he plays (and that he's italian) but to have him go would not be the difference between another pointless bcs game and the nc.
 
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we're deep enough at TE to lose fasano and have him as an example of yet another player we sent up. i love how hard he plays (and that he's italian) but to have him go would not be the difference between another pointless bcs game and the nc.

If Stovall can go as high as one of the first two rounds (a guy generally thought of as an average receiver before Weis came), it will be seen as a more impressive accomplishment than a high Fasano pick.

I do agree that we have enough depth at TE. I don't think anybody should care what he does.
 

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jiggafini19 said:
Is Fasano hurt? 5 catches against Cuse and Stanford combined.

fasano took an injury to either the wrist or shoulder around mid-season....maybe so cal? can't remember. could just be coincidence, but his second half of the season was certainly more 'human' than his first.
 
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