Al Golden

[SouthSideChiDomer]

If he leaves, what job he takes will influence my reaction. If he is taking an NFL DC job, then it could reflect well on the program that both our coordinators left for coordinating positions at the top of the sport. Its a good selling point for other up and coming coaches we are looking to get.

However, if he leaves for a position coach job, then it makes it seem like something is wrong with the program under Freeman. After one year he would be losing a coordinator that has been at his alma mater for years and having someone take a demotion to move on after only one year here.

 

[allenm5333]

I wonder if Mickens is due to be elevated. Could make him DC and bring a LB coach in. Maybe the guy who was a GA and went to Vandy. Or Jim Leonard

 

[stpeteirish]

This one will hurt.

Who? We can upgrade from Golden. He was pretty average in results so far, both on the field and in recruiting.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Who? We can upgrade from Golden. He was pretty average in results so far, both on the field and in recruiting.

SO was Tommy, but a lot of people are pearl clutching at his loss. The defense was pretty good this year. I believe Golden is a much bigger loss than Tommy.

 

[stlnd01]

If he leaves, what job he takes will influence my reaction. If he is taking an NFL DC job, then it could reflect well on the program that both our coordinators left for coordinating positions at the top of the sport. Its a good selling point for other up and coming coaches we are looking to get.

However, if he leaves for a position coach job, then it makes it seem like something is wrong with the program under Freeman. After one year he would be losing a coordinator that has been at his alma mater for years and having someone take a demotion to move on after only one year here.

FWIW I don't think a Rees move and a Golden move would be all that related.
I doubt Rees is leaving because of anything internal at Notre Dame, but rather for the chance to keep growing. Golden going back to being LB coach at the Bengals would be weird, though if it's for a DC job in the NFL, I guess I get it. Was probably always his plan.
Either way, both are replaceable. The challenge is the timing. We're late in the college hiring cycle, and spring ball isn't really that far off.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I'd also take a long look at Heacock.

They did already. He took a pass.

Rossi sounds like a great idea.

 

[irishff1014]

Jim Leonhard would be a HR if it came to that.

I thought his problem was he didn't recruit hard enough.

 

[stlnd01]

SO was Tommy, but a lot of people are pearl clutching at his loss. The defense was pretty good this year. I believe Golden is a much bigger loss than Tommy.

No one's leaving the program if Golden leaves. People are clutching pearls about Rees b/c they worry Hartman and maybe Carr will follow.

 

[Katzenboyer]

SO was Tommy, but a lot of people are pearl clutching at his loss. The defense was pretty good this year. I believe Golden is a much bigger loss than Tommy.

The defense was not "pretty good." It was actually average in all respects, but they were ranked something like 120th in red zone defense.

Al Golden is not a guy who can coordinate a playoff contender, which is where ND wants to be. Full stop.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

No one's leaving the program if Golden leaves. People are clutching pearls about Rees b/c they worry Hartman and maybe Carr will follow.

How do you know no one will enter the portal on the defense? Carr and Hartman are likely fine... we need to just hire a great OC.

 

[irishff1014]

I feel bad for Freeman. One had it looks good one hand it looks bad. I though we were going to have a good off season and not a shit show. UGH This is a bummer of a way to end the week.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

The defense was not "pretty good." It was actually average in all respects, but they were ranked something like 120th in red zone defense.

Al Golden is not a guy who can coordinate a playoff contender, which is where ND wants to be. Full stop.

What was Tommy's rank compared to the bad Golden? If Golden is bad what does that say about Tommy?

 

[Irishman77]

Clean house Marcus! Love it!

 

[Katzenboyer]

How do you know no one will enter the portal on the defense? Carr and Hartman are likely fine... we need to just hire a great OC.

The guys recruited did not come to play for Al Golden. They came to play for MF.

If guys enter the portal, it'll be for playing time, not because Al Golden is no longer coaching them.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

The guys recruited did not come to play for Al Golden. They came to play for MF.

If guys enter the portal, it'll be for playing time, not because Al Golden is no longer coaching them.

Glad you know all the players feelings! I feel much better

 

[stlnd01]

How do you know no one will enter the portal on the defense? Carr and Hartman are likely fine... we need to just hire a great OC.

Maybe we lose someone to the portal, sure, could happen. But it won't be because of Golden leaving. He didn't recruit anyone who matters; even the young LBs are all Freeman guys. And it certainly won't be anyone as important as our starting quarterback.

I don't know if Hartman would bolt. I kind of doubt it, personally, assuming we hire a good OC. But it'd be much bigger collateral damage than anything that might follow from Golden departing.

 

[irishff1014]

Clean house Marcus! Love it!

Really? Do you want to win?

 

[Katzenboyer]

Glad you know all the players feelings! I feel much better

Name a guy who came to ND because Al Golden, who has been here less than a year, is the DC.

This would not be a loss for the program whatsoever. Al Golden is not a coordinator that moves the needle much, if at all.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Name a guy who came to ND because Al Golden, who has been here less than a year, is the DC.

This would not be a loss for the program whatsoever. Al Golden is not a coordinator that moves the needle much, if at all.

I have personally left companies because of disorder at the top and due to the fact relationships were broken. While you can say no one will leave because of Golden, you have no clue what an individual will process this. Did they develop a bond or like the teaching style of Golden. I also do not know, but you cannot either.. Golden defense was ranked pretty good, not great, but it caused less stress than the offense.

 

[irishfan]

If we lose both and you’re Freeman you’ve got to be looking at Swarbrick like “wtf? You’re setting me up to fail”

How exactly? No reports about money being an issue.

 

[Giddyup]

Maybe he’ll take Al Washington with him.

 

[Free Manera]

Jim Leonhard is literally just sitting out there waiting to get called. Just tell Golden to go and take the homerun upgrade.

 

[Giddyup]

How exactly? No reports about money being an issue.

How about beating the price.

 

[Giddyup]

Universities are stupid full with money since the explosion of tuition in America.

 

[Irishman77]

Really? Do you want to win?

For decades. MF has settled in and going to bring winners. Rees should be coaching high school ball and Al would be better off coaching linebackers elsewhere imo.

Can’t wait to finally see elite players be coached up and win it all.

 

[Giddyup]

Jim Leonhard is literally just sitting out there waiting to get called. Just tell Golden to go and take the homerun upgrade.

Leonhard doesn’t recruit hard either, just in case people are expecting that.

 

[dublinirish]

For decades. MF has settled in and going to bring winners. Rees should be coaching high school ball and Al would be better off coaching linebackers elsewhere imo.

Can’t wait to finally see elite players be coached up and win it all.

Ndnation level take there

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Jim Leonhard is literally just sitting out there waiting to get called. Just tell Golden to go and take the homerun upgrade.

Looking at their stats last year he looks pretty good. Do not know much about him though.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Leonhard doesn’t recruit hard either, just in case people are expecting that.

That is an issue if true.

 

[zbikowski88]

What about Freeman grooming someone internal like Mickens to be DC for a year. Then just find a DL or LB coach depending on the fit for Washington.