3 and done for CW?

[nojoke]

Is Charlie riding the proverbial " out of dodge bus" that Willingham was placed on? How long will expectations & talk be tolerated? It isn't WHAT YOU SAY but what YOU DO. Charlie has been talking but hasn't produced. Will he get the 3 year "snatch?"

 

[NDFan78]

Don't compare Weis to Willingham. Weis has had 3 top ten recruiting classes. Young players need time to develop.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Don't compare Weis to Willingham. Weis has had 3 top ten recruiting classes. Young players need time to develop.

Agreed. Although this year isn't going the way we all would like, Weis does have the program going in the right direction. Just remember all of this three years from now and how we all stuck by our team. We will be back on top with Weis as our coach.

 

[Stalking_Eagle]

Wow wonderful first post, welcome.

 

[Junkhead]

Is Charlie riding the proverbial " out of dodge bus" that Willingham was placed on? How long will expectations & talk be tolerated? It isn't WHAT YOU SAY but what YOU DO. Charlie has been talking but hasn't produced. Will he get the 3 year "snatch?"

You Fail.

 

[NDboy15]

No.

 

[ant80]

Is Charlie riding the proverbial " out of dodge bus" that Willingham was placed on? How long will expectations & talk be tolerated? It isn't WHAT YOU SAY but what YOU DO. Charlie has been talking but hasn't produced. Will he get the 3 year "snatch?"

Haha. I was wondering how long it would be before someone started a thread like this... Makes for a good laugh. grin:

 

[NDSMC78]

ND went to BCS bowl games in Charlie's first two years. He was 19-6 heading into this season. A lot of us knew that we would probably struggle early this year. Yeah, we laid an egg Saturday, but I think great things are on the horizon.

 

[MeanGreen]

Three and out for a coach who has rescued the program would be rough. He probably inherited more of a mess than anyone in recent history. Plus, I think this year still can be a success, not an NC or BCS bowl, but 8 - 4 or 7 - 5 plus a bowl victory. One game a season does not make.

 

[GoshenGipper]

I agree with everyone else here that has replied so far. CW has taken ND to BCS Bowls in his first two years with slightly above adverage, to good talent at best talent at best if you take into account the about of depth there was on the team. He has done absolutly awesome in recruiting thus far and he is still going strong on that front. This team will be fine, they will mostly likely be 7-5, or 8-4, but what did you really expect? The OL needs game experience to gel, and there is young, and inexperienced talent all over the field.

So in other words, get real, and since this is your first post I wouldn't be suprised if you were just a flamer, in which case you need to get lost or I will do it for you.

 

[benneboy]

Is Charlie riding the proverbial " out of dodge bus" that Willingham was placed on? How long will expectations & talk be tolerated? It isn't WHAT YOU SAY but what YOU DO. Charlie has been talking but hasn't produced. Will he get the 3 year "snatch?"

trolls, eat sh$t and die

if he isn't a troll he is the worst ND football fan ever.

 

[notredomer23]

Willingham wasnt fired because he couldnt coach, he was fired because he couldnt recruit IMO. Weis is the total package.

 

[GoshenGipper]

In my opinon it was both combined with the fustration that the ND fans and almuni were feeling from Davie's mediocrity wich gave Willingham a shorter leash because they were just flat tired of losing to teams they should beat with ease.

 

[buckeyebacker]

Okay, as many of you know I am not a Troll even though I AM from Columbus and a huge Buckeye fan...but I did some research on the two coaches Willingham and Weis and the first two years parallel TO AN EXTENT....Willingham and Weis were both able to take their teams to a New Years day or post-New Years day bowl, they both we named coach of the year by a number of different outlets. The second year both coaches had teams that "underachieved" to most ND fans, Willingham went 5-7 and missed a bowl, Weis went 10-2 in a season that most Irish fans thought would be a National Championship contending team. Willingham's 3rd and final season he went 6-6 and was fired before the Bowl game (Oregon St, Insight Bowl) Weis' is still to be determined.

I see why maybe that this "nojoke" fella said what he did and asked the question, however, I do agree 100% with everyone else on this thread that Weis has made tremendous advancements to getting the Irish in the right spot, this year will be a season that most Irish fans will just want to get through and move on to the following season since the future really is an extremely bright one in South Bend. Weis will NOT be ousted in 3 seasons like Willingham, but he's got to get things rolling next season and the year after because he's finally getting his guys into the system.

 

[MeanGreen]

Willingham and Davie did not get ND. Charlie gets it and embraces it. He recruits better, coaches better and as a better staff. Yeah this year will have it ups and downs and be very rough, but I expect great things on the horizon.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

Okay, as many of you know I am not a Troll even though I AM from Columbus and a huge Buckeye fan...but I did some research on the two coaches Willingham and Weis and the first two years parallel TO AN EXTENT....Willingham and Weis were both able to take their teams to a New Years day or post-New Years day bowl, they both we named coach of the year by a number of different outlets. The second year both coaches had teams that "underachieved" to most ND fans, Willingham went 5-7 and missed a bowl, Weis went 10-2 in a season that most Irish fans thought would be a National Championship contending team. Willingham's 3rd and final season he went 6-6 and was fired before the Bowl game (Oregon St, Insight Bowl) Weis' is still to be determined.

I see why maybe that this "nojoke" fella said what he did and asked the question, however, I do agree 100% with everyone else on this thread that Weis has made tremendous advancements to getting the Irish in the right spot, this year will be a season that most Irish fans will just want to get through and move on to the following season since the future really is an extremely bright one in South Bend. Weis will NOT be ousted in 3 seasons like Willingham, but he's got to get things rolling next season and the year after because he's finally getting his guys into the system.

I live in Ohio, can't stand OSU, and btw...nojoke has zero basis to make an intelligent argument calling 3 and out on CW. Given our slim senior class and new skill players, its gonna take time. Weis still has 3 years to win big. After that, no mas.

 

[ACamp1900]

Haha. I was wondering how long it would be before someone started a thread like this... Makes for a good laugh. grin:

Yeah I wondered that too... lol... oh well, the reason why Weis will have trouble this year is BECAUSE of Willingham... 90% of the talent on this team is freshman and sophmores...

 

[irishfan_88]

no charlie weis is not on the way out.. willingham in no way compares to weis.. weis's recruiting classes are twice as good as willinghams ever thought about being

 

[notredomer23]

No Joke, here is our senior class on our roster, i guess you have never seen it, considering you are probably from one of the SCUM teams.
Maurice Crum JR
Leo Ferrine
Junior Jabbie
Terrail Lambert
Anthony Vernaginlia

5 people show up on the roster.

if you dont believe me Scout.com: 2007 Notre Dame Roster

 

[big daddy]

Just because we lost the opening game of the season doesn't mean that the coach should be fired. He is recruiting quite well, Jummy didn't come to ND because he loves the university, he came because he knew coach Weis can help him become a better qb. We have to have faith. The season is still young. There are alot of people the call themselves ND fans when the team is winning, but when they lose than the crying begins. A true fan stays loyal when ND wins and when it loses.

 

[ACamp1900]

Okay, as many of you know I am not a Troll even though I AM from Columbus and a huge Buckeye fan...but I did some research on the two coaches Willingham and Weis and the first two years parallel TO AN EXTENT....Willingham and Weis were both able to take their teams to a New Years day or post-New Years day bowl, they both we named coach of the year by a number of different outlets. The second year both coaches had teams that "underachieved" to most ND fans, Willingham went 5-7 and missed a bowl, Weis went 10-2 in a season that most Irish fans thought would be a National Championship contending team. Willingham's 3rd and final season he went 6-6 and was fired before the Bowl game (Oregon St, Insight Bowl) Weis' is still to be determined.

I see why maybe that this "nojoke" fella said what he did and asked the question, however, I do agree 100% with everyone else on this thread that Weis has made tremendous advancements to getting the Irish in the right spot, this year will be a season that most Irish fans will just want to get through and move on to the following season since the future really is an extremely bright one in South Bend. Weis will NOT be ousted in 3 seasons like Willingham, but he's got to get things rolling next season and the year after because he's finally getting his guys into the system.

Nailed it... also Ty would NOT have been fired had he been showing the ability to recruit that Charlie has... although I will say this... Ty's getting blow out every time we played a good team didn't help his cause... and now CW and Ty have that in common... still, recruiting the top TE, QB, DE and such in the country may very well have bought Ty another year...


either way...

Nuck Buckeye Fation

 

[ACamp1900]

NoJoke is from Pittsburgh...

option 1- Mark May like "You ruined my team's 05 title year" Pitt fan/ ND hater
option 2- Typical "CW went for it on fourth down" Cry baby PSU fan


anyone want some action on this one???

 

[Irish93]

C'mon. Not everyone from Pittsburgh is an idiot.

 

[ACamp1900]

C'mon. Not everyone from Pittsburgh is an idiot.

Not what I meant... hope it didn't come off that way... although Steeler fans are a few rivets short of a finished product

 

[goldandblue]

I'm not thinking weis has anything to worry about in say at least the next few years.

 

[Junkhead]

If we lose to Duke, bring it up again. Otherwise, let it go.

 

[quiksilver253]

Is Charlie riding the proverbial " out of dodge bus" that Willingham was placed on? How long will expectations & talk be tolerated? It isn't WHAT YOU SAY but what YOU DO. Charlie has been talking but hasn't produced. Will he get the 3 year "snatch?"

you're an idiot....there is not a chance charlie weiss will get the axe. He has brought notre dame back to it's status as a premier school. plus he has a huge contract, there's no way he's done. he's is probably the best offensive mind in the game, do you really think we'd let hime go? plus with his credentials, he has brought in 3 top 10 recruiting classes. i cant believe we're even having this discussion

 

[Junkhead]

he's is probably the best offensive mind in the game

We need to see this. Again.

 

[Timugen]

Is Charlie riding the proverbial " out of dodge bus" that Willingham was placed on? How long will expectations & talk be tolerated? It isn't WHAT YOU SAY but what YOU DO. Charlie has been talking but hasn't produced. Will he get the 3 year "snatch?"

 

[JustWhatMyEyesSee]

Charlie Weis is a as a human being but a successful coach. The power struggles that occur under the shining dome can often be illogical and even idiotic but I doubt even the trustees would mess this one up. Charlie will be ND coach as long as he is successful and/or doesn't embarrass the school, just like everyone before him. Previous glories mean little - only today matters for a major college coach. It's just that plain and simple.


*You may want to tone it down a little*