2027 Master List

[NDPhilly]

Surprising we haven’t heard more about him. He’s obviously a profile fit.

 

[IrishInOntario]

Surprising we haven’t heard more about him. He’s obviously a profile fit.

ND has quietly been working on this one behind the scenes, but I wasn't sure that he'd pull the trigger on a visit. Reminds me a bit of the Lambert recruitment in that much of it was done quietly, behind the scenes. The difference here is that with NIL full blown, this kid is getting crazy offers from across the country. Hopefully a competitive offer from ND, coupled with their tradition along the OL is enough to vault ND into the lead.

ND should start a collective among their OL graduates in the NFL. Pool their funds to buy future OL for ND.

Career Earnings
Ronnie Stanley: $130.7 Million
Zack Martin: $112.0 Million
Quenton Nelson: $100.8 Million
Mike McGlinchey: $82.0 Million
Aaron Banks: $37.9 Million
Jeff Faine: $35.9 Million
John Sullivan: $35.8 Million
Joe Alt: $33.2 Million
Nick Martin: $25.2 Million
Ryan Harris: $15.1 Million
Robert Hainsey: $14.5 Million
Liam Eichenberg: $11.8 Million

Total: $634.9 Million

Well over half a billion dollars, not counting any investments (of which there will be a lot), nor massive contracts to come (think Alt). This number will be well over $1 Billion in the coming years, with the likes of Schrauth, Knapp, Lambert, Black and Jagusah (if he can get healthy) soon to make a pretty penny as well.

If these guys pooled some pocket change they could buy ND 2 elite OL each year as a nice way of giving back!

 

[ColinKSU]

I also think the QB position for ND is not very lucrative for a 2027 player; this is why Lopati backed off of ND. ND picked Jarrard over all of the 2027 QBs already; he will still be there when the 2027 player arrives on campus. If ND does not land Monds, I think they need to get a Tommy Rees program-type player, then go all in for an elite 2028 QB.

Genuinely don’t think there’s a 2027 QB on the board that will ever take a snap at Notre Dame, and that’s fine. They already have their future after Carr, and there’s always the portal and the 2028 class

 

[allenm5333]

ND has quietly been working on this one behind the scenes, but I wasn't sure that he'd pull the trigger on a visit. Reminds me a bit of the Lambert recruitment in that much of it was done quietly, behind the scenes. The difference here is that with NIL full blown, this kid is getting crazy offers from across the country. Hopefully a competitive offer from ND, coupled with their tradition along the OL is enough to vault ND into the lead.

ND should start a collective among their OL graduates in the NFL. Pool their funds to buy future OL for ND.

Career Earnings
Ronnie Stanley: $130.7 Million
Zack Martin: $112.0 Million
Quenton Nelson: $100.8 Million
Mike McGlinchey: $82.0 Million
Aaron Banks: $37.9 Million
Jeff Faine: $35.9 Million
John Sullivan: $35.8 Million
Joe Alt: $33.2 Million
Nick Martin: $25.2 Million
Ryan Harris: $15.1 Million
Robert Hainsey: $14.5 Million
Liam Eichenberg: $11.8 Million

Total: $634.9 Million

Well over half a billion dollars, not counting any investments (of which there will be a lot), nor massive contracts to come (think Alt). This number will be well over $1 Billion in the coming years, with the likes of Schrauth, Knapp, Lambert, Black and Jagusah (if he can get healthy) soon to make a pretty penny as well.

If these guys pooled some pocket change they could buy ND 2 elite OL each year as a nice way of giving back!

When you mentioned his name a few weeks ago, I felt like you knew something lol

 

[allenm5333]

My top realistic OL for ND in the 2027. I think more highly of his upside than even Albert Simien. Genuine 5 star. Reminds me a lot Guerby Lambert. Obvious left / right tackle prospect that can also slide inside to Guard... Also, a St. Peter's Prep kid from New Jersey.

This is a kid that you write a blank check for (figuratively speaking). If you claim to be a line driven program on both sides of the ball you have to land the nation's very best. Tell the kid to look at ND's OL tradition, then slide the checkbook across to him and don't let him leave South Bend uncommitted, without an NIL deal already in place.

Olobubola
Von Brandt
Halter
Flanigan

That would be an absolutely ridiculous 4 man OL class.

As a sophomore I could easily see...

LT: Will Black
LG: Oluwasemilore Olubobola
C: Cam Herron
RG: Matty Augustine
RT: Grayson Mckeogh

4 absolute mountains. And their pitt bull. Nasty.

Herron would stick out as a midget in this scenario lol

 

[IrishInOntario]

Herron would stick out as a midget in this scenario lol

Yes he would lol!

 

[Rocketman84]

Genuinely don’t think there’s a 2027 QB on the board that will ever take a snap at Notre Dame, and that’s fine. They already have their future after Carr, and there’s always the portal and the 2028 class

Funny you say that because we probably don't have a QB on the current roster behind Carr who will ever take "meaningful" snaps. Something's gotta give but it seems like they're putting almost all the eggs in the Jarrard basket.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Funny you say that because we probably don't have a QB on the current roster behind Carr who will ever take "meaningful" snaps. Something's gotta give but it seems like they're putting almost all the eggs in the Jarrard basket.

I wouldn't go as far as to say we don't have a decent QB behind Carr that won't take meaningful snaps. Fact is both are one snap away from being the guy at this point that will take meaningful snaps. It's a possibility, but the biggest problem I have with the two on the roster is the fact that they are soooo inexperienced, and that doesn't change even with Jarrard in the picture. I understand Minchey wasn't extremely seasoned, but he also had 3 years in the program and even got a little run in a few games as a sophomore. Neither of the two behind CJ from what I saw are game ready and that concerns me. I think I already touched on the fact that if CJ were to go down last year I at least had confidence in Kenny to win games and not have the offense be totally inept. I honestly can't at this point say the same right now. I'm wondering if it is reasonable to look at the portal to find a veteran backup, like they do in the NFL, to be someone we can rely on god forbid CJ is banged up or goes down. I understand in this day in age those guys are few and far between at the college level, but nonetheless.

 

[ColinKSU]

Funny you say that because we probably don't have a QB on the current roster behind Carr who will ever take "meaningful" snaps. Something's gotta give but it seems like they're putting almost all the eggs in the Jarrard basket.

I don't think you're wrong, but I also think most programs would say the same thing about their QB rooms.

 

[AlaskanIrish]

OluOlubobola for the all name team

 

[Rocketman84]

I wouldn't go as far as to say we don't have a decent QB behind Carr that won't take meaningful snaps. Fact is both are one snap away from being the guy at this point that will take meaningful snaps. It's a possibility, but the biggest problem I have with the two on the roster is the fact that they are soooo inexperienced, and that doesn't change even with Jarrard in the picture. I understand Minchey wasn't extremely seasoned, but he also had 3 years in the program and even got a little run in a few games as a sophomore. Neither of the two behind CJ from what I saw are game ready and that concerns me. I think I already touched on the fact that if CJ were to go down last year I at least had confidence in Kenny to win games and not have the offense be totally inept. I honestly can't at this point say the same right now. I'm wondering if it is reasonable to look at the portal to find a veteran backup, like they do in the NFL, to be someone we can rely on god forbid CJ is banged up or goes down. I understand in this day in age those guys are few and far between at the college level, but nonetheless.

Well let me rephrase that "meaningful snaps" into "reliable starter" snaps...Seems we are very complacent with Carr and we haven't went after "Championship" quality guys at the position. If you look at the other top teams QB depth chart most have either an "ELITE" recruit waiting in the wings like St. Clair/Russell/Lacey/Knight or proven transfer like Raiola ready to come in take snaps. If Carr were to go down at any point then I would love to avoid a situation like 2011 when a "predictable" Hendrix (Herbert) or "limited" Rees type (Grubbs) has to go for multiple games.

 

[Rocketman84]

I don't think you're wrong, but I also think most programs would say the same thing about their QB rooms.

Really?? A lot of the top schools (O$U/Bamba/Ole Miss/Texas) have a big time recruit waiting in the wings either as a 2nd or 3rd guy or they have the addition of a transfer QB (Oregon/LSU/Miami) coming in to compete for the job or as the bonafide starter.

 

[Rocketman84]

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Try saying that 4-5x 🤣🤣

 

[rtrn2glory]

Well let me rephrase that "meaningful snaps" into "reliable starter" snaps...Seems we are very complacent with Carr and we haven't went after "Championship" quality guys at the position. If you look at the other top teams QB depth chart most have either an "ELITE" recruit waiting in the wings like St. Clair/Russell/Lacey/Knight or proven transfer like Raiola ready to come in take snaps. If Carr were to go down at any point then I would love to avoid a situation like 2011 when a "predictable" Hendrix (Herbert) or "limited" Rees type (Grubbs) has to go for multiple games.

You don't need to go back that far. Try Drew Pyne in 2022

 

[MeanGreenBeans]

You don't need to go back that far. Try Drew Pyne in 2022

Nope. I've blocked the 2022 season (or at least the QB situation) from my memory.

 

[MrNimbus]

Nope. I've blocked the 2022 season (or at least the QB situation) from my memory.

I was at the Marshall game...that was a difficult day.

 

[TorontoGold]

Well let me rephrase that "meaningful snaps" into "reliable starter" snaps...Seems we are very complacent with Carr and we haven't went after "Championship" quality guys at the position. If you look at the other top teams QB depth chart most have either an "ELITE" recruit waiting in the wings like St. Clair/Russell/Lacey/Knight or proven transfer like Raiola ready to come in take snaps. If Carr were to go down at any point then I would love to avoid a situation like 2011 when a "predictable" Hendrix (Herbert) or "limited" Rees type (Grubbs) has to go for multiple games.

If you extend your process to other top teams it kind of ends after the teams you listed.

Top teams who don’t have the QB depth you want
Miami
Indiana
Michigan
A&M
Georgia
Oklahoma
Alabama (unproven starter and backup)
I would put Texas here too.

So it’s essentially Oregon, OSU, LSU, and Ole Miss. With the exception of OSU, all those schools paid serious coin to bring in future QB’s (Longstreet/Knight/Raiola). With the way ND’s roster is constructed you’d be doing the program a disservice to spend Mylan Graham and Brewu’s money on getting a Deuce Knight.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Plus it's risky to star gaze at the QB position. If it were easy to project success at the QB position it would be much easier for NFL GMs to stay employed. Bottom line is nobody knows what they're getting at QB and all you can do is hope your projections are accurate but I'd say a lot of times they're not.... Even the five star guys, case and point Tyler Buckner

 

[Rocketman84]

You don't need to go back that far. Try Drew Pyne in 2022

Yea I "glossed" over him on purpose but it looks like we're trying to land another guy who played poor competition much like Pyne. 😑😑

 

[MeanGreenBeans]

If we're being honest, was Pyne really that much worse than Buchner? TB was a train wreck of a QB. Pyne was bad yes, but so was the QB room as a whole that year.

 

[Rocketman84]

If you extend your process to other top teams it kind of ends after the teams you listed.

Top teams who don’t have the QB depth you want
Miami
Indiana
Michigan
A&M
Georgia
Oklahoma
Alabama (unproven starter and backup)
I would put Texas here too.

So it’s essentially Oregon, OSU, LSU, and Ole Miss. With the exception of OSU, all those schools paid serious coin to bring in future QB’s (Longstreet/Knight/Raiola). With the way ND’s roster is constructed you’d be doing the program a disservice to spend Mylan Graham and Brewu’s money on getting a Deuce Knight.

Those teams brought in a proven player OR have a big time QB recruit (top 10) waiting in the wings. The other teams just happen to have both!

 

[Rocketman84]

Yes, he was Buchner's potential was very high but was derailed due to coaching/injuries but he showed he could be a playmaker and won MVP in a Bowl game. Pyne's potential left his side after his Soph year in HS and you can't be small, inaccurate, immobile, AND turnover prone. 😳😳

If we're being honest, was Pyne really that much worse than Buchner? TB was a train wreck of a QB. Pyne was bad yes, but so was the QB room as a whole that year.

 

[MeanGreenBeans]

Yes, he was Buchner's potential was very high but was derailed due to coaching/injuries but he showed he could be a playmaker and won MVP in a Bowl game. Pyne's potential left his side after his Soph year in HS and you can't be small, inaccurate, immobile, AND turnover prone. 😳😳

TB is 1-2 inches taller, more inaccurate, and just as turnover prone if not worse. I don't care what derailed TB. At the end of the day, watching him play QB at ND (and Bama) was painful. And that includes the Gator Bowl when he was named MVP but completed around 50% of his passes and threw 3 INTs (2 of them god awful pick 6s).

 

[Rocketman84]

Even if you believed that he's

TB is 1-2 inches taller, more inaccurate, and just as turnover prone. I don't care what derailed TB. At the end of the day, watching him play QB at ND (and Bama) was painful. And that includes the Gator Bowl when he was named MVP but threw 2 god awful pick 6s.

5x the playmaker Pyne could ever be and can actually make plays to win the game and not just play not to lose.

 

[allenm5333]

Kaden Henderson visiting this weekend. I don't think this was planned. Was it?

 

[MeanGreenBeans]

Even if you believed that he's

5x the playmaker Pyne could ever be and can actually make plays to win the game and not just play not to lose.

Proof is in the pudding buddy. Not sure what you were watching, but TB was horrendous. The "playmaker" got replaced quick after playing the best game of his career in the Gator Bowl.

 

[MeanGreenBeans]

Kaden Henderson visiting this weekend. I don't think this was planned. Was it?

Huge. Buy his family a house in South Bend or something. Whatever it takes.

 

[TorontoGold]

Those teams brought in a proven player OR have a big time QB recruit (top 10) waiting in the wings. The other teams just happen to have both!

Those are the starters, and their backups are significant enough to stop them from winning just like ND. I would take Carr over the below starters. ND is IMO in a better position than any of the below in terms of QB, and maybe only behind OSU/Oregon in terms of starting QB talent. If ND doesn't have the 2027 QB in the room then they'll just go to the portal, if Carr gets hurt the season is over anyways.

Indiana - Josh Hoover
Miami - Mensah
Michigan - Underwood
A&M - Reed
Georgia - Stockton
Oklahoma - Mateer
Alabama - Mack/Russell
Texas - Manning

 

[MeanGreenBeans]

Those are the starters, and their backups are significant enough to stop them from winning just like ND. I would take Carr over the below starters. ND is IMO in a better position than any of the below in terms of QB, and maybe only behind OSU/Oregon in terms of starting QB talent. If ND doesn't have the 2027 QB in the room then they'll just go to the portal, if Carr gets hurt the season is over anyways.

Indiana - Josh Hoover
Miami - Mensah
Michigan - Underwood
A&M - Reed
Georgia - Stockton
Oklahoma - Mateer
Alabama - Mack/Russell
Texas - Manning

I'd take Carr over those starters and every other starter in college. And several starters in the NFL.

 

[Rocketman84]

Plus it's risky to star gaze at the QB position. If it were easy to project success at the QB position it would be much easier for NFL GMs to stay employed. Bottom line is nobody knows what they're getting at QB and all you can do is hope your projections are accurate but I'd say a lot of times they're not.... Even the five star guys, case and point Tyler Buckner

Well having all the ingredients (tools)is one thing, but when you have the wrong/bad chef (coaching) cooking then the recipe (results) doesn't come out like it's supposed to...case and point with Buchner