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Branch is wholly unimpressive to me. Hudson was a nice get for PSU

Branch will be a NFLer to return kicks for sure but at WR he’s meh.
Try tackling him in a phone booth... dudes elusive
 

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Beat them?? How so their at completely different schools and all those guys except Jackson was a Freshman this past year.
Beat them in that they are better. Watts, Moore, and Morrison are closer to a championship defensive backfield than any single player they have. Gray too, but he wasn’t a low 4 star
 

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No one lands 4 5 star DBs and 2 4 star DBs in a single class, it's not realistic
Tell that to 'Bama because they landed all those guys in the same class with Jackson being from the portal from U$C, so you better believe it.
 

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Whether you wish to believe that or not, is up to you. Your take is purely speculation.

Jayden Bellamy made the wrong choice for him out of high school, and the depth chart and his '22 DB classmates had very little to do with it.
Certainly not speculation, but if you wanna believe that suit yourself, I mean if your last on the depth chart and then deal with COVID (which he thought about leaving then) do you stay in this modern era right choice or not?? How about Syracuse? Has he went 0-2 in making the roght choice for himself? If you believe that I got a bottle of air to sale you too
 
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Beat them in that they are better. Watts, Moore, and Morrison are closer to a championship defensive backfield than any single player they have. Gray too, but he wasn’t a low 4 star
Watts is a 5th year guy and Morrison a 4th year guy...Moore played well this year but lets hold off comparing 22 and 23 yr olds to 18-19yr olds at least a year or two perhaps, I would expect a defense with basically two Pros to look better.
 

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Certainly not speculation...but if you wanna believe that suit yourself, I mean if your last on the depth chart do you stay in this modern era right choice or not?? How about Syracuse? Has he went 0-2 in making the roght choice for himself? If you believe that I got a bottle of air to sale you too

Syracuse went 9-3 this year. And he was a 19 game starter with the Orangemen in his two seasons there. Whatever his reasons for leaving Syracuse are not the same as why he decided to leave Notre Dame.
 

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Watts is a 5th year guy and Morrison a 4th year guy...Moore played well this year but lets hold off comparing 22 and 23 yr olds to 18-19yr olds at least a year or two perhaps, I would expect a defense with basically two Pros to look better.
Morrison is a junior and … are you saying Notre Dame having future pros is bad? And that Alabama has talent that one day might be good?
 

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Kids these days have no patience but what's really concerning is alot of them don't really care about winning either, just about PT, notoriety and NIL.

Posters these days have no patience to understand the nuance in the lives and circumstances of college athletes navigating tectonic shifts in their sport but what’s really concerning is they don’t even care about the person, just about whinging about all the injustices being done to the poster and looking past the stewards of the sport who have brought the system to this point through their actions and inaction.
 

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I meant a stockpile of talent as opposed to depth, but either way, if we were to ever land a class with four 5* DBs and two 4* DBs it would literally crash this site and maybe break the internet lol. Leonard Moore played very well as a Fr but over there he wouldn't have saw the field, but alot of players particularly DBs fly under the radar if they dont attend a few camps and get verifable numbers on them, he was a legit 4* caliber player (Comp) with good size and tremendous length and All District in Tx...I take my chances with the TX guys and only wish we recruited it as well as when Davie was here. Heard was very solid as I would expect a

I meant a stockpile of talent as opposed to depth, but either way, if we were to ever land a class with four 5* DBs and two 4* DBs it would literally crash this site and maybe break the internet lol. Leonard Moore played very well as a Fr but over there he wouldn't have saw the field, but alot of players particularly DBs fly under the radar if they dont attend a few camps and get verifable numbers on them, he was a legit 4* caliber player (Comp) with good size and tremendous length and All District in Tx...I take my chances with the TX guys and only wish we recruited it as well as when Davie was here. Heard was ok, but nothing spectacular considering hecs a 5th yr guy, I'd rather have a young elite/blue chip prospect to develop. I liked JC better and I believe we have a stud in Shuler.

So here’s the situation you’re posing essentially, would you rather:

A) recruit at an elite level, lose significant talent annually and dip into the portal if needed

B) recruit at a good level and lose minimal talent annually and dip into the portal if needed.


ND has, in the secondary, done B at an off the charts elite level. Alabama under Saban did A at an off the charts elite level. Nobody is doing it that way currently, even UGA has fallen off recently at this level of depth stockpiling. You can say Bama just did it, but it hasn’t produced results yet of the previous regime. I’d rather keep doing B than pretend to expect A. We can’t do A. And I don’t know if anyone can anymore.
 
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Watts is a 5th year guy and Morrison a 4th year guy...Moore played well this year but lets hold off comparing 22 and 23 yr olds to 18-19yr olds at least a year or two perhaps, I would expect a defense with basically two Pros to look better.
You compared their secondary to ours, that’s how this conversation started. Morrison is a third year guy. Our secondary is better and deeper than theirs. Comparing their star ratings to ours doesn’t change that
 

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I meant a stockpile of talent as opposed to depth, but either way, if we were to ever land a class with four 5* DBs and two 4* DBs it would literally crash this site and maybe break the internet lol. Leonard Moore played very well as a Fr but over there he wouldn't have saw the field, but alot of players particularly DBs fly under the radar if they dont attend a few camps and get verifable numbers on them, he was a legit 4* caliber player (Comp) with good size and tremendous length and All District in Tx...I take my chances with the TX guys and only wish we recruited it as well as when Davie was here. Heard was very solid as I would expect a

I meant a stockpile of talent as opposed to depth, but either way, if we were to ever land a class with four 5* DBs and two 4* DBs it would literally crash this site and maybe break the internet lol. Leonard Moore played very well as a Fr but over there he wouldn't have saw the field, but alot of players particularly DBs fly under the radar if they dont attend a few camps and get verifable numbers on them, he was a legit 4* caliber player (Comp) with good size and tremendous length and All District in Tx...I take my chances with the TX guys and only wish we recruited it as well as when Davie was here. Heard was ok, but nothing spectacular considering hecs a 5th yr guy, I'd rather have a young elite/blue chip prospect to develop. I liked JC better and I believe we have a stud in Shuler.
I don’t think you understand football at all. I liked you better when you were crying about Micah Bell
 

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Syracuse went 9-3 this year. And he was a 19 game starter with the Orangemen in his two seasons there. Whatever his reasons for leaving Syracuse are not the same as why he decided to leave Notre Dame.
Capiche, just wait until you see his next selection, then we'll revisit this😉
 

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You compared their secondary to ours, that’s how this conversation started. Morrison is a third year guy. Our secondary is better and deeper than theirs. Comparing their star ratings to ours doesn’t change that
I dont think you were in the conversation but the convo started because I said that a few school had stockpiles of depth (I meant talent 5*/4*) in the secondary, the word "depth" thru it off but it was based off talking about UGA, Bama and O$U talent in the secondary not Notre Dame. Why would I compare this veteran led secondary to a bunch of Freshman, you missed all the context in regards to talent and recruiting the position.
 
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I don’t think you understand football at all. I liked you better when you were crying about Micah Bell
Riiiight of all the people I don't?? Thats funny, you dont have a clue. Micah Bell would've been solid if he stuck around, I did like his potential on offense better than defense but it is what it is.
 

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So here’s the situation you’re posing essentially, would you rather:

A) recruit at an elite level, lose significant talent annually and dip into the portal if needed

B) recruit at a good level and lose minimal talent annually and dip into the portal if needed.


ND has, in the secondary, done B at an off the charts elite level. Alabama under Saban did A at an off the charts elite level. Nobody is doing it that way currently, even UGA has fallen off recently at this level of depth stockpiling. You can say Bama just did it, but it hasn’t produced results yet of the previous regime. I’d rather keep doing B than pretend to expect A. We can’t do A. And I don’t know if anyone can anymore.
B...all day errday! High school kids are a coin toss, and portal players you get data at a high level.
 

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You're not getting either of those guys without a transfer portal QB.
Bingo! I'm so sure Branch or a Ryan Williams would come to ND (for a year)....with the understanding that Carr (relax, just for my story) was a pretty good high school football player in Michigan.
 

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Geeze LSU is killing it in the portal just landed Nic Anderson I guess money goes a long ways I wouldn’t wanna play for Kelly
 

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The smoke is getting thicker for sure. Bama lost 4 WR to the portal, and all signs point to the Draft or the portal for Milroe. I went back and watched the OU game, the WRs were God awful and the Eli Bowen int wasn't Milroe fault either, WR just whiffed on the main block. That bad call TD throw he had to Williams is a throw I haven't seen by a ND QB since maybe Golson...maybe....rolling right, back foot 55 yard dime. We land Milroe and a stud WR. Not only will we be a top 3 fave to win it all, Denbrock may see his guy win another Heisman.
Buchner could absolutely throw a 55 yrd dime of his back foot rolling right. He was fucking elite with that ball
 

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Same as last year, and the year before. The suffer losses, they do their best to fill them. And they are one of the middest bigger brand programs since Kelly got there.
None of these guys are bonafide steals from other schools either.

Every ND board would rather take 5 SEC backups than 5 productive All-Conference G5 guys
 
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