2007 Recruiting Grocery List

[guff]

just a feeling here, but I would bet my house that Claussen will be the first 2007 verb, and i would bet the announcment of it comes very quickly after signing day

So tell me more about the house I will be living in - good schools? low crime rate? convenient location? My guess is he gives a verbal at the start of his season at the earliest. And I think he has California written all over him.

Aside from that, he is mechanically as good as there has been coming out of HS.

That's what has me thinking. Has Clausen peaked? Are all the other kids that are getting done on raw talent going to catch up to him when the they get the coaching and training that Clausen has been privileged to? And what if he has some bad habits trained into him?

My point is that Clausen is not Notre Dame's next saviour. Sure it would be nice to have him but not getting him is not the end of the world. I'm pretty satisfied with the future of ND's QB position. ND doesn't need the next Peyton Manning. ND needs the next Julius Peppers.

 

[scooper]

ND needs the next Julius Peppers.

You're right, but this isn't the NFL draft where you have to choose between the two. Landing a great QB doesn't mean you can't also land the great DL.

 

[skijhill]

I dont think everyone relizes just how important Clausen is...He has so much hype(had ESPN specials about him), everybody knows him...including all the recruits. Great players want to play with Great players(case in point A. Benn, he said that him and clausen were talking about the possibility of playing with each other.) Jimmy will have a huge ripple effect for the 2007 recruiting class, that is why I am glad that ND is not getting Mustain, because hes one player...getting Clausen is an almost gaurentee of getting a class full of studs.

Well said IrishFan. While the hype may not be the say all tell all in spotting truly exceptional palyers; it can also help reel in new recuits over the next few years.

 

[irishwavend]

Wow...the neglect to mention Weis here is appalling. I think in reading all four pages straight through, there was zero mention of Weis developing players. We want Jimmy for the hype...to say he peaked is assinine, because there is no way that a HS kid can go right into playing in the NFL. Are you telling me Weis can't teach this kid anymore and that he is ready to take Tom Brady's spot or even Brady Quinn's spot? Think not... Weis teaches, so the kid will pick up whatever, and if not, we have Sharpley, Wolke, Frazer, and Jones. I'm not worried. If I remember correctly, Joe Montana was a 5th stringer. And having a ton of QBs is not bad either. 85 scholarship players means 4 full offense/ defense teams with even distribution. With Charlie's efficiency, I almost wouldn't put it past him to have two full scrimmages going on at the same time (i might be exaggerating a little) Imagine, however, that the man's organization allows him to do two full scrimmages. In one scrimmage, you have a drop back system being practiced. In the other scrimmage, you have a faster option attack/ DART system being run with QBs like Jones. We have 2 full offenses that run totally separate packages. Then, we have our defenses switch scrimmages in the middle of Team. Tell me what university could stop ND, then. And, I don't think it is unreasonable to think that Charlie could pull this off. First quarter, we run drop back offense. 2nd quarter, jones and the boys run a different attack...then, at halftime, the opposing team has nooooo clue what to adjust to. HA! Imagine THAT chaos!

 

[BGIF]

Imagine that the NCAA allows 20 hours a week for practice.

The Leahy days of unlimited practice are gone.

Practices are scripted and timed to the second. And all those seconds are needed. Weis commented on HIM having so much more time since practice (contact time) is so short in college compared to the NFL. The downside is he has to compress that Patriot Playbook and instill that information into developing athletes who carry an ND academic load as opposed to dealing with highly trained and experienced professionals with undivided time.

The unlimited coaching staffs are gone too. I think 9 coaching assistants are the NCAA max. You may recall last Spring when Cutcliffe had heart surgery, Weis requested an NCAA waiver to allow Powlus to be a temporary on-field assistant. When Vaas was hired Powlus went back to a desk job. He would have been beneficial helping on the field but it would have been an NCAA violation too many coaches on the field.

Do you think you can run 2 meaningful scrimmages simultaneously with 2 coaches per side? That's if all your athletes are healthy enough to play (they won't be) and nobody has a class (remember Holloway not starting because he missed practices due to a class conflict?). And even with a healthy team your still short as the 85 is 3 short of your 88 and you'd have all the kickers playing offense or defense.

Nice though but not workable with today's rules and ND's constraints.

 

[jiggafini19]

Charlie Weis has coached one season. I think he has only had a hand in developing anyone right now, at least at the college level.

I haven't really had the chance to see him develop anyone yet. What I did see was one hell of a makeover.

I'm calling this year's group his first "true" recruiting class because last year he was performing major patch work. By the time these guys are a few years in, we'll see what Weis can do in terms of fully developing players.

 

[irishwavend]

Imagine that the NCAA allows 20 hours a week for practice.

The Leahy days of unlimited practice are gone.

Practices are scripted and timed to the second.

I know exactly how practices work having been part of those practices for two different universities. What you are allowed to do is split the players. You could have one practice say from 2-4 for one set of players and another from 5-7 for the other set...perfectly legal since it is a 20 hour limit on the players, not the coach.

When it rained and U of Memphis had to go inside, they only had 50 yards to work with unlike the field we have at loftus, so they brought offense in for one practice and then defense in for another full practice.

With regards to health, we just do what Nebraska does...have a huge number of walk ons. One, the campus is athletic enough to, and two, do you know how many people would love just to be on practice squad? They could be fill ins for those positions lacking. Anyway, this is really beside the point, because it would take quite a bit to pull off, but I am saying that it could, in essence, be done.

 

[irishwavend]

Didn't see the kicker part, too. 22 is what is needed to scrimmage, so two scrimmages would be 44 players. Actually, the more I look at this...it is actually quite workable, plus it would give the guys lower on the depth chart quite a bit more personalized time with the coaches. Shit, sign me up Army, we are going straight to the top, baby! Hahaha.