‘18 IN DL Braden Fiske (Florida State Verbal)

[T-Boone]

Yeah it’s been reported it’s NIL. He was absolutely a take for ND.

He is saying it was the coach.

 

[Irishnuke]

He is saying it was the coach.

He’s definitely not going to tell people he went to the highest bidder.

 

[stlnd01]

He’s definitely not going to tell people he went to the highest bidder.

Yep. Florida State has good coaches and is on the rise. Same as Notre Dame. But one's willing to pay him upfront and the other isn't.

 

[GATTACA!]

Watchout the ND NIL and pay for play naysayers will say that he wasn't.
Just like when we loose someone because our f.u.n.d.s are low and ND can't come up with clever ways of getting players on board, they do the blame the players and call them bag chasers. Notre Dame is hoarding their funds and profits that the football program make and refuse to compete.

f.u.n.d.s are low
And competitive pay for elite recruits and transfers are not competitive

ND Alumni and fans are just fine with it. Blame everything but reality.
Here's the reality, this team won't be competitive and the NCAA isn't going to get reigned in, so that won't save ND Football either. Don't rip on kids for taking large sums of money. Business moves. Just like ND pinches it's pennies with ND Football profits.

Sick of the admin, NIL BOT apologists

bUt ItS nOt aN NiL IsSuE!! ItS p4P!!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

 

[Free Manera]

He is saying it was the coach.

It is. The coach that got him the most money

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

One more reason to question the hire of Al Washington. Starting to think the OSU fans were on to something here.

 

[NDFAN2008]

One more reason to question the hire of Al Washington. Starting to think the OSU fans were on to something here.

How is this Washington’s fault? We were the only team who got a sack on 30% of our pass rushes last year only power 5 team to do that.

 

[NDFAN2008]

At the end of the day you can have the best coaching staff in America and best recruiters but that ain’t gonna help trump teams throwing millions at players. ND should have a special fund or something generated for 5 star or highly ranked kids. They need to figure out something quick or they’ll be stuck in mediocrity

 

[MacIrish75]

How is this Washington’s fault? We were the only team who got a sack on 30% of our pass rushes last year only power 5 team to do that.

Washington apparently didn’t try hard enough to entice him with an envelope full of cash or something like that…

 

[FDNYIrish1]

I heard it’s because Florida has no state income tax.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

How is this Washington’s fault? We were the only team who got a sack on 30% of our pass rushes last year only power 5 team to do that.

On field: D line was the most disappointing group of the year and had a ton of talent.

Off field: who is his biggest recruiting win so far? Boubacar? Vernon was committed before Washington got here, Mukam is a project as is Houston.

Contrast that with what Stuckey has done so far at WR both on field and off. I'm not saying I want Washington fired, but he needs to have a really strong 2023 imo.

 

[irish o'phile]

I miss the good ol’ days when if someone chose FSU or a similar school, we would talk crap about them just wanting to party, say they weren’t serious about education, question their overall character, and maybe say they were poorly parented. Now we just blame NIL for everything. It’s way less fun.

 

[NDFAN2008]

On field: D line was the most disappointing group of the year and had a ton of talent.

Off field: who is his biggest recruiting win so far? Boubacar? Vernon was committed before Washington got here, Mukam is a project as is Houston.

Contrast that with what Stuckey has done so far at WR both on field and off. I'm not saying I want Washington fired, but he needs to have a really strong 2023 imo.

We were 18th in the nation in team sacks last year

 

[stlnd01]

On field: D line was the most disappointing group of the year and had a ton of talent.

Off field: who is his biggest recruiting win so far? Boubacar? Vernon was committed before Washington got here, Mukam is a project as is Houston.

Contrast that with what Stuckey has done so far at WR both on field and off. I'm not saying I want Washington fired, but he needs to have a really strong 2023 imo.

You're familiar with our linebackers and our entire passing offense?

We certainly had a good pass rush. Run defense a little more hit-or-miss. Either way he inherited a bunch of veterans. This year will tell us more as the next wave of players develops. Recruiting kind of same. I wouldn't necessarily blame Washington for Keeley flipping, for instance. But it'd be nice to land Davis-Swain or the kid Scott from Chicago.

None of this is at all why Fiske went to FSU.

 

[NDFAN2008]

18th last year in sacks and that’s playing one less game than most teams

 

[lcaps20]

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You're familiar with our linebackers and our entire passing offense?

We certainly had a good pass rush. Run defense a little more hit-or-miss. Either way he inherited a bunch of veterans. This year will tell us more as the next wave of players develops. Recruiting kind of same. I wouldn't necessarily blame Washington for Keeley flipping, for instance. But it'd be nice to land Davis-Swain or the kid Scott from Chicago.

None of this is at all why Fiske went to FSU.

I think it's time to move on from the kid in Chicago based on the latest rumblings. Seems like he will be another NIL causality.

 

[Sea Turtle]

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I think it's time to move on from the kid in Chicago based on the latest rumblings. Seems like he will be another NIL causality.

Why would he go elsewhere for a million or so when he could come here and have peace of mind at a school that does NIL the way it was intended?

 

[IrishMoore1]

Why would he go elsewhere for a million or so when he could come here and have peace of mind at a school that does NIL the way it was intended?

Is this a rhetorical question? He would go elsewhere because it's $1 million dollars.

 

[ThePiombino]

Is this a rhetorical question? He would go elsewhere because it's $1 million dollars.

Fairly certain he was being facetious

 

[irishfan]

Did this guy look at any other schools in the Midwest? If he actually cared about staying close to home, wouldn’t he have looked at some B1G schools as well? Seems like his top 3 very quickly became ND, FSU, USC. I’m not seeing this as the NIL failure that others are. I would never expect us to be out-bidding those two for a DL and there is probably an easier path to playing time at both FSU and USC. Every report is that we got outbid and I don’t dispute that. I do question the narrative we were his easy favorite going into this and that he’d be here if it weren’t for NIL.

As an aside, I also question how good he actually is. He’s somehow 1 of 3 WMU DLs to be transferring to a P5 program. This 5-7 MAC team had that much talent?

 

[INLaw]

The people who are paid to know, Are telling you its all P4P acquisition fee. What’s with the weird non NIL rationalizations? A kid from Michigan City picks FSU and who is confused by that ? I mean if it’s not that then fuck Fire Washington.

 

[Dale]

FSU has turned a DL transfer into a 1st round pick in back to back years. It’s almost blind ND homerism/arrogance to act like it has to be 100% NIL. NIL puts battles like these over the top for the winners. It was not the only reason he’s going there.

Similar to Keeley in that respect, y’all really gonna ride with oh he’d be at ND if it wasn’t for NIL when he ended up at ALABAMA. Alabama! NIL is how you make a coin flip go in your favor, but the school opposite ND has plenty of other pros to their pitch.

Deciding factor =\= Only or sole or even main factor

 

[Grahambo]

FSU has turned a DL transfer into a 1st round pick in back to back years. It’s almost blind ND homerism/arrogance to act like it has to be 100% NIL. NIL puts battles like these over the top for the winners. It was not the only reason he’s going there.

Similar to Keeley in that respect, y’all really gonna ride with oh he’d be at ND if it wasn’t for NIL when he ended up at ALABAMA. Alabama! NIL is how you make a coin flip go in your favor, but the school opposite ND has plenty of other pros to their pitch.

Deciding factor =\= Only or sole or even main factor

And for a kid who spent years at Western Michigan, it’s not a terrible idea to spend a year in Florida.

 

[MacIrish75]

And for a kid who spent years at Western Michigan, it’s not a terrible idea to spend a year in Florida.

…A kid who spent 18 years in Michigan freaking City prior to that lol.

 

[Grahambo]

…A kid who spent 18 years in Michigan freaking City prior to that lol.

Man taking a year long vacation.

Even if ND matched, it’d be hard to turn down the FSU offer.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

We were 18th in the nation in team sacks last year

That's one barometer and has more to do with the talent than the coaching. Did you forget how OSU marched the length of the field, mostly running, in the 4th quarter for the TD drive?

Washington has a lot of work to do in 2023 because he's losing high end talent

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

You're familiar with our linebackers and our entire passing offense?

We certainly had a good pass rush. Run defense a little more hit-or-miss. Either way he inherited a bunch of veterans. This year will tell us more as the next wave of players develops. Recruiting kind of same. I wouldn't necessarily blame Washington for Keeley flipping, for instance. But it'd be nice to land Davis-Swain or the kid Scott from Chicago.

None of this is at all why Fiske went to FSU.

Pretty much my point. He needs some strong wins in recruiting and needs to develop young talent and a pass rush on the D line.

 

[irishff1014]

That's one barometer and has more to do with the talent than the coaching. Did you forget how OSU marched the length of the field, mostly running, in the 4th quarter for the TD drive?

Washington has a lot of work to do in 2023 because he's losing high end talent

I think everyone would say Washington had an ok season. He wasn’t hired to have an ok season.

 

[NDFAN2008]

That's one barometer and has more to do with the talent than the coaching. Did you forget how OSU marched the length of the field, mostly running, in the 4th quarter for the TD drive?

Washington has a lot of work to do in 2023 because he's losing high end talent

All the high end talent we lost recruiting so far has been to NIL that has nothing to do with Washington

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

All the high end talent we lost recruiting so far has been to NIL that has nothing to do with Washington

I was referring to the talent ND is losing on the dline after this season, but he needs to step his game up recruiting too. NIL stuff isn't slowing down Stuckey, Deland or Hiestand.