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I don't agree with that. The football playoff is much smaller than the basketball tournament, relative to the number of teams. Football has 12 teams among 136 FBS teams. So 9%. Basketball has 68 teams among 363 D1 programs. So 19%. If we had 19% of FBS teams in the playoff (26) letting the...

I'm not that salty about 1993, I was two and not an ND fan yet. But yeah, 1993 is directly relevant because some people are acting like there is a "rule" that the head-to-head winner must be ahead where two teams have the same number of losses. This isn't a rule, because it were, 1993 would not...

Again, 1993. This is only a "rule" when it hurts ND. As for MF, I agree the team and coaches performed badly in the first two games. But I would like to hear about the last time ND -or any team- played the toughest two opponents the first two games of the year. That is extremely unusual. OSU...

Can we put an odds to miss tracker on the main site? Like how CNN had their Covid tracker? I don't think we're getting enough updates on the odds here.

They didn't pursue Hartline but they are looking at Rees? Huh?

People talking about the committee's "rules"- there are no rules. They will just do something, and then come up with a justification. Do I want to eat another piece of Christmas cake, or not? If I do? Well, it's Christmas. If I don't? I'm on a diet. Etc.

In fairness, the advanced stats often have SEC teams with bad records more highly ranked than other teams. For example, Sagarin has Auburn at 26 despite being 5-7, which is ahead of Pitt at 30, for example. But neither ND nor Miami moved up after beating Pitt decisively. And of course ND is #2...

Yeah, but it's about protecting the SEC. Clay Travis said the SEC "wouldn't allow" Bama to be left out because they lost the CCG. I didn't realize the SEC made these decisions? Well, based on the new rankings, they appear to do.

This is why we need a computer ranking. A computer wouldn't play games like this. Obviously the formula would be the subject of debate, as the BCS formula was. But it is preferable to this circus, where we don't know what actually matters, rankings randomly change for no reason, there are silly...

Did it also get voted America's most interesting city? And least snowy city?

I didn't realize that the CFP chair (who was super impressed that Alabama needed a late 4th and whatever conversion to beat 5-7 Auburn) is the Arkansas AD. Is that correct? And don't conference members making/advancing in the playoffs financially benefit all the other members via the payouts...

Yeah, but its possible they think ND is better than Miami but since Miami won head-to-head, they want to wait to flip them until Miami is right behind ND. So the committee isn't giving the head-to-head excessive weight and only pushes Miami above ND when they are already right behind them.

I never called anyone a "bedwetter"; I assumed our odds were 80% or so even going 10-2, and getting left out was a decent possibility. But some IE posters really, really want everyone to know how (presumably) right they were about this. Maybe let it go?

That's going to change next year? I don't follow this stuff closely.

If we're out I will be rooting for OSU. The SEC propaganda is insane. Screw the ACC for their bizarre tiebreakers + NCSU not being a conference game + campaigning. And, candidly, I don't want IU to win a title before we win (another) one.

The vibe is we're probably out but who knows. The committee just makes a decision and then there is a post-hoc justification that makes no sense.

I think this year is unusual because of the higher than normal number of 10-2 teams, and because ND lost to the two best teams on its schedule, such that they can take spots from ND. If we were 10-2 but had lost to USC and Boise State or something I bet we're in, even if we're still behind an...

I agree. Win and don't give them a choice. The lacrosse team got screwed in 2022 and then won two titles in a row.

I guess that's the 2026 schedule

Yeah, I mean, it's "over" as the kids say