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Then what exactly are you saying? Why bring up that shitbag tangent if it didn't really factor into the whole admissions discussion?

So because Vanderbilt admitted guys who would eventually go on to rape, threaten to rape or commit various felonies, that is an indictment on their admission process? You realize that ND has admitted those type of guys before. Does Cierre Wood ring any bells? There's no telling what a guy is...

No. Bears have way more needs at positions with higher shelf lives. Bijan looks like a stud in the making, but RB is just not a premium position, especially for a top 10 pick. Those rarely yield long-term results for the team picking the back.

Cal did, but I don't think that is the case anymore. I don't recall UCLA ever being notorious for taking in dubious students. They're also both public schools with student populations several times bigger than ND's. You're also going to have a pretty tough time selling the idea that...

Probably indication that they feel really good about Khalil Herbert in an increased role. Monty at 6 per year is pretty reasonable, but it may just be a situation where they preferred getting Herbert more reps and filling the #2 spot via a mid-late draft pick.

The problem I have with this, and don't get me wrong, it's definitely a realistic scenario that Hillman legit just tanked hard and didn't clear admissions at ND. But how does that square with schools like UVA, Michigan and fucking Vanderbilt offering him? Were they just shooting first and...

Well yeah, but that doesn't refute his point. Louisville was never a title contender when Lamar Jackson was there, but you can bet your ass that if ND had Jackson in 2017, they'd be a legit playoff team. The team absolutely matters, but you need talented individuals to make up the foundation...

1) If this were true, why would Freeman and Co. want it out that ND could have made it work but chose not to? That doesn't benefit anybody. 2) I fail to see how a coach had any say in the admissions process. Either ND admits him or they don't. Freeman isn't part of that decision. Overall...

It is, but apparently it was one that ND could have chosen to make work and they decided it wasn't worth the effort. If the admin is trying to give the impression they're giving Freeman as much help as possible, they're doing a shitty job.

That tells me that either the Bears are definitely going defense at 9, or they have given up on Jenkins completely.

Kelly lost to Tulsa and Navy in year 1. Kelly lost to Duke, Michigan State and Navy in year 7. Not exactly a silver bullet against Freeman.

Once again, you continue to ignore the elephant in the room. N. I. L. It's not even remotely debatable. For you to say it is just "making excuses" is insanely ignorant. Oh, stop making excuses for a coach who is a great recruiter who is hamstrung by the fact that he can't offer recruits...

Congratulations. As a result of their 'compromise', Michigan is still a top 25 university nationwide. I doubt it's made any sort of legitimate impact on their credentials in the slightest. The fact that Michigan is willing to make it work but ND is not, isn't an indication of superiority...

You continue to ignore the problem. Freeman's primary strength is being blocked heavily by NIL. That problem isn't going away if Freeman is let go. Until ND addresses this problem, it's going to continue to be an issue. Stuff like what's happening with Hillman only helps to exacerbate the...

ND needs a lot of help at safety, so losing the guy who many thought was one of the highest upside players in the class, and one who could fill in at safety (a position of significant need) is a pretty big deal. It's especially bad because of ND's inability to hit the transfer portal hard. So...

My response re: NIL had nothing to do with Hillman. I was referring to people trying to compare Kelly to Freeman and saying that if he doesn't win like Kelly, that isn't an indictment on ND, but on Freeman. I said that the fact that NIL is a thing makes things that much more difficult for...

No I'm not. That's an assumption on your end. NIL has changed things drastically and not for ND's benefit. Period.

Again, you can't compare Freeman to Kelly because the landscape is just wildly different. Freeman has all the challenges that Kelly had to deal with but added to that is the massive elephant in the room that is NIL. It has been a massive hindrance to ND and has helped mitigate arguably...

I disagree. Freeman is clearly putting in the effort to land top level recruits, something Kelly never did. But the landscape of CFB is drastically different than it was even just 5 years ago. Freeman's effort is being mitigated by the rise of NIL and it doesn't seem like ND is willing to...

No. I would lose any and all respect for the kid if he did that.