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Or our peers seem to be more flexible with admitting students. Seems like Vanderbilt and Michigan have found a way to make it work without it compromising their academic prestige. Maybe something ND should jump on sometime this century...

Far more credible opinions than ours tend to disagree.

1) If that were the case, then nobody on this site would be in a position to argue ANYTHING regarding ND, the administration or the football program. Yet, here we are. That's the point of this site. Provide your opinion on things re: ND and ND football. 2) It ABSOLUTELY is a problem that it's...

Because whatever was required for Hillman to be admitted was not an issue for the other elite universities. If he can get in to Vanderbilt, Michigan, Virginia and the like, we shouldn't be having to jump through hoops to get him in. It also extends out to the overlapping problem that this...

This is entirely my point. Whatever the reason is that he couldn't get accepted to ND, wasn't an issue with virtually every single other elite university. You can write off US News reports, but there's a reason why those schools are where they are. We can sit back and continue to believe...

Who said anything about lowering standards? If we're talking admissions, that already happens, but ND should be more flexible. I've said over and over again that ND shouldn't abandon their expectations for their players when they get admitted. However, if ND is requiring students meet a...

Hillman himself indicated that ND had requirements for him to be admitted that he could not meet.

I repeat. If ND is requiring a player do something to gain admittance that no other peer program is requiring, that is a problem. If Vanderbilt, Michigan and Virginia can find a way to make it work, then ND can. And by all accounts they could have and chose not to. Also, this notion that...

The admin isn't intentionally bombing Freeman's tenure. But one has to ask this. Hillman had to get something done to get admitted to ND. That didn't happen. Whatever that thing was that didn't happen wasn't an obstacle for virtually every other school that offered him. So the question...

That is not the fanbase I signed up to be a part of. As a ND fan, I demand elite from all aspects. I demand that ND's administration do EVERYTHING in its power to accomplish the mission. ND hamstringing personnel and not being willing to back up the NIL effort run in direct contrast to that...

ND not budging on this is just another example of ND not willing to commit to winning. There's some things that ND won't and shouldn't budge on. But if they're able to make it work that they can get somebody in who can get admitted to Michigan or Vanderbilt without issue, then there's no...

If I'm Freeman, I expect if my school can make it work, that they make it f*cking work. Again, Freeman was about as diligent in having every contingency possible at safety. He got not 1, but 2 contingency plans in Minich and Hillman for the potential of losing Bowen, and he wound up losing...

I mean, what options does Marcus Freeman have in that case? Hillman was a late offer, so there isn't exactly a lot of time to adjust. Not to mention, Hillman was a backup plan due to Bowen wavering. Freeman has to believe that his bosses will do something to back him up. Doesn't help to know...

No, that's not how it works. The old saying goes, "shit rolls down hill". This would be another story if it were due to assistants not putting in the effort and Freeman wasn't holding them accountable like Kelly. That isn't the case here. Freeman's efforts on the trail are being impeded...

Kelly didn't have to deal with the elephant in the room of NIL. And compounded to that is the reality that ND could have made this work and chose not to. None of that is on Freeman. He should expect his bosses to back him up. ND as an administration has to be held accountable for that.

He is insanely underrated. He is as good a prospect as Scott. Him being ranked as low as he is right now is laughable. Dude is a stud.

I'm not sweating this too much, because ND is looking very good for Lindsey. As long as they get 1 of 2, that's great to me. If they end up with both, even better.

Whatever dude. Don't blame me when you opened this can of worms up and did a shit job defending it.

I read those posts. I'm not putting words in your mouth, but I, like others on here, are not buying what you're selling. You've basically anchored yourself to the idea that Vanderbilt is willing to accept several shit-bag semi-illiterate student athletes. But your basis for this is that you...

That's a lot of ifs. I can see Hartman being a stud as advertised and Price recovering fully. Botelho could explode, because he looked to have emerged late last year. But Rubio and Kollie, along with couple more DBs all becoming elite is probably a stretch. And Rubio becoming elite is...