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I can't honestly fathom what the kid is thinking right now. He's had it rough the past few months. Yeah, he kind of screwed himself with the whole hat debacle, but it was pretty clear his mom and dad were not on the same page at all with his recruitment. Then there was his sister's death...

You're not absolving him of blame, but you've yet to provide ANY sort of logic that supports the idea that he should be blamed for what happened last year at Safety. The difference between the situation with O'Leary and Del is that O'Leary and Freeman made sure they had contingencies for the...

The problem is that this isn't really the place to be arguing that. ND has won more than their fair share of recruiting battles with Michigan. Also just to emphasize, Carr > Davis. I don't think it's even really that tough a choice.

What exactly does that accomplish? You tell him he can't visit elsewhere, and he still decommits. And making demands like that only serves to make you look bad down the road with other kids. It wasn't like receiver in '22, where they sat on recruiting after getting 3 guys, 2 of which were...

JoJo was a very late take in '21 and never visited. Tae has been pursued for a while, was told he needed to take care of things academically, and did. To me, I don't see them as similar. Tae may not have been in good enough academic standing to get admitted, but he clearly cares about getting...

Which is why they pursued Minich and Hillman. Again, I don't know what else you wanted them to do? They knew Bowen was a flight risk and they pursued contingency plans. It's not their fault one of the contingencies couldn't get into school.

Tae is A LOT bigger than JoJo.

I don't imagine we'll have anything substantive until it actually happens.

Yep. This coming from somebody who liked Wafle and I don't really agree with moving on from him, but it's pretty clear that the coaches were looking for more of a NT body for that slot. People need to remember that Bryce Young had been recruited as a Vyper/End for a while. Then he showed up to...

Big swing and a miss. ND needs to close on some of those guys you mentioned, though the list is far bigger than just those names. But to say we're recruiting like Ty is a painfully dubious claim, at best.

I know it's the typical "fan" thing to say your guys are underrated, but it's baffling to me how many of the guys in this '24 class whose ratings are an absolute joke. On3 in particular has some downright putrid rankings. Carr at 193? Bruh, what? This is what happens when you drunk eval. He is...

I don't track the AZ guys, so I'll take your word for it. But what I've read from the ND beat has been about par for the course. ND was a player for Rushing, but nobody was willing to stick their neck out and say they lead.

Looking at it, I agree. I think ND took guys like Mukam, Traore and Vernon, because ND needs size at both big end and 3T. All three of them can play either spot in a 3-man front defense. We're used to having a 4-2-5 style front, where the big end is probably around 250-270. But in a 3-3-5/3-4...

Something something broken clock.

Wasn't Cole Luke from AZ?

Williams is a Vyper, and ND has 2 in fold already. For me, I'm all about take 'em all, but I see the logic there. I'm still kind of perplexed at letting Wafle go. Yeah, you may get Scott, but you also may not get him. Now you're relying on Young getting big enough to play 3T, but then you have...

I don't think any expert was saying we led. Most of what I read was that ND was in a good spot, but the general sentiment was nobody was betting against the field.

Strange, ISD made it sound like Jordan wasn't even on the table. I really think Nike or Jordan is the way to go. UA is just not working out and their stock keeps plummeting, there's just no excitement around the brand and it's a harder sell. ND may want to be seen as the flagship school for...

I suppose, but Rezac needs to grow into LB size before him moving to Vyper is a possibility. Also, Vyper seems to be good right now with Thomas and Mullins. ND needs, IMO, at least 1 more guy who can play SDE, because Young is probably going to outgrow end. But it's all projections at this...

You're not wrong. I wouldn't say I'm bedwetting about the DL recruiting situation, but I am questioning why we'd settle on such a low number, when last year's class was also pretty low at 4 or 5 (depending on what happens with Zinter). 4 is a number I'd go with if you landed 6-7 last year...