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What are the odds that both DJ and Pyne are on the bench to end this game... Both fan bases are scared to death of their own starting QB being awful.

Did somebody lose a bet on how many pages this thread would end up being?

My thoughts exactly. Throw them some 50/50 balls and let them out duel the Clemson DBs. At worse, ND gets a bunch of PI calls and really frustrates the Clemson D. Put in the tall package and let them do their thing.

That single tunnel leading to both locker rooms has been there since 1926. It ain't the tunnels fault...

Maybe we should start a Tommy Rees thread...OR...maybe a Tommy Rees thread AND a fire Tommy Rees...OR...how about a Tommy Rees thread, an official Fire Tommy Rees thread, and an unofficial Fire Tommy Rees thread...surely that will keep posters from posting about Tommy Rees in every other thread...

How many times do you think you need to say it? How many threads do you need to derail to make your Rees points?

It is pretty simple. I have an understanding of why you and others may want him and his system. I hate the system and am not entertained when watching it and that is ultimately why I watch sports - to be entertained. Yes, the ACC stinks...

I get it. Wake Forest scores a lot of points (albeit against a really bad ACC). There are a lot of reasons someone should want Ruggiero to be the OC of their team. If ND were to hire him (I doubt it) then I would cheer for him and Old Notre Dame. I also know that I would be frustrated...

All that did is make me realize how bad Drew Pyne really is. I watch that and see the throws from Phil and wish we still had him. Now I am more sad about this season than I was after Saturday. I have watched WF a few times the last couple of seasons. We will have to just go our separate ways...

What did I ever do to you? I mention how much I hate this guy's offense and since that conversation all you do is promote him constantly on this website!

For what? Is there an Aldi there he wants to visit?

I was too. I hated the way he danced in the backfield last year waiting for the hole to open. He has completely changed his style as a runner and now runs with an attitude. I love watching him now.

I was visiting a Clemson friend yesterday so that was the game on the main TV. I was watching ND on my computer. If you actually watched the Clemson/Syracuse game you would have seen that Syracuse had no business being in that game. It was completely a Clemson debacle that had Syracuse in the...

Can confirm. I work with several Clemson grads who normally do go to away games - including the last time they played at ND. None of them are going because they want no part of the weather.

Didn't take long...

Some of the criticism coming at Freeman is so silly. Looks like he wants to cry? I just watched the presser - nope. Not at any point in that presser did he look like he wanted to cry. Doesn't communicate with his coaches on the sideline? I have no response. You are just being stupid. Of...

LOL - the Bama boards are firing the OC, DC, DB coaches and their S&C staff...

Saturday was really bad. No excuses for the offense not being successful. However, there was no way the offense was going to be successful running the same thing we ran against UNC/BYU. Stanford really succeeded in their defensive game plan. Load the box to stop the run. They had more...

Sure - I am not a fan of the zone read style offense to begin with. It's simply personal taste, but it just isn't visually appealing. The slow mesh takes it to a whole different level of not being entertaining. The slow handoff and delayed decision making by the QB makes each individual play...

I think this is a good place to start the conversation. I do think that Freeman is going to figure this thing out, but my one big concern is that he does seem to want this really slow, methodical offensive game plan. Similar to what the teams he played on executed. I hated, as a college...