I believe Brice has a place out near Provo. He’s pretty plugged in with the byu program as well. He flat out stated during this week there is no way byu should be able to keep up with Notre dame. Brice knows that was a coaching disaster last nightIMO Brice is the most plugged in guy on the beat due to his relationship with coaches around the country. If he is putting that out publicly then it’s because it’s what he’s been told by other pros in the industry.
Brutal stuff.
It often feels as though neither of coordinators do. It's like they can't sense the moment whatsoever. Denbrock starting three drives after huge game changing plays by ST and defense with runs straight up the gut into loaded boxes is one example. As someone else pointed out, us going for it on 4th and goal against UNC probably expecting Ash to go balls to the wall with UNC pinned on their own goal line, only for Ash to come out in the softest defense that would make Ed Donatell blush is another.100%. Al Golden said how you can't wait until halftime to make adjustments. You need to do it after each drive. Chris Ash doesn't do that.
I wonder if part of it is that Golden had relatively simple plans. If the defense is consistently giving up yards and points, it means the plan isn't working so you need to change the plan.
With Ash and his more complex defenses, its easy enough to blame a bad drive or two on busted coverages, guys getting beat, or the offense just having the right play called. You spend time on the sideline trying to fix these small things and prepare for the next chess match, but don't realize when the underlying plan isn't working.
It's like he doesn't have a good feel for the game. Like in the UNC game where we turn the ball over on downs and they're backed up to their 3 yard line. Freeman probably goes for that fourth down thinking we'd be aggressive, but then Ash has the defense come out super conservatively.
100%. Al Golden said how you can't wait until halftime to make adjustments. You need to do it after each drive. Chris Ash doesn't do that.
I wonder if part of it is that Golden had relatively simple plans. If the defense is consistently giving up yards and points, it means the plan isn't working so you need to change the plan.
With Ash and his more complex defenses, its easy enough to blame a bad drive or two on busted coverages, guys getting beat, or the offense just having the right play called. You spend time on the sideline trying to fix these small things and prepare for the next chess match, but don't realize when the underlying plan isn't working.
It's like he doesn't have a good feel for the game. Like in the UNC game where we turn the ball over on downs and they're backed up to their 3 yard line. Freeman probably goes for that fourth down thinking we'd be aggressive, but then Ash has the defense come out super conservatively.
I believe Brice has a place out near Provo. He’s pretty plugged in with the byu program as well. He flat out stated during this week there is no way byu should be able to keep up with Notre dame. Brice knows that was a coaching disaster last night
Are we missing Bullough more than we thought? Maybe he had some responsibility with the defense getting turned around last year with game planning, specifically the pressures.
Something changed at the end of Purdue last year, where the pressure and stunts got dialed back up to what were used to with Golden. For some reason it feels like we’re back to pre-Purdue 2025 level of just rushing 4 and hoping for pressure.
Yeah I do think it’s worth remembering that great offense beats great defense in college football. Saban talks about it a lot that’s its the reason he pivoted his scheme to be more pass heavy later in his tenure at Alabama.Louisville, USC and Ohio State also shredded us in 2024.
They dominated IU at home, otherwise Georgia (with Gunner), Penn State and Texas A&M were pretty awful offenses.
Yes, we didn't win 2nd down very much last night.Ash has good third down packages. The issue is they were rarely in third and 7+
First drive longest distance was third and 5, third drive longest was third and 6, fourth drive longest was third and one. That was the first half.
Third and 8 = punt
Third and 7 = punt
Third and 7 = punt
They didn’t convert one third down over 6 yards. The issue in the first half was entirely early down execution letting them stay on schedule way too easily.
This is literally the most unkind thing I have ever heard Brice say about a coach:
Yikes.
The fact that if either of his coordinators is having a bad game he can’t step in and do anything to actually readjust to what’s happening on the field is very disappointing. His only quality is team management which is very very important but I don’t trust him at all to be able to impact a game once it’s begun minus cheerleading. Please tell me wrong. I loved the hire but it appears he hasn’t developed at all as a game day coach.He has a lot of work to do himself.
Doesn't that lie on the captains? Whose the guy in charge of lining up the defense?There is just ZERO excuse for a defense with our level of experience to be confused pre-snap.
VG level bad.
The fact that I heard the coaches said that BYU threw new things at them that wasn’t on tape and the misdirection really caught them is just maddening to hear. Why didn’t NDs offense have ANY new looks at all? Why couldn’t NDs defense handle misdirection? Why the hell are they playing zone so much? That whole game was coaching malpractice.There is just ZERO excuse for a defense with our level of experience to be confused pre-snap.
VG level bad.
I'm loving the "they did things we didn't see on film" stuff too. They've had five games you can scout.There is just ZERO excuse for a defense with our level of experience to be confused pre-snap.
VG level bad.
This is literally the most unkind thing I have ever heard Brice say about a coach:
Yikes.
Great. Has nothing to do with Chris Ash.John also agrees that it’s crazy we played 3 WR’s yesterday over 70 snaps each. Faison was asking to come out the last drive because he was out of gas, what the hells gonna happen if one of our 3 get injured. Need to start getting 2-3 other guys more reps in the games. Need fresh bodies. Hell Jeremiah Smith is only playing like 30-40 snaps a game.
Ash has good third down packages. The issue is they were rarely in third and 7+
First drive longest distance was third and 5, third drive longest was third and 6, fourth drive longest was third and one. That was the first half.
Third and 8 = punt
Third and 7 = punt
Third and 7 = punt
They didn’t convert one third down over 6 yards. The issue in the first half was entirely early down execution letting them stay on schedule way too easily.
It was a disgusting game plan and total chaos. The 7 yard cushions were so easily fixed, but he did not even when shown it was not working. We got zero pressure and had no creativity to get pressure.Having 36 hours to reflect, I come away even more upset with Ash and the defensive coaches for Saturday night. Freeman is ultimately responsible as well. The whole “they threw in things we hadn’t seen” is just infuriating. Every good team should do some things you haven’t seen - you have to be able to adapt and change to that. The amount of easy throws Bachmeier had with d-backs giving 7 yard cushions was ridiculous. How you can take the amount of talent we have on defense and make them look completely lost is beyond me. Ash is a fraud who capitalizes on teams with barely a pulse
This is infuriating on two levels. 1. the defense wasn't ready, but 2. did ND do things BYU hadn't seen on film? Either BYU has a Connor Stallions or ND did the same shit they did all year and BYU was ready. (It's the latter).I'm loving the "they did things we didn't see on film" stuff too. They've had five games you can scout.
Maybe they really "Denbrock must be holding back" over there at BYU. We should try it.
Yeah I think ND went into this game thinking they could do enough to just run it and take a shot here and there and that would work. They were banking on the defense holding BYU under 21. Problem is teams who have shown a high safety we have struggled on offense against.This is infuriating on two levels. 1. the defense wasn't ready, but 2. did ND do things BYU hadn't seen on film? Either BYU has a Connor Stallions or ND did the same shit they did all year and BYU was ready. (It's the latter).