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CFB doesnt have the parity that NFL has and after team 12 there is a huge drop off in depth and talent on any team. Truth of the matter is that with 24 teams the SEC will want over half of them. This push for 24 is being made by FOX and Big10 as a competitor to SEC and ESPN. Its just a money grab.
 
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thekid33 said:
Kirk is an idiot. Always has been. Hopefully more and more people will start to come around to this realization.
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Last time I saw Kirk say something moronic about NDs playoff chances on a random Friday afternoon, it came true unfortunately. He has real talking points, however stupid they are

 
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Dale said:
The opening salvo of the season from ESPN so far, NDs schedule is an embarrassment and incredibly unfair per Kirk:

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There it is. I was starting to get a little concerned with the national media picking us to win and cover. Thankfully that fucking jackass Herbie couldn't help himself. This should be playing in the locker room for the next 24 hours. This is why, while I understand MF being a professional and brand ambassador, I didn't particularly care for seeing him yucking it up with ESPN people before the National Championship after the way Herbie and Saban talked about us.
 
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Dale said:
Last time I saw Kirk say something moronic about NDs playoff chances on a random Friday afternoon, it came true unfortunately. He has real talking points, however stupid they are

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My biggest problem is that he can't hide his bias. He's never critical of Ohio St. I get that he played there, but you need to try to be somewhat partial. Him crying in the booth when they won the most recent title was gross. He also always slurped Clemson when they were good because one of his kids went there. At the same time, he's almost never complimentary of ND (if he is, it's very general) and almost always looks for ways to discredit them.
 
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thekid33 said:
My biggest problem is that he can't hide his bias. He's never critical of Ohio St. I get that he played there, but you need to try to be somewhat partial. Him crying in the booth when they won the most recent title was gross. He also always slurped Clemson when they were good because one of his kids went there. At the same time, he's almost never complimentary of ND (if he is, it's very general) and almost always looks for ways to discredit them.
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He's just a corporate lackey who spews whatever he is told to. He has zero integrity. Him stumping for Bama while he was broadcasting them getting utterly embarrassed in the SECCG is a prime recent example.
 
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Is Indiana's schedule any harder than ours? Pretty even. Ours is certainly more difficult than Miami. UGA plays 3 ranked teams too.

Just such a played out narrative. Herbstreit knows how scheduling goes - MSU and Wisconsin could easily be ranked in any other era and the ACC is just ass. USC dropped us at the 11th hour and we added a tougher team.
 
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In 2018, Clemson’s toughest game was 9 - 3 NC State. Elite teams have had easy schedules relative to them being elite since the dawn of time. We play an unbalanced sport. It’s only becoming a massive talking point since ESPN put together an expanded post season
 
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Yeah, just posted the clip in another thread.

Herbie’s motives are incredibly transparent, and he lacks the integrity to give unbiased takes.

Hoping we blow the doors off BYU. Even if we do, though, the narrative will soon switch to BYU being exposed, i.e. clearly they were just a paper tiger. Expect them to drop heavily in the pools with our premier win now being devalued. We’ll get some credit, but not as much as we should. ND will continue to remain in question by these guys until Miami.
 
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Remaining SOS per ESPN:

Miami, Iowa, Ok State, Utah, Houston, SMU, Wisconsin, Texas Tech, UCLA all CFP contenders at same or worse. IU is at 35, even with OSU tomorrow. There is what 68 P4 teams? So NDs remaining SOS is basically average, before even addressing FPIs SEC bias.

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Our schedule has 10 power 4 opponents. Exactly the standard set by the new CFP rules. The fuck is he crying about saying it’s unfair? We don’t control how good or bad the ACC or Big 10 teams we scheduled years ago are going to be. And when USC bailed on us last minute we picked up the phone and scheduled a tough away game at BYU that you get to announce.
 
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I don’t care what the numbers say, NDs schedule is the same as Georgia’s.

We both one play elite: Miami and Alabama
We both play a bucket of good teams: SMU, BYU, Ole Miss, Missouri, Wisconsin

Any more than that is hinging on the belief that ____insert 7 - 5 SEC team_____ was this massive test like on the road @ Auburn
 
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SportsingHard said:
I don't understand the griping from CFB fans or ND fans. The most significant change is that teams like 2025 ND won't get fucked over anymore.

Though I'm not hearing coherent complaints from either party, as best I can tell, CFB fans consider the sport 'ruined' without conference championship games. They didn't exist when I was young, and the Big Ten didn't have their first until 2015. (EDIT: 2011.)

I guess we're just gonna keep doing this thing where we cry about how every little change equals the death of everything good in this world.
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In a matter of 4 years we're getting pushed from 4 to 12 to 24, and make no mistake 24 will absolutely dilute the best part of college football...its regular season. It's what separates college from NFL and gives us the games of the century like ND-FSU 1993, Bama - LSU 2011, Michigan-OSU 2006 etc. I would argue 8 is a fine number.

The players didn't ask for more games and a longer season.
The schedule interferes with final exams and the portal.
More risk of injury.
More travel.
Much more expensive for fans to enjoy in person.
Fewer meaningful regular season games except for a 8-4 NC State team trying to make this "playoff."

Plain and simple it's a desperate money grab by these schools and AD's who claim to be broke. "Hey guys let's make the product worse and make a lot more money from it." Sounds like a recipe baked by a private equity shop.

I'm so disgusted with the whole thing and it's a sad day when this becomes reality.

Oh and btw...ND fucked themselves in 2025. Don't give up 44 points to A&M at home and you're in.
 
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Honestly Kirk is getting cooked online. Maybe it’s the heels of the 24 announcement, maybe it’s people felt icky about last year whether you like ND or not. But the general public is eyes wide open on this stuff now:






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Dale said:
Honestly Kirk is getting cooked online. Maybe it’s the heels of the 24 announcement, maybe it’s people felt icky about last year whether you like ND or not. But the general public is eyes wide open on this stuff now:






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My thoughts on his nonsense are the same as last year when they conspired to keep us out.

We are officially a threat, and that’s scary to them.
 
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So is everyone going Independent now or just us? Even though the 24 team playoff is BS, it only helps us get a spot in a more watered down playoff now.
 
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