Trump Presidency Round 2

My #1 complaint on Trump's first term was that he spent too much. This was 0% surprising. One thing both sides suck at cutting spending and restricting the size and scope of government. Commies yelling and pointing at neo-cons about spending is about as rich as it gets.

TorontoGold said:

I have to be passive because you're soft as baby shit and will run away if I even challenge your opinion.

If you do allow for follow up I would challenge the below;
1) Why are you only picking this two countries, what about their COVID policies did you like and what would you have applied to the US?
2) Where does the US rank in terms of the G7 and G20 as you mentioned.
3) Explain to me what you understand about the Japanese economy post 2010 and what impact that has on their COVID response.

You can choose the path of defending your position, or, take the same path the humiliated fake doctor has taken. Up to you.

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Oh this is rich. You have to be passive and respond to my posts indirectly (to another poster) but I'm the soft one? Hahahahaha. You're so full of shit, I've never run away from any discussion, and I've already defended my position.

1) My statement, my choice. I picked China and Japan because both are G20 nations who had one fourth the inflation in 2022 compared to the US.

2) Look it up yourself.

3) I need to explain nothing to you. You are not a professor and I am not a student. I don't give a damn about 2010 or the last decade. This is very difficult for you, but try to keep eyes on target. Gattaca and I were discussing the impacts of Covid on the economy here and abroad.

Polish Leppy 22 said:

Oh this is rich. You have to be passive and respond to my posts indirectly (to another poster) but I'm the soft one? Hahahahaha. You're so full of shit, I've never run away from any discussion, and I've already defended my position.

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Never run away? Brother you're already midway through the 100M dash. Look below. "I need to explain nothing to you" & "my statement my choice" - the level of insecurity is wild.

Polish Leppy 22 said:

1) My statement, my choice. I picked China and Japan because both are G20 nations who had one fourth the inflation in 2022 compared to the US.

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Reverse break there, slugger. You didn't answer - what about their COVID policies did you like and what would you have applied to the US?

Polish Leppy 22 said:

2) Look it up yourself.

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So you only looked for the two outliers and didn't consider the others? I find it hard to believe you don't know how the other countries did.

Polish Leppy 22 said:

3) I need to explain nothing to you. You are not a professor and I am not a student. I don't give a damn about 2010 or the last decade. This is very difficult for you, but try to keep eyes on target. Gattaca and I were discussing the impacts of Covid on the economy here and abroad.

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I don't know what self help book you got that line from but it doesn't hit as hard as you think. So it's your position that these economies all kind of started at the same spot once COVID hit?

What's not to like??

GATTACA! said:

What's not to like??

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Two more years to go. Crazy

And so, he's already up to his election "shenanigans"

Trump DOJ readies 1,000 election monitors for midterms

TorontoGold said:

Never run away? Brother you're already midway through the 100M dash. Look below. "I need to explain nothing to you" & "my statement my choice" - the level of insecurity is wild.


Reverse break there, slugger. You didn't answer - what about their COVID policies did you like and what would you have applied to the US?

So you only looked for the two outliers and didn't consider the others? I find it hard to believe you don't know how the other countries did.

I don't know what self help book you got that line from but it doesn't hit as hard as you think. So it's your position that these economies all kind of started at the same spot once COVID hit?

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I've never run away from a point I've made and you can't point to one time I have. I also don't try to divert the conversation in a different direction which you do regularly. I don't have to explain anything to you because my point has already been made. One poster replying to another poster indirectly is the weakest shit I've seen on IE in 20 years, even for a Canadian.

I replied to Gattaca saying Trump should have just continued the recovery that Biden started, which is a joke. I backed that up by pointing to Biden's policies led to decades high inflation right after Covid (2021-2022).

I then asked how countries in the G20 like China and Japan in those same years only saw 2% inflation while the US saw 8% and why. The fact that Gattaca hasn't even tried to respond to this speaks for itself, and your attempt at humor is still garbage.

Polish Leppy 22 said:

I've never run away from a point I've made and you can't point to one time I have. I also don't try to divert the conversation in a different direction which you do regularly. I don't have to explain anything to you because my point has already been made. One poster replying to another poster indirectly is the weakest shit I've seen on IE in 20 years, even for a Canadian.

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You’re literally running away from a point right now. I can’t believe you won’t even say what China and Japan did better that Biden should have done. Clearly you believe they were better, but you won’t say what or what the economic conditions are that allowed them to achieve that. It’s like if someone said Marcus Freeman is a horrible coach because Ryan Day and Cignetti have had better years than him and when you ask why you just shirk away.

“For a Canadian” - what’s that even supposed to mean? lol. Congrats on being born in the US? If that’s your crowning achievement or what you think makes you “better” than me, yeesh.

Polish Leppy 22 said:

I replied to Gattaca saying Trump should have just continued the recovery that Biden started, which is a joke. I backed that up by pointing to Biden's policies led to decades high inflation right after Covid (2021-2022).

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So it’s your position that specifically Biden is to blame for inflation, yes?

Polish Leppy 22 said:

I then asked how countries in the G20 like China and Japan in those same years only saw 2% inflation while the US saw 8% and why. The fact that Gattaca hasn't even tried to respond to this speaks for itself, and your attempt at humor is still garbage.

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Is this where I use the self help book line about not being the student? Or do we see how pathetic that line is? Do you *actually* want to know why those countries had lower inflation or if I answer are you going to run away and say I’m redirecting? You lay out the rules of engagement so I can ensure to keep your fragile feelings in mind when responding.

You wouldn’t want to be scared of a “Canadian”, wouldn’t be a good look to the motley crue of super stars of IE MAGA, couldn’t imagine doing this after seeing how humiliated the fake doctor has been. Bud couldn’t even post in the football threads!

TorontoGold said:

You’re literally running away from a point right now. I can’t believe you won’t even say what China and Japan did better that Biden should have done. Clearly you believe they were better, but you won’t say what or what the economic conditions are that allowed them to achieve that. It’s like if someone said Marcus Freeman is a horrible coach because Ryan Day and Cignetti have had better years than him and when you ask why you just shirk away.

“For a Canadian” - what’s that even supposed to mean? lol. Congrats on being born in the US? If that’s your crowning achievement or what you think makes you “better” than me, yeesh.



So it’s your position that specifically Biden is to blame for inflation, yes?


Is this where I use the self help book line about not being the student? Or do we see how pathetic that line is? Do you *actually* want to know why those countries had lower inflation or if I answer are you going to run away and say I’m redirecting? You lay out the rules of engagement so I can ensure to keep your fragile feelings in mind when responding.

You wouldn’t want to be scared of a “Canadian”, wouldn’t be a good look to the motley crue of super stars of IE MAGA, couldn’t imagine doing this after seeing how humiliated the fake doctor has been. Bud couldn’t even post in the football threads!

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I haven't run away from anything. I stated a position, backed it with facts and numbers, and even asked a question no one has been able to answer. My post was in response to Gattaca not you, I don't owe you any explanation beyond what I've put forth, and if anything you should shut up and let Gattaca talk on this topic for the first time in about a week. Again, you are not the teacher and I am not a student.

Yes, Biden's policies are in direct correlation with decades high inflation rates in the US post 2020.

Yes, being a red blooded American male means I was raised to handle disagreements straight up and not be a passive aggressive pussy. You're closing in on 8000 posts in a few short years on IE. Let us all know which self help book your therapist recommends.

PL, as you've seen, TG takes pride in being an antagonist.

Polish Leppy 22 said:

I haven't run away from anything. I stated a position, backed it with facts and numbers, and even asked a question no one has been able to answer. My post was in response to Gattaca not you, I don't owe you any explanation beyond what I've put forth, and if anything you should shut up and let Gattaca talk on this topic for the first time in about a week. Again, you are not the teacher and I am not a student.

Yes, Biden's policies are in direct correlation with decades high inflation rates in the US post 2020.

Yes, being a red blooded American male means I was raised to handle disagreements straight up and not be a passive aggressive pussy. You're closing in on 8000 posts in a few short years on IE. Let us all know which self help book your therapist recommends.

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Yes you've stated your position. He's asking you to explain your position, which you can't or won't do.

Polish Leppy 22 said:

I haven't run away from anything. I stated a position, backed it with facts and numbers, and even asked a question no one has been able to answer. My post was in response to Gattaca not you, I don't owe you any explanation beyond what I've put forth, and if anything you should shut up and let Gattaca talk on this topic for the first time in about a week. Again, you are not the teacher and I am not a student.

Yes, Biden's policies are in direct correlation with decades high inflation rates in the US post 2020.

Yes, being a red blooded American male means I was raised to handle disagreements straight up and not be a passive aggressive pussy. You're closing in on 8000 posts in a few short years on IE. Let us all know which self help book your therapist recommends.

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You literally have just stated - China and Japan had lower inflation than the US and blamed it on Biden. You have not backed it up at all. I have asked you what you like about how China and Japan responded to COVID economically and what Biden should have done that they did. You are on, what, post 7 of running away? Why can't you articulate what China and Japan did that Biden should have done?

So you're just allowed to ramble off opinions and when anyone challenges them you just get to shirk off because reasons? That is so cowardly lmao.

"Red blooded American male" L-O-L saying that unironically in the year 2026. I was literally MAKING FUN OF YOU when you called me passive, I directly responded to you. Can you understand that? Does that compute? Not very gigachad alpha debatemaxxer to run away from a discussion because you're not capable of explaining your position.

GATTACA! said:

Yes you've stated your position. He's asking you to explain your position, which you can't or won't do.

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I stated my position and supported it with statistics. I don't need to explain anything further.

It's been a week and you still can't explain why Japan and China had 2% inflation when the US had 8% under Biden.

TorontoGold said:

You literally have just stated - China and Japan had lower inflation than the US and blamed it on Biden. You have not backed it up at all. I have asked you what you like about how China and Japan responded to COVID economically and what Biden should have done that they did. You are on, what, post 7 of running away? Why can't you articulate what China and Japan did that Biden should have done?

So you're just allowed to ramble off opinions and when anyone challenges them you just get to shirk off because reasons? That is so cowardly lmao.

"Red blooded American male" L-O-L saying that unironically in the year 2026. I was literally MAKING FUN OF YOU when you called me passive, I directly responded to you. Can you understand that? Does that compute? Not very gigachad alpha debatemaxxer to run away from a discussion because you're not capable of explaining your position.

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I stated many posts back that China and Japan didn't spend themselves into a mess AND didn't import millions of third world migrants. You either ignored this or you're just bored and want to continue the conversation.

I stated a position backed by statistics, and don't have to expand upon shit to meet your questions. Go pound sand if you're not happy about it. I don't come on IE to appease the underemployed Canadian accountant with too much time on his hands.

You ADMITTED to being passive aggressive, you were passive aggressive, you did NOT respond directly to me, and you responded to another poster about one of my posts. The only reason this topic is still being discussed is because I called you out on your pussy shit.

To reiterate my original point --- the words Biden and recovery don't belong in the same sentence if you're talking economy.

Polish Leppy 22 said:

I stated my position and supported it with statistics. I don't need to explain anything further.

It's been a week and you still can't explain why Japan and China had 2% inflation when the US had 8% under Biden.

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You're the one making the claim dumbass lol. I'm not doing your fucking homework.

Polish Leppy 22 said:

I stated many posts back that China and Japan didn't spend themselves into a mess AND didn't import millions of third world migrants. You either ignored this or you're just bored and want to continue the conversation.

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So you’d be in favour of adopting the governance of China and Japan? Do you have sort of proof that your opinions are true? How did you arrive at those conclusions?

Polish Leppy 22 said:

I stated a position backed by statistics, and don't have to expand upon shit to meet your questions. Go pound sand if you're not happy about it. I don't come on IE to appease the underemployed Canadian accountant with too much time on his hands.

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You stated statistics and then made an opinionated point that the China and Japan performed better because of spending and immigration. You have provided no evidence that is actually true or what they did you would have liked Biden to have done.

There you go worrying about the few minutes I spend a day on here asking you to explain your opinion. I’m sorry this is so threatening.

Polish Leppy 22 said:

You ADMITTED to being passive aggressive, you were passive aggressive, you did NOT respond directly to me, and you responded to another poster about one of my posts. The only reason this topic is still being discussed is because I called you out on your pussy shit.

To reiterate my original point --- the words Biden and recovery don't belong in the same sentence if you're talking economy.

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I responded to you after you got upset I was making fun of you. Clearly you’re in your feelings that people make fun of you for thinking you really cooked with “fast ball down the middle” when you just gargled out two stats and slapped an unfounded opinion to them. Awwww you think I’m the pussy, I’m sure everyone reading a guy who refers to himself as a red blooded American male thinks that guy is super cool!

Joe Biden out performed Trump on economics and it’s not even close.

Let me help you a bit here, Leppy. Here’s a nice article written recently about Japan and their economy…. Japanâs inflation paradox is creating winners and losers

You are correct that inflation in Japan was lower, but there’s more to the story. As the article mentions:

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While inflation is bedeviling countries around the world, including the U.S., Japan represents a special case. For three decades the primary concern was deflation. A succession of prime ministers and central bankers unleashed record stimulus after the bursting of stock market and property bubbles in the late 1980s and early ’90s caused deep scars. Japan accrued public debt now worth more than twice the nation’s gross domestic product (GDP), yet prices and the economy kept flatlining.

In the early 2020s the supply shocks stemming from COVID-19 lockdowns and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine caused inflation to return. From mid-2021 it began accelerating to peak at 4.3% in early 2023. It was well below the post-pandemic highs of 9.1%, 10.6% and 11.1% in the U.S., Europe and the U.K., respectively, but a shock for a society unaccustomed to rising prices.”

So as we see here, while Japan’s inflation numbers were lower, they were still a massive shock to the people as these numbers represented a massive change in economics there. They weren’t used to any kind of price increases/inflation like this. Lower than us? Yes. Bad though because they’ve been dealing with deflation? Yes.

Let’s also touch on demographics of Japan. The average age there is 50 years old. Here in the USA, it’s 39. So while inflation and wage growth in Japan is absolutely benefitting younger peoples, they have a massive amount of elderly that are pensioners. The article continues stating, “Pensioners and workers on lower wages in rural areas, however, are going backward as the cost of living increases.”

TorontoGold said:

So you’d be in favour of adopting the governance of China and Japan? Do you have sort of proof that your opinions are true? How did you arrive at those conclusions?


You stated statistics and then made an opinionated point that the China and Japan performed better because of spending and immigration. You have provided no evidence that is actually true or what they did you would have liked Biden to have done.

There you go worrying about the few minutes I spend a day on here asking you to explain your opinion. I’m sorry this is so threatening.



I responded to you after you got upset I was making fun of you. Clearly you’re in your feelings that people make fun of you for thinking you really cooked with “fast ball down the middle” when you just gargled out two stats and slapped an unfounded opinion to them. Awwww you think I’m the pussy, I’m sure everyone reading a guy who refers to himself as a red blooded American male thinks that guy is super cool!

Joe Biden out performed Trump on economics and it’s not even close.

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You are a passive aggressive pussy, I called you out on it and I laugh at the fact that your favorite hobby outside of your part time job is arguing with strangers on the Internet about politics.

GATTACA! said:

You're the one making the claim dumbass lol. I'm not doing your fucking homework.

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You claimed 8% inflation under Biden was solely due to Covid. I pointed out other G20 nations who didn't have 8% inflation. Apparently this is new info for you and you assumed everyone had the same inflation rate globally due to Covid.

Biden and recovery do not belong in the same sentence.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/

Here, inflation in the U.S. was elevated relative to the G10 for the first two years of the pandemic, but quickly reversed course at the start of 2022. Then, inflation began to fall and for a period was below the U.K., the eurozone, and the G10 median. Today, cumulative core inflation in the U.S. is approximately equal to all major competitors except Japan. However, what makes the U.S. experience so unique was that inflation was comparable across developed economies while growth in GDP, consumption, and employment was exceptional relative to competitors.

Polish Leppy 22 said:

You are a passive aggressive pussy, I called you out on it and I laugh at the fact that your favorite hobby outside of your part time job is arguing with strangers on the Internet about politics.

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You certainly seem like you’re laughing and not getting your feelings.

This is another example of you running away because you can’t defend your opinion. No understanding of the Chinese economy, no clue about the Japanese economy, and no ability to articulate what you would have liked Biden to do. You can’t even respond to Gower, how come?

You’ll believe whatever you want to believe, truth be dammed.

Donald Trump is a great president and was exceptional at managing the COVID outbreak. He continues the competent stewardship today. We’re lucky to have him…

Trump with another fast ball down the middle. (This is me making fun of how stupid Trump is, and also laughing at how Leppy thinks he could ever claim someone is throwing a fastball down the middle when he can’t articulate anything at a economics 101 level.) I hope that isn’t too passive.

Polish Leppy 22 said:

You claimed 8% inflation under Biden was solely due to Covid. I pointed out other G20 nations who didn't have 8% inflation. Apparently this is new info for you and you assumed everyone had the same inflation rate globally due to Covid.

Biden and recovery do not belong in the same sentence.

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Covid didn’t dump trillions of spending in the IRA and ARA for partisan spending in an overheated economy. Covid wasn’t printing money so fast they had to hire people to figure out how to spend it. Covid didn’t open the borders. Covid didn’t choose to relax enforcement and prosecution. Covid didn’t lie about the health and dementia of the president. They did use COVID to their advantage to restrict the people and spend at will- but it wasn’t the culprit. Covid wasn’t the problem.

drayer54 said:

Covid didn’t dump trillions of spending in the IRA and ARA for partisan spending in an overheated economy. Covid wasn’t printing money so fast they had to hire people to figure out how to spend it. Covid didn’t open the borders. Covid didn’t choose to relax enforcement and prosecution. Covid didn’t lie about the health and dementia of the president. They did use COVID to their advantage to restrict the people and spend at will- but it wasn’t the culprit. Covid wasn’t the problem.

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Trump is responsible for 25% of the entire national debt alone.

He and his admin now run what's called "Disaster Capitalism."

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TorontoGold said:

Drayer’s Dreams - Bring you the wildest fantasy’s from the depths of MAGA Twitter!

Everything is Biden bad! Having a bad day? Blame a random immigrant! Can’t afford groceries? Communism! Town falling apart but can afford enough arms to cosplay as a small army? At least it isn’t New York!

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Is this the straw man portrayal of middle America they have on your blue sky feed that makes you feel mighty?
I’m not wrong- Biden dumped cash on an overheated economy and drove inflation higher than it needed to be—- then opened the border—- which has what impact on supply and demand? Inflation was going to just go down how? But yes- I don’t have a rent advisor four years behind on rent, communists in power, subsidized grocery stores, insane budgets, and the looney tunes of NYC.

This is Dem America-


I’ll take the sane version of America.


You’ll have to go to red state America to find a certain something….