Tommy

[Yes]

Is this proof that the Notre Dame QB is one of the most pressured and stressful sports positions (Along with Notre Dame HC)? Just look at some of the things ND fans say about him. I mean, he's 19 years-old.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Yes, did he know that ND has the most fans in the country when he accepted the scholarship?

Did Tommy know that ND is on TV every week, National TV that is?

Did he see what Ron P, Brady Q, Jimmy C. went through?

Big players Rise. He hasn't. And this Soph. 19 year old stuff is just crap. he is a Soph in college. He has had 2 summers, 2 bowl games, 2 bowl 15 practices, spring ball and roughly 1.3 years of starting at ND.

If he can't handle it, get off.

That soph QB with 1 start coming into this year just had 7 TDs and 440 passing yards and almost upset the #12 Team.

There was a lot of fresh/soph QB's that did really good this year. Tommy just isn't one of them.

 

[CarrollVermin]

I don't care about the talk about pressure, or the lights, or rransfers...the bottom line is that you have to recognize your weaknesses and work to resolve them. This did not happen this year. Being the starting QB at ND is no different from any place else, I'm tired of the holier than thou argument. Dude needs to watch film, get in a weight room and work his *** off if he wants to compete at a D1 elite level. It's as simple as that.

I love his moxie and demeanor, but he has his flaws. An elite quarterback recognizes those and works his tail off to eliminate them. That's what I expect from the starting quarterback at the University of Notre Dame.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

Tommy is a lot like Tim Tebow in the NFL.. people gave him all the credit for the wins when the team seemed to win in spite of him.. not to mention his record was skewed because he racked up his W's vs. some less than average squads while falling flat on his face vs. the big boys.. Tommy did ok in his stint at ND, may have gave me some gray hairs, most certainly raised my blood pressure and caused me to say ungodly things at my television screen, but hopefully he gets himself one of those fine ND degrees and stays off the field for the rest of his career.. please, for the love of God, let this be Tommy's last start at ND

 

[Yes]

Yes, did he know that ND has the most fans in the country when he accepted the scholarship?

Did Tommy know that ND is on TV every week, National TV that is?

Did he see what Ron P, Brady Q, Jimmy C. went through?

Big players Rise. He hasn't. And this Soph. 19 year old stuff is just crap. he is a Soph in college. He has had 2 summers, 2 bowl games, 2 bowl 15 practices, spring ball and roughly 1.3 years of starting at ND.

If he can't handle it, get off.

That soph QB with 1 start coming into this year just had 7 TDs and 440 passing yards and almost upset the #12 Team.

There was a lot of fresh/soph QB's that did really good this year. Tommy just isn't one of them.

So is it his fault he's never taken out of games when he's obviously struggling? He was a three-star quarterback. Notre Dame was by far his best offer. Did he really think he'd be thrown into a fire like this when he commited?

Powlus, Quinn, Clausen... These guys were expected to come in and be amazing (and with all due respect they were). This was Rees' first post on his recruiting thread:

Seems like where starting to reach a bit doesn't it?

I guess I'm just saying take it easy on the kid. He's doing his best and it's not completely his fault.

 

[sharksamardzija8345]

So is it his fault he's never taken out of games when he's obviously struggling? He was a three-star quarterback. Notre Dame was by far his best offer. Did he really think he'd be thrown into a fire like this when he commited?

Powlus, Quinn, Clausen... These guys were expected to come in and be amazing (and with all due respect they were). This was Rees' first post on his recruiting thread:



I guess I'm just saying take it easy on the kid. He's doing his best and it's not completely his fault.

my anger is more directed at BK to be honest.. he sticks up for Rees like he's his son.. holding onto this loyalty will cost him and has cost him.. he could have had Hendrix play the entire game tonight and possibly gain some confidence going into the offseason.. instead, he played musical QBs and didn't accomplish a damn thing..

 

[irishff1014]

So is it his fault he's never taken out of games when he's obviously struggling? He was a three-star quarterback. Notre Dame was by far his best offer. Did he really think he'd be thrown into a fire like this when he commited?

Powlus, Quinn, Clausen... These guys were expected to come in and be amazing (and with all due respect they were). This was Rees' first post on his recruiting thread:



I guess I'm just saying take it easy on the kid. He's doing his best and it's not completely his fault.

He maybe doing his beat and that isn't good enough.

 

[NDMontana]

I don't care about the talk about pressure, or the lights, or rransfers...the bottom line is that you have to recognize your weaknesses and work to resolve them. This did not happen this year. Being the starting QB at ND is no different from any place else, I'm tired of the holier than thou argument. Dude needs to watch film, get in a weight room and work his *** off if he wants to compete at a D1 elite level. It's as simple as that.

I love his moxie and demeanor, but he has his flaws. An elite quarterback recognizes those and works his tail off to eliminate them. That's what I expect from the starting quarterback at the University of Notre Dame.

Sadly you can work hard and develop many areas both physically and mentally. However, on the physical side, you can only improve speed by two-tenths of a second at best. And another two-tenths of a second is not going to be enough to make him effective in the spread option offense.

 

[Irish To The Core]

I find it amazing that so many of you are burying Hendrix after 0 starts. That was a bad int. I agree. But he has not had sufficient first team reps to discard him as "not the guy".

Kiel did not decide to go to LSU because Notre Dame's coaches were not recruiting him hard enough. He looked at Notre Dame and LSU and after careful consideration he decided LSU was a better fit for him.

ND is not in a desperate quarterbacking situation without Kiel in my opinion. Looking forward we have:
*Hendrix: an untried qb who has very good mobility and a strong arm
*Golson: a completely untried qb with even more mobility and a strong arm
*Rees: 16 starts. No mobility and progressing very slowly. But a damn good 3rd guy off the bench in the case of a disaster.
*A shot at Devin Fuller who is much like Golson, perhaps even a bit more mobile, perhaps less polished as a passer.

I can't see that the sky is falling.

And while I can't disagree about Crist, the past is passed and we can't do anything about that now. Coach Kelly obviously thought Tommy had more upside than he has displayed. Now we have to move on.

 

[returnofthemack]

I don't want to blast Tommy as he is a good guy, doing the best he can. What ticks me off is that Kelly stuck with him past the point of reason, wasting a perfect opportunity to develop his younger QB. After the Air Force game, Hendrix wasn't heard from again besides a few snaps against USC. Then Kelly was forced to start him in the second half of Stanford. How was that not enough to convince a man that has 20+ years of coaching experience, as he loves to remind us, that he needed to start grooming Hendrix? In short, I reserve my anger towards the QB position for Kelly. Tommy in a few years will be an excellent representative of Notre Dame, just not on the field.

 

[OlympiaIrishFan]

Tommy is a nice kid, good representative for the team outside of the field.

But, I don't want to see him behind center again. When you fold against good teams, it just isn't good. 6 TDS and 12/13 Turnovers and 1 win and loses against Stanford, FSU, Mich, USC. Sorry, Tommy is not even close to the field again.

 

[ndyeater]

Please cant we just get Gunner!!

 

[NDPhilly]

If Golson played this year I guarantee he would have missed at the very least one game due to injury. He really needed one year to build muscle.

 

[BeauBenken]

I said it all along. We needed Gunner, but most of you were like, "No. No. We have Hendrix who did okay in the Stanford game. He's the future! BUT NOW!"

It's about time you guys stop relying on promise. Just cause someone looks like they have potential does not mean they will ever achieve it and it certainly doesn't mean they will do it right this moment.

 

[irishff1014]

I said it all along. We needed Gunner, but most of you were like, "No. No. We have Hendrix who did okay in the Stanford game. He's the future! BUT NOW!"

It's about time you guys stop relying on promise. Just cause someone looks like they have potential does not mean they will ever achieve it and it certainly doesn't mean they will do it right this moment.

This was a huge lost for this team. not just because the other players hat would follow but because if anyone watched last night our coached screwed us in the QB dept this year. IMO kelly took steps backwards this year in the caoching dept. I was excited when he got hired. I am not calling for him to get fired but something needs to change with "his offense".

 

[ThePiombino]

I said it all along. We needed Gunner, but most of you were like, "No. No. We have Hendrix who did okay in the Stanford game. He's the future! BUT NOW!"

It's about time you guys stop relying on promise. Just cause someone looks like they have potential does not mean they will ever achieve it and it certainly doesn't mean they will do it right this moment.

I completely agree that this team needed to land Kiel, but how can you dismiss Hendrix's potential, yet count on Kiel's?

 

[ThePiombino]

This was a huge lost for this team. not just because the other players hat would follow but because if anyone watched last night our coached screwed us in the QB dept this year. IMO kelly took steps backwards this year in the caoching dept. I was excited when he got hired. I am not calling for him to get fired but something needs to change with "his offense".

Well, considering Molnar is now gone I'd say that's pretty much guaranteed lol

 

[irish4ever]

Golson will start next year. Rees is done.

Damn, let's hope so! I don't think I have enough patience to go thru 1 more yr. w/ him as QB. He's slower than pond water on a hot, humid, stagnant August day. Plus, it seems that it takes him 4-5 sec. for his mind to register when to throw the damn ball .... leads to sacks and interceptions! Tommy Turnover, nuff said!

 

[nlroma1o]

I think its very likely that we will see a qb transfer by next fall. If Golson wins the starting job and Hendrix is the second string. I think Rees will be transfering at the beginning or during the season.

 

[nd1]

What position does Golston play?

sorry i did not spell his name right. excuse me for the errorand day should have been defense was on my wives vizio tablet.

 

[btown35]

I hope Rees transfers now make up BK mind for him! You can't manage games and be a successful college program! They need to find out if Golson is a star because that is what you need!

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Since this is a thread about Tommy, I will say something I have been thinking all season. If you threw that kid in the ocean he would sink to the bottom immediately. Lead footed doesn't do him justice...I am convinced he is composed of ununoctium from the ankles down. I have never seen such an unathletic QB in my life. He doesn't/cant move his feet in the pocket, any time he rolls out he cant reposition his feet on the move to give himself any chance to make a meaningful throw. Any time he has to make a sudden movement or cut, he pretty much just trips over his own feet or falls over. On one level its almost humorous to watch. On another level it pisses me off to no end because in combination with his flutterballs into tight or double coverage, it has killed my beloved Irish all season long.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

Oh and I wish he would just shut his mouth and take instruction/criticism when he comes off the field after a mistake and BK lets him hear it. It pains me watching him argue with his head coach after he just lofted a wounded duck into double coverage in the red zone.

 

[Jerry]

I hope Rees transfers now make up BK mind for him! You can't manage games and be a successful college program! They need to find out if Golson is a star because that is what you need!

I like Tommy Rees..... As a second or third string QB. What he did at the end of last season was exactly what you'd want out of a back up. Just manage the games you don't have to win it by yourself but don't put the team in a position to lose by making mistakes. Unfortunatly Kelly should have stuck with Crist longer this season and if that didn't work out he should have went to Hendrix and Golsen. Instead we got to watch an entire season of our future back up QB getting reps.

 

[koonja]

Rees will not be transferring. First of all, what team would honestly recruit him that hard? And what's more valuable to Tommy Rees? 2 years of MAYBE starting at some FCS school that nobody really cares about or a ND education on the house? Plus he's started 2 years as the backup and ended up both those years as the starter. If he's a back up, he knows better than anyone that there's always a chance he still sees the field. Plus, BK might not even announce the starter until a week before the first game, so Tommy will be on the team, fighting for a starting spot come his junior year. What sense would it make to transfer after that? Like I said, the ND degree will probably be more important to him.

 

[Irishman77]

possible scenarios

1.Golson starts the next 4 years and turns the program around
2.Somebody other than Golson starts and we go 6-6 next year
3.Golson starts next year and we land an elite QB and Golson is moved to another position

You never pass on a franchise QB! If not landing the best QB in the country isn't a travesty, you are out of your mind. We have one QB IMO and had yet to play a down. If hendrix is the starter next year we better be running the option like Air Force. btw, Floyd having a tummy ache and not playing the final series pisses me off more than anything. We need a offensive Coordinator that is excellent in developing QB's. I love Kelly and have never wavered on supporting him, but I do question his ability to coach qb's at this point.

 

[dublinirish]

Since this is a thread about Tommy, I will say something I have been thinking all season. If you threw that kid in the ocean he would sink to the bottom immediately. Lead footed doesn't do him justice...I am convinced he is composed of ununoctium from the ankles down. I have never seen such an unathletic QB in my life. He doesn't/cant move his feet in the pocket, any time he rolls out he cant reposition his feet on the move to give himself any chance to make a meaningful throw. Any time he has to make a sudden movement or cut, he pretty much just trips over his own feet or falls over. On one level its almost humorous to watch. On another level it pisses me off to no end because in combination with his flutterballs into tight or double coverage, it has killed my beloved Irish all season long.

i totally agree with you about his footwork. If a pass rusher gets near him its gonna be a sack because he no chance of avoiding even the slowest of defenders. And when he rolls out you know hes just gonna wind up and attempt to throw out of bounds. Its been very depressing watching him play these last 1.5 seasons

 

[nlroma1o]

Since this is a thread about Tommy, I will say something I have been thinking all season. If you threw that kid in the ocean he would sink to the bottom immediately. Lead footed doesn't do him justice...I am convinced he is composed of ununoctium from the ankles down. I have never seen such an unathletic QB in my life. He doesn't/cant move his feet in the pocket, any time he rolls out he cant reposition his feet on the move to give himself any chance to make a meaningful throw. Any time he has to make a sudden movement or cut, he pretty much just trips over his own feet or falls over. On one level its almost humorous to watch. On another level it pisses me off to no end because in combination with his flutterballs into tight or double coverage, it has killed my beloved Irish all season long.

The irony of this of course, is that he WAS the QB of a spread offense!!! He was supposed to be a QB in a system where he is required to use his agility to make plays! hahahahah cracks me up thinking about it!

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

i totally agree with you about his footwork. If a pass rusher gets near him its gonna be a sack because he no chance of avoiding even the slowest of defenders. And when he rolls out you know hes just gonna wind up and attempt to throw out of bounds. Its been very depressing watching him play these last 1.5 seasons

Louis Nix would completely smoke Tommy Rees in a footrace.

 

[Irishman77]

Since this is a thread about Tommy, I will say something I have been thinking all season. If you threw that kid in the ocean he would sink to the bottom immediately. Lead footed doesn't do him justice...I am convinced he is composed of ununoctium from the ankles down. I have never seen such an unathletic QB in my life. He doesn't/cant move his feet in the pocket, any time he rolls out he cant reposition his feet on the move to give himself any chance to make a meaningful throw. Any time he has to make a sudden movement or cut, he pretty much just trips over his own feet or falls over. On one level its almost humorous to watch. On another level it pisses me off to no end because in combination with his flutterballs into tight or double coverage, it has killed my beloved Irish all season long.

you sir are awesome. my sentiments exactly.