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I must say sir, your avatar is my second favorite, only behind Walter Sobchak
 
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kmoose said:
Yes, it's a good thing that we didn't ask him to throw a 20+ yard fade to TJ Jones, against Michigan State. NO WAY does Tommy Rees make that throw!!
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And......Bingo was his Name'o. Well said, Moose.

Reps.

The FF is this years new bitterman of the board winner. Complaining about a win, unable to control bodily functions in a loss. This is going to be a fun season.
 
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kmoose said:
Yes, it's a good thing that we didn't ask him to throw a 20+ yard fade to TJ Jones, against Michigan State. NO WAY does Tommy Rees make that throw!!
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I didn't say it had anything due with his arm strenght. He is at his best when he is throwing short easier passes.
 
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Well a win is surely better than a loss, but to find anything that was good about that game is damn near impossible. The only thing good about the drive to take the lead in the 4th was that the receivers making great plays to extend the drive. The TD pass was too late and we are lucky it wasn't knocked away or picked off. Luckily Eifert had go-go gadget legs to get up in the air for some of the passes too. Theo's catch was a TERRIBLE throw. If that pass was on the mark he would have easily gotten at least 10-15 more yards.

Tommy was terrible today. There is no excuse for his play. He is extremely lucky that he wasn't benched. People on here talking about how crappy Dayne is/was compared to Rees are flat out delusional. They are equally bad. Dayne will stutter drives with worm burners, but Rees will turn the ball over with terrible decisions.

This offense is plain jane vanilla with Tommy on the field, and the opponents are easily adjusting to any of our strong suits. I haven't seen a single deep ball all season. If the TE is streaking down the seam and goes to far, Tommy won't throw the ball (I have seen this happen at least 4 times) Tommy makes his mind up before he takes the snap and doesn't do a single check down.

And finally to everybody saying 6-1 for Tommy... Seriously? He's almost averaging 3 TO's a game this year. Saying that he just wins is utter BS. If he would'nt of caused the TO's to begin with he'd be 7-0 according to all of you guys. He has been lucky to benefit from a good defensive output that hides his terrible performances.

Hendirx/Golsen/Crist- None of them could do any worse than what Tommy has given.
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Yeah, that's really the most concerning takeaway from this game. Ignoring turnovers and what have you; it's just disturbing how plain this offense is with Tommy and how many throws he can't make. Quick release, accurate... not enough arm strength to push the pull down or across the field.

But barring injury it looks like Tommy is our guy for the next 8 games.
 
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I just feel bad for the defense that has to go through a full season shouldering the extra possessions, minutes, and pressure of playing with a QB who will average 2/3 TOs per game.
 
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IrishLax said:
Yeah, that's really the most concerning takeaway from this game. Ignoring turnovers and what have you; it's just disturbing how plain this offense is with Tommy and how many throws he can't make. Quick release, accurate... not enough arm strength to push the pull down or across the field.

But barring injury it looks like Tommy is our guy for the next 8 games.
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On that first possession alone Tommy could have had 2 INTs.
 
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kmoose said:
Crist: 0-1 as a starter, this year.

Rees: 2-1 as a starter, this year.

Here's your sign............
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Crist and Rees played equal parts of the USF game. Why does the loss fall only on Crist, cause he started? Pretty shallow... And you're right, Rees deserves to claim this victory today almost as much as he can claim the win last year against USC. Just cause he is the starter doesn't mean he gets the "W".

He had a good drive that Eifert and Theo bailed him out on, and everybody wants to say it was so spectacular. We obviously don't watch the same games.. I don't drink though, so I am sure that plays a huge part.
 
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kmoose said:
I know what you said...... let me have the court reporter read it back to you:
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my bad i didn't finish what i wanted to say. I meant that you can't expect him to throw more then 20 yards more the 3 or 4 times a game.
 
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kmoose said:
Yes, it's a good thing that we didn't ask him to throw a 20+ yard fade to TJ Jones, against Michigan State. NO WAY does Tommy Rees make that throw!!
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I said it in the msu game thread, but we need to let Tommy throw that ball ATLEAST once a game. That over the shoulder lob from ~25 yds out is beautiful. He threw a couple nice balls on that play- week 1 to Floyd and week 3 to Jones
 
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kuehnja said:
I just feel bad for the defense that has to go through a full season shouldering the extra possessions, minutes, and pressure of playing with a QB who will average 2/3 TOs per game.
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You feel bad for a unit who's offense holds the ball for 3 minutes, per game, longer than the opponent's offense?

Per game TOP

ND: 31:07
OPP: 28:53
 
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WILL_ND_RETURN? said:
Crist and Rees played equal parts of the USF game. Why does the loss fall only on Crist, cause he started? Pretty shallow... And you're right, Rees deserves to claim this victory today almost as much as he can claim the win last year against USC. Just cause he is the starter doesn't mean he gets the "W".

He had a good drive that Eifert and Theo bailed him out on, and everybody wants to say it was so spectacular. We obviously don't watch the same games.. I don't drink though, so I am sure that plays a huge part.
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Rees also has the luxury of 2 great RBs, the best WR in college football and one of the best TEs, and a veteran O-line, and Maine had nearly twice as many passing yards vs. Pitt as Rees had.
 
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WILL_ND_RETURN? said:
Crist and Rees played equal parts of the USF game. Why does the loss fall only on Crist, cause he started? Pretty shallow... And you're right, Rees deserves to claim this victory today almost as much as he can claim the win last year against USC. Just cause he is the starter doesn't mean he gets the "W".

He had a good drive that Eifert and Theo bailed him out on, and everybody wants to say it was so spectacular. We obviously don't watch the same games.. I don't drink though, so I am sure that plays a huge part.
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If Jonas would have held on to the ball are we even having this conversation. Its funny how Jonas got a second chance, Goodman keeps getting a chance, Gary/ fox keeping getting second chances but Crist doesn't for a mistake he couldn't control??? If you ask me i think Kelly just dosen't like him.
 
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Rees also has the luxury of 2 great RBs, the best WR in college football and one of the best TEs, and a veteran O-line, and Maine had nearly twice as many passing yards vs. Pitt as Rees had.
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Last year, Mondo and Hughes, Floyd, and Kyle Rudolph... Que'?
 
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What gives me hope is that the players I'm typically very down on after one game usually nut up for the next week. I really hope that's what happens with Tommy. Actually, I really don't care who the QB is as long as they can win, preferably without slashing decades off of my life expectancy.
 
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If Jonas would have held on to the ball are we even having this conversation. Its funny how Jonas got a second chance, Goodman keeps getting a chance, Gary/ fox keeping getting second chances but Crist doesn't for a mistake he couldn't control??? If you ask me i think Kelly just dosen't like him.
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Fine by me... He's not his recruit and obviously doesn't fit his system.
 
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irishff1014 said:
If Jonas would have held on to the ball are we even having this conversation. Its funny how Jonas got a second chance, Goodman keeps getting a chance, Gary/ fox keeping getting second chances but Crist doesn't for a mistake he couldn't control??? If you ask me i think Kelly just dosen't like him.
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To clarify, I don't think Dayne is BETTER than Rees. I think that you get the same output between the both of them with mistakes being differnet between the two. Dayne will stall drives and get more three and outs than Rees, but Rees will cause more TO's.

The biggest difference though is that with Dayne, the playbook is expanded greatly. If the two provide the same output with the same amount of mistakes, then I would lean to whatever player I could maximze all of my other talent... But then again BK is the coach and I'm just a fan..
 
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HereComeTheIrish said:
Last year, Mondo and Hughes, Floyd, and Kyle Rudolph... Que'?
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With Crist, we put up 30+ points 5 of the 9 last year's season.

With Rees, we've put up 30+ in 2 of the 7 starts he's had (if you include last regular season).
 
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Crist definitely got a bad wrap for one bad half of football. I still think he is a bette quarterback than Rees, however, if Rees turns the ball over 2-3 times a game but consistently wins, I'm not mad at him. His only loss as a starter was the Michigan game that we were 45 seconds from winning before some serious choking by our defense
 
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kuehnja said:
With Crist, we put up 30+ points 5 of the 9 last year's season.

With Rees, we've put up 30+ in 2 of the 7 starts he's had (if you include last regular season).
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Under Crist, we went 4-5

Under Tommy, we've gone 6-1

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Crist got pulled after ONE bad half of the first game of the year (also his first game back from surgery).

Rees just had 2 terrible halves against the #119 pass defense in the nation.

Thank god our defense played well again, or people would be calling for BKs head at 1-3.
 
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