Super Conferences - Real possibility!!

[jonesman]

With the destruction of the Big 12 about to become reality with Oklahoma talking to the Pac-16, it is becoming a real possibility that ND will get pressured again to join the Big 10. I am coming to realize that ND will likely be forced into a conference in the next several years.

It looks like a real possibility that the BCS will become 4 Super Conferences of 16 teams. SEC, Big 16, Pac 16 and either the ACC-16 or Big East-16. If this happens, I hope ND chooses the Big 16. I don't want us in the Big East.

The only real issue I see with this is I can see our recruiting base change dramatically. It is doubtful that you would see ND getting as many CA, FL or NE kids. We would be fighting for the Midwest kids.

The positive is we can play cupcakes like the OSU's, Wisconsin's, MSU's to open our season. I get a real giggle out of everone fawning of a team like Wisconsin who plays UNLV to open the season. OSU gets to beat down on Akron. MSU starts with Youngstown St. They all claim this is because the conference schedule is soo tough. I understand, teams like Indiana, Minnesota, Purdue, Minnesota, Northwestern can be miserably tough, ha ha.

In the end, expect to see ND in a conference within a few years!!!

 

[irishff1014]

You are right. The Big 16 would be the best place for us to play.

 

[pumpdog20]

I've wanted ND to play in the Big Ten for a long time.

 

[LoveNDFootball]

With the destruction of the Big 12 about to become reality with Oklahoma talking to the Pac-16, it is becoming a real possibility that ND will get pressured again to join the Big 10. I am coming to realize that ND will likely be forced into a conference in the next several years.

It looks like a real possibility that the BCS will become 4 Super Conferences of 16 teams. SEC, Big 16, Pac 16 and either the ACC-16 or Big East-16. If this happens, I hope ND chooses the Big 16. I don't want us in the Big East.

The only real issue I see with this is I can see our recruiting base change dramatically. It is doubtful that you would see ND getting as many CA, FL or NE kids. We would be fighting for the Midwest kids.

The positive is we can play cupcakes like the OSU's, Wisconsin's, MSU's to open our season. I get a real giggle out of everone fawning of a team like Wisconsin who plays UNLV to open the season. OSU gets to beat down on Akron. MSU starts with Youngstown St. They all claim this is because the conference schedule is soo tough. I understand, teams like Indiana, Minnesota, Purdue, Minnesota, Northwestern can be miserably tough, ha ha.

In the end, expect to see ND in a conference within a few years!!!

I recently read a story about this (I'll try and find it). It was calling for Division I playoffs and it referenced super conferences, saying anyone outside of them will be out of the running. Four super conference champs and runner ups from each playing in a playoff.

Big East is destroyed. Some go to Big Ten along with ND. Big Ten splits into east & west with a conference championship game. ND, Penn State, Purdue, Syracuse, Rutgers and others would be east, Ohio State, Michigan, Iowa, Nebraska and others would be west.

Big 12 takes SMU, BYU, Boise State, TCU to make up for those leaving. Texas and Texas A&M go to the SEC. SEC also takes some Atlantic Conference teams.

Just predictions but with Nebraska, Oklahoma and Colorado already leaving or ready to leave their conference, and Texas A&M making noise, it may be happening.

 

[blue in ohio]

It would be great for ND to come to the big ten. I think it would help them. Being an independent could be a liability if the super conferences do form. Being in a conference will assure you a chance to win the NC while being without one will get you left out. Perhaps you could beat Ohio for us.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

If there are superconferences Notre Dame will have to be in one. Super conferences would essentially create a D-1 of 64 teams.

 

[koonja]

5) The Big East has reached out to multiple Big 12 universities and offered a soft landing in case Big 12 folds.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

5) The Big East has reached out to multiple Big 12 universities and offered a soft landing in case Big 12 folds.

Where are you reading that? Not saying its not true, just want to see it. Thanks

 

[DuffHouse12]

Big East is the place for Notre Dame. that's why they are in it for every other sport.

but we'll see, there have been a lot of "done deals" that have not come to fruition the past year.

 

[koonja]

PeteThamelNYT Pete Thamel
by hansensouthbend
5) The Big East has reached out to multiple Big 12 universities and offered a soft landing in case Big 12 folds.

Pete Thame. Retweeted by our very own, Eric Hansen.


My bad, I usually copy and paste the source but I must have missed it on that one.

 

[General Colon Bowel]

Stoops seems to think its gonna happen
Bob Stoops of Oklahoma Sooners on super-league -- Way 'the world's going' - ESPN

 

[DuffHouse12]

i love how the schools act as though its out of their hands, what a joke. A&M went to the SEC, not the other way around. the SEC was smart and said we can't even talk about this unless you're not bound by contract with another conference, because thats tampering.

thats the world we live in.

 

[crzychris]

If the national title hunt turns into a playoffs from these hypothetical super-conferences, would the vast majority of bowls be destroyed? I'm on the verge of thinking that would be the case, unfortunately.

 

[Veer option]

would the vast majority of bowls be destroyed?.

No, too much money in the bowls.

 

[NDMontana]

Big East is the place for Notre Dame. that's why they are in it for every other sport.

but we'll see, there have been a lot of "done deals" that have not come to fruition the past year.

I don't know about that. The Big Least has been exposed as unworthy of being a BCS automatic quLifying conference. if the Mountain West had picked up Boise State before TCU, UU and BYU bolted it might have displaced the Big East.
If ND is going to be squeezed into a conference I think they better go Big 10.
This whole thing pisses me off. As the "haves" don't have enough, they need to squeeze out the crumbs that.the little guys get every once in a while.
If I had my druthers I'd rather see the NCAA go to some sort of Premier League type arrangement whereby you have to earn your spot every year. Really, the only teams benefitting from super conferences are the schools that already have it all while schools like ND and Boise get punished. Meanwhile schools like Vandy and Washington State get very nice incidental benefits which are entirely undeserved.

 

[NDOM]

We would get STOMPED in the Big 10/16 or whatever you want to call it. If we are gonna be able to compete and win games we better go to the Sun Belt.

 

[jonesman]

NDOM,
I am sorry, but I must totally disagree with your thoughts on ND getting stomped in the Big Ten. I truly believe we would be one of the top teams right NOW. One of our biggest struggles is the fact we play so many different types of offenses and we play no cupcakes.

First, look at the majority of the offenses in the Big Ten. They are power pro-set offenses with some spread mixed in. At ND, we are playing option spread one week, pro-set next, pure spread next, and then on to the option. Much easier to gear up to defend on style of Offense that you will see the majority of the season.

Further, it is very very helpful to start your season with multiple cupcakes. Look at who the big powers of the Big Ten played this past week. OSU played Akron, UM played WMU, Wisconsin played UNLV, MSU played Youngstown St. Our weakest opponent on the schedule this season comes from the Big Ten. Our non BCS opponents of Navy and AF would destroy every opponent these Big Ten powers played this week. Look in particular at the schedule of Wisconsin. They started with UNLV. They play one tough non-conference game of Oregon St, but toss in Northern Ill and South Dakota after that. I did not even know there was a college in South Dakota?? They will be able to get thru the first 4 weeks of football with their starters playing about half the snaps in 3 of 4 games.

So, I don't be buying all that Big Ten plays such a brutal schedule stuff.

 

[NDOM]

NDOM,
I am sorry, but I must totally disagree with your thoughts on ND getting stomped in the Big Ten. I truly believe we would be one of the top teams right NOW. One of our biggest struggles is the fact we play so many different types of offenses and we play no cupcakes.

First, look at the majority of the offenses in the Big Ten. They are power pro-set offenses with some spread mixed in. At ND, we are playing option spread one week, pro-set next, pure spread next, and then on to the option. Much easier to gear up to defend on style of Offense that you will see the majority of the season.

Further, it is very very helpful to start your season with multiple cupcakes. Look at who the big powers of the Big Ten played this past week. OSU played Akron, UM played WMU, Wisconsin played UNLV, MSU played Youngstown St. Our weakest opponent on the schedule this season comes from the Big Ten. Our non BCS opponents of Navy and AF would destroy every opponent these Big Ten powers played this week. Look in particular at the schedule of Wisconsin. They started with UNLV. They play one tough non-conference game of Oregon St, but toss in Northern Ill and South Dakota after that. I did not even know there was a college in South Dakota?? They will be able to get thru the first 4 weeks of football with their starters playing about half the snaps in 3 of 4 games.

So, I don't be buying all that Big Ten plays such a brutal schedule stuff.

We would lose to Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa (most likely), Nebraska, Wisconsin, and dare I say Northwestern? So that's 5 teams right there that would beat us as of now.

 

[IrishandColts]

NDOM,
I am sorry, but I must totally disagree with your thoughts on ND getting stomped in the Big Ten. I truly believe we would be one of the top teams right NOW. One of our biggest struggles is the fact we play so many different types of offenses and we play no cupcakes.

First, look at the majority of the offenses in the Big Ten. They are power pro-set offenses with some spread mixed in. At ND, we are playing option spread one week, pro-set next, pure spread next, and then on to the option. Much easier to gear up to defend on style of Offense that you will see the majority of the season.

Further, it is very very helpful to start your season with multiple cupcakes. Look at who the big powers of the Big Ten played this past week. OSU played Akron, UM played WMU, Wisconsin played UNLV, MSU played Youngstown St. Our weakest opponent on the schedule this season comes from the Big Ten. Our non BCS opponents of Navy and AF would destroy every opponent these Big Ten powers played this week. Look in particular at the schedule of Wisconsin. They started with UNLV. They play one tough non-conference game of Oregon St, but toss in Northern Ill and South Dakota after that. I did not even know there was a college in South Dakota?? They will be able to get thru the first 4 weeks of football with their starters playing about half the snaps in 3 of 4 games.

So, I don't be buying all that Big Ten plays such a brutal schedule stuff.

well said.

 

[pkt77242]

If the national title hunt turns into a playoffs from these hypothetical super-conferences, would the vast majority of bowls be destroyed? I'm on the verge of thinking that would be the case, unfortunately.

Why would they be destroyed? Unless a ton of prorgams drop down to FCS, there will still be a ton of programs to play in lower tier bowls. And don't give the arguement of a playoff will kill them as the lower tier bowls still don't mean anything but we all watch them.

 

[pkt77242]

We would lose to Michigan, Michigan State, Iowa (most likely), Nebraska, Wisconsin, and dare I say Northwestern? So that's 5 teams right there that would beat us as of now.

The way the conference is set up, I don't think we would play all of them in one season. Plus we will see about Michigan and MSU here in the next couple of weeks. I think we win at least one of the two if not both.

 

[NDMontana]

The bolded part is the reason that I am nervous. If ND doesnt go on that mini-run to end the season, does ND even get Tuitt, Ishaq, and Aaron? I do not want to see decommits.

I have argued, for years, that ND needed to start winning before the school's marquee name and success fades from memory. Well, most kids today don't remember ND being a powerhouse but the good recruits keep coming. So I don't know if you can read much into one bad season ruining recruiting.
As far as the team's future, I am much more concerned about the potential that there ends up being three huge so-called super conferences (although half the teams in the prospective conferences still suck so I don't think there is anything super about them) and ND holds out. They would end up playing home and home series with Navy, Army, Bowling Green.....you get it.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

As far as the team's future, I am much more concerned about the potential that there ends up being three huge so-called super conferences (although half the teams in the prospective conferences still suck so I don't think there is anything super about them) and ND holds out. They would end up playing home and home series with Navy, Army, Bowling Green.....you get it.

Super-conferences only make sense if there's four with a +1 playoff.

I'm sure Savvy Jack will make sure we land on our feet. Losing our independence would kill me, but if it's inevitable, we'll have a soft landing in the Big ACC or the Big Tweleve.

 

[NDMontana]

Super-conferences only make sense if there's four with a +1 playoff.

I'm sure Savvy Jack will make sure we land on our feet. Losing our independence would kill me, but if it's inevitable, we'll have a soft landing in the Big ACC or the Big Tweleve.

Ugh. I keep hearing that when all shakedowns CFB will end up with SEC, Big Ten and PAC 60 (or whatever they're gunning for member wise) and then a bunch of crappy little lesser conferences. Thing I don't get is why you would want to increase your travel so dramatically and **** away rivalry games. Heard Stoops talking tonight about no more OU vs. UT. You gotta be kidding me! A&M in the SEC? Who is their natural rival there? LSU, Arkansas?
I think this whole thing is idiotic. I've never an idea like this dreampt up overnight and put into motion the next day. I keep thinking this thing is going to be a grand experiment, last about four years and then there's going to some sort of long lasting, substantive change to the system.

 

[koonja]

ChiTribHamilton Brian Hamilton
RT @PeteThamelNYT: There's a Texas-#NotreDame-Big Ten email/blog/conspiracy theory floating around. Its not true. Not even close.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Big 12 is about to crumble.

Orangebloods.com - Sources say OU board ready to apply to Pac-12

EDIT:

Then there is this:
"@kbohls: A UT group including its president and two ADs flew to Norman on Sunday for last-ditch effort to try to keep OU in the Big 12."

 

[DuffHouse12]

Big XII needs to just kick Texas out and sign up Boise State and BYU.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

It would be nice to be in the big 10, so maybe we wouldn't have to play Denard in week 2 and we could play him in week 8 when he is all beat up!

BTW, NDOM WTF!? Yeah I can accept the irishduck and whatever last year, but MSU and Go spartens...