Diamond Formation

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Just did a little write up on the diamond formation that Ok St and Oklahoma used last year. Now West Virginia is going to used it. What do you guys think of this formation and what would you think about ND using it?

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Reverse wishbone out of the shotgun. It is a neat formation when every thing works as it should, but when it doesn't it looks awful.

IMO ND doesn't have enough backs/slots to make it a credible threat.
 

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from a defensive standpoint, not very hard to defend....the highlight clip you show proves it.

trends like this come and go...
 

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The power group calls for Mike Ragone at one of the “RB” positions to be used primarily as a blocker.

Agree with that part. I expect Ragone to get used primarily as a Fullback this season.

I don't think we'll see Kelly utilize much of this formation mainly because it requires two RBs on the field at once, which is the thinnest area on our depth chart. Not to mention that Jonas isn't going to demand much respect from opposing defenses until he figures out how to run between the tackles.
 

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Reverse wishbone out of the shotgun. It is a neat formation when every thing works as it should, but when it doesn't it looks awful.

IMO ND doesn't have enough backs/slots to make it a credible threat.

I think it is exactly what we will see or some version atleast.

With slight built backs in Atkinson and McDaniel and slot/scat backs prototypes in Toma and Riddick, we certainly have the personel to run this.

I like the idea of having the defense on a yo-yo.
 

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I have no delusions that we wont see it, but I foresee more formations out of the Pistol than this Diamond formation. The Pistol is a much better formation due to NDs lack of RB depth.
 

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I have no delusions that we wont see it, but I foresee more formations out of the Pistol than this Diamond formation. The Pistol is a much better formation due to NDs lack of RB depth.

Or what FLA. used to do with Harvin and Tebow. Shot gun, split back and involve Harvin in the mix.

Snap, fake a dive to Gray then you have Riddick and Wood, one for the inside option and one for the outside, ala Harvin. You can also pass out of this or just hand the ball to Gray up the gut.

Kelly should be able to manuver a dozen plays out of this formation.
 

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from a defensive standpoint, not very hard to defend....the highlight clip you show proves it.

trends like this come and go...

It does force single coverage on the WR (Floyd) a lot of times. Okie St, ran it pretty effective last season with Justin Blackmon. That was the only footage I could find, but we will see what West Virginia does this year... As for Notre Dame I don't know if we have the personel or not, it's fun to think of how to get all our different players on the field though and ways to keep the defense guessing.
 
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I think we might see some formations like this with Riddick moving back to the RB position and having Wood or Gray lined up on the other side. This may become a bigger factor when Hendrix/Golson take the helm.



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Funny thing about this, I made this formation about two years ago for my youth football team (which chewed up yardage in this formation btw). Who knew I was an innovater!?!?! (I had no idea this actually existed)

It's practically the Flexbone in Shotgun.
 

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If you jam the ever-living $%#@ out of the backs on the line, this becomes a non-entity. No bueno.
 

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Endless ennui ..... in a desperate attempt at surviving the end of July, I offer the following alternative offensive pattern: this was telepathically sent to me by Neutered, so he deserves the full credit. It is called the "Knocker", sort of a partial transliteration of "leprechaun" spelled backwards [ you know, "nuahcer-pel"]. [hey, it's my story....]

This offensive alignment is best understood by a visualization.

Notre Dame has as usual swept down the field between the twenties but found the going tough in the red zone. This time, Dayne found Mike Floyd for a first down at the four, but Cierre was stacked up at the three. Kelly shook his head and turned to page 926 in the playbook. He turned to the sideline and yelled "Knocker!!". Five guys let out whoops and slammed on their helmets.

On the field, Dayne is momentarily confused. There goes Cierre and Jonas is coming out, but Mike is taking the whole receiving corps off the field with him. Behind Jonas are what seem to be a whole crowd of guys. In fact there are only four --- they just look like a whole crowd. Dayne recognizes a big redhead [one of the seven highest structures in Indiana] and says: "Oh, Knocker."

Notre Dame breaks the huddle. The middle linebacker yells "jumbo!" He's correct. Chase Hounshell lines up beside Zach Martin on the Left. Tony Springmann lines up beside Taylor Dever on the right. The DE who has been battling Taylor all day looks at Springmann and mutters: "Gawd..."

Just flanked outside Tony is Troy Niklas, the largest most athletic, meanest flanker in football history. The DBs on that side are considering calling time out. The middle linebacker shifts the strength of his line towards Springmann. They become slightly more relaxed.

Dayne finds himself under center with a small giggle that he has to suppress. Deep in the "I" is Jonas. Between him and Dayne is a very large entity named Ishaq. Everyone is now considering calling time-out.

The ball's snapped. It's deception and we run left. Troy and Tony don't mind; they blast the wadden out of somebody anyway, just for fun. Chase comes off the ball like a Tasmanian Devil, chips Zach's DE, who then is pancaked. Hounshell swallows up the nearby linebacker.

Ishaq begins to move. The corner decides that he must have outside contain [despite no one being there] and gets out of the way. Ishaq immediately alters his course towards the strong safety, who is not feeling so strong at the moment but is going to take one for the team. Bad things happen. Jonas hands the ball to the official deep in the endzone.

Dayne is at the five smiling. "Why didn't coach go to page 927 so I could fake it to Jonas and score myself?" On the sidelines, Andrew Hendrix catches the telepathic vibe. "Sorry, Dayne, that's MY play!". Golson nudges him: "want to race for it?"

Kelly just smiles with a devilish gleam in his eye: "Knock-Out...".




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You gotta love a good running game. Love Chris Collinsworth commentary........We need more players like Ray Zellars. I loved how he ran over that Purdue player.......
 

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I had a stupid grin on my face reading that whole post, until I got to:

Bad things happen.

... at which point I chortled. Quite loudly. Which I then had to explain to my wife.

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Old Man Mike, the knocker will sweep the nation. I haven't figured out if your a genius or a mental patient... My guess is both! Keep up the good work.

Ray Zellars is a beast I forgot about that run.
 

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We have a mental hospital in Pocatalico, West Virginia. My Dad used to say that it was the Center of the Universe, as you start there and go anywhere.


Ummmm...it dawns on me that the state mental hospital is in Milton [should any of you wish to self-commit]. Whereas you can still start from Pocatalico and go anywhere, perhaps Milton should be labeled the "Off-Center of the Universe". You can start from there and go "where no man has gone before". Upon arrival you will meet, much to your distress ... Neutered.

He will have already gathered all the beautiful women.
 
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Old Man Mike, the knocker will sweep the nation. I haven't figured out if your a genius or a mental patient... My guess is both! Keep up the good work.

Ray Zellars is a beast I forgot about that run.

Giving dshans and neutered a much needed day off.............

it's you're!
 

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Giving dshans and neutered a much needed day off.............

it's you're!

Whoa. You can't get away with sh!t on this board. Haha! Is this a board no no or something? Hopefully u...uh I mean you, like bad grammar and spelling 'cause I'm usually typing on my phone or iPad and those two things usually go out the window.
 
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