Illinois 31, Michigan 31 (HALFTIME)

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A> Greg Robinson beat us.
B> We have lost to DickRod 2 out of 3 years.

I can only pray that he never gets a defense there, because my prediction about not ever beating him after last year is coming true.

Does he have enough time to build a defense? That offense cannot carry him forever. He won't win a whole lot of games without a defense.



Harbaugh is not going to UM.

Sure he might.
 

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Does he have enough time to build a defense? That offense cannot carry him forever. He won't win a whole lot of games without a defense.





Sure he might.

If he gets an NFL gig your damn right he is NFL bound.
 

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If he gets an NFL gig your damn right he is NFL bound.

Yes, if he has an NFL offer. But if at the end of the season UM was calling offering him twice as much $$ and San Fran, etc. wasn't... well, there is definitely a solid chance he would take the job.
 

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Harbaugh gets any NFL offer and he'll take the best one for him. A choice between UM & the NFL is a no brainer. You take the NFL.

PS: I would bet my house on the fact that Miles will also not be UMs coach.
 

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Harbaugh gets any NFL offer and he'll take the best one for him. A choice between UM & the NFL is a no brainer. You take the NFL.

PS: I would bet my house on the fact that Miles will also not be UMs coach.

Everyone agrees on the part I bolded.

What everyone does not agree with is that Harbaugh will get "any NFL offer." While he would certainly be a front runner for a number of positions (I would guess a Minnesota or San Fran) there are plenty of owners who refuse to take someone straight from the college ranks.

To assume he will get "any NFL offer" is ludicrous.
 

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Everyone agrees on the part I bolded.

What everyone does not agree with is that Harbaugh will get "any NFL offer." While he would certainly be a front runner for a number of positions (I would guess a Minnesota or San Fran) there are plenty of owners who refuse to take someone straight from the college ranks.

To assume he will get "any NFL offer" is ludicrous.

Not when the family pedigree is "Harbaugh". Joe Schmoe no roots in football might get a second glance, but I am darn sure that there are plenty of teams looking at him.
 

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I'd like to point out to the Rod haters (most of you, I know) that RR pulled Denard because he had a headache and felt a little dizzy. A lot of IE posters have criticized RR for his lack of care for his players, and that his only want is to win. I think this puts that to bed, with the game in question Denard was sitting on the bench. Even after feeling better he was not allowed back in.
 

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I guess the over/under was 57 points for this game. They only covered it by 75.
 

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I'd like to point out to the Rod haters (most of you, I know) that RR pulled Denard because he had a headache and felt a little dizzy. A lot of IE posters have criticized RR for his lack of care for his players, and that his only want is to win. I think this puts that to bed, with the game in question Denard was sitting on the bench. Even after feeling better he was not allowed back in.

maybe if Denard told the coach he didnt have good vision in one of his eyes, he would have let him go back in. :eek:
 

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Damnit this defense is making pull my hair out.

This was the most points Michigan has allowed since a 58-6 loss to Cornell in 1891.

AND WE WON.

I'm damn happy we won, I'm damn happy we're going to a bowl, But RichRod needs to go I still think. PF-PA this season is 350-305.

Just take a look at Harbaughs defense. You guys know about it, he waxed ND this season (no offense or shots intended)

And Harbaugh's defense was waxed by Oregon's spread.

As bad as UM's defense has been, they are very young, with 12 of the 18 players who saw the field last Saturday freshmen or sophomores. And they don't need a dominant defense; with an average defense they would be undefeated.

Rather than trash BK, ND fans should look at where UM is in their third year replacing a pro style offense with a spread. Keep in mind that RR had 13 returning offensive starts his first year (one player) so he was literally starting from scratch. To successfully run the spread it takes the right kind of fast athletic players, conditioned for a fast game, with enough experience in the offense that plays become instinctive, and it's nowhere more important than on the offensive line.

UM's offensive line was a disaster the first year, not very good last year. With RR's first full recruiting class in their second year in his sytem how are they doing?

UM's offense for the season:

- #1 in total offense in the B10, #5 nationally
- #1 in rushing offense in the B10, #9 nationally
- #1 in sacks allowed in the B10, #4 nationally
- #1 in first downs in the B10, #13 nationally
- #2 in scoring offense in the B10, #12 nationally
- #2 in passing offense in the B10, #28 nationally
- #4 in pass efficiency in the B10, #14 nationally

And keeping in mind the running backs, quarterbacks (from 89 through Henne, every qb that started for UM went on to start in the NFL, and a couple of weeks ago there were 3 UM qb's listed as starters on Sunday), and receivers (A Carter, B Edwards, Manningham, Arrington, etc.) that have come out of UM, their 2010 offense:

- On track to be the all time most productive offense in Big 10 history, blowing the previous Michigan record away (Grbac, Desmond Howard, Tyrone Wheatley in 92 have previous record)
- Most yards per carry in UM history
- Most yards per play in UM history
- Most yards by a receiver in a single game in UM history
- Most total yards in a game by a qb in UM history
- Most rushing yards by a qb in Big 10 history (broke this all time record with four games to go)
- #1 rusher in the nation
- Most career 200/200 yd games in NCAA history (only 5 players did this once in a career, DR did it twice in his first season starting)
- Most passing yards by a UM qb in a single game in UM history
- Most points per game at UM in post-WWII era
- Third highest rushing yards per game in UM history, sixth in Big 10 history
- Third highest passing yards per game in UM history
- Most first downs per game in UM history
- DR is only 76 yards away from breaking the all time UM season total yards record (I think Navarre has the record), should happen in the first quarter Sat

It's not a one man show, backup qb's have been responsible for around 100 points so far this year. And it's still a very young offense, losing only one starter for next year.

To get there they have suffered some of the worst performances in UM history, but their patience has been rewarded with a record-setting offense. By 2012 both sides of the ball should be much improved from this year and they will be hitting their stride.

My point? ND fans need to show patience. BK has been wildly successful wherever he's coached, and once he has time to get his players in place and gain experience, ND will rise to the top.
 
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Harbaugh I dod believe will be going to the NFL. There will be a good amount of openings and he can get paid big. YOu have Dallas,Minn,Carolina, ANd possibly the Chargers,Jacksonville,Arizona. So he will have alot of people looking into him.
 

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Laservet, with all due respect. Charlie Weis's offense was pretty damn good as well. Unfortunately in 5 years he could never get the defense up to snuff and it cost him his job.

Point is, being a guru on one side of the ball generally doesn't work out too well for you in the end.
 

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True, phork, but Weiss had his full five years, what you saw at that point is all you were going to get. BK is certainly not known for his defenses, but if he gets his offense rolling the defense only has to be good, not great.
 

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Harbaugh I dod believe will be going to the NFL. There will be a good amount of openings and he can get paid big. YOu have Dallas,Minn,Carolina, ANd possibly the Chargers,Jacksonville,Arizona. So he will have alot of people looking into him.

If Harbaugh goes to the nfl, which i think he will it will be dallas.....jerry jones will offer him some ridiculous contract
 

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Laservet, with all due respect. Charlie Weis's offense was pretty damn good as well. Unfortunately in 5 years he could never get the defense up to snuff and it cost him his job.

Point is, being a guru on one side of the ball generally doesn't work out too well for you in the end.

But Weis had a VERY one dimensional offence, from 07-09 your rush O ranked 115/100/84. So having a weak D and a easy to defend O doesn't make for a good team.
 

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The O might have been predictable but not many teams could stop it. Believe me, I am no supporter of Weis. I wanted him to succeed as a native son. But the defense got him fired. Much like I think it will RichRod.

67-65 is a further indictment of how low this program has sunk. When was the last time you heard Michigan and Bowl Eligible in the same sentence? It was automatic. The defense is going to be just as bad next year.

For any Michigan fans to say this team is any better you are delusional. In every game the stats were over whelming. Upon further review in your cornhole stomping by MSU, Iowa & Penn St. Your O disappeared until you were down by 21 and the other team packed it up.

Harbaugh is not going to Dallas, I think Jones will hire John Fox as the next coach. PS: Dan Hawkins is available!
 
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