Fr. Jenkins Email to Student Body

[Irish52]

In Father Jenkins, we are blessed to have a voice of saneness and I couldn't be prouder of his willingness to take responsibiity for this tragic answer. My faith in Notre Dame grows stronger with each passing year since 1952. It is that faith which sustains me in my darkest moments.

 

[enrico514]

Without pointing a finger or singling anyone out,"making judgements" is not the same as, "passing judgements." I passed no form of ultimate judgement about the administrators at Notre Dame nor did I pass a sentence.

I am pointing out issues of character which I believe should be the embodiement of Catholicism and Notre Dame. Speaking in legalize and running cover in light of this needless death is not, "doing things the right way." History is filled with great men of great deeds who will be forever remembered for a momentary lapse of sound judgement. When a life is lost as a result, the costs to reputation become higher.

I appreciate the,"heads up" on the stone throwing. I'll be fine standing in the open taking people's shots rather than hiding in a locker room or a glass tower blowing smoke.

Peace

"I read Father Jenkins Email with shame and disgust. He is obviously a fine beuracrat with instincts that lead him to protect his culpable coach more than the integrity of honest discourse."

English isn't my first language but unless I am mistaking you say Brian Kelly is CULPABLE in your first sentence and indirectly questioning the INTEGRITY of Father Jenkins.

"The reputation and integrity of all of us lies in the hands of Kelly, Swarbrick and Jenkins. A football team is not worth our collective reputations."

We agree 100% on this and I'm sure almost everyone else does. The collective reputation of the school would also be tarnished by using Brian Kelly as a scapegoat before all the facts are known.

"Paying the poor Sullivans off with millions won't bring Declean back or assuage his loss. Every time Coach Kelly walks the sidelines represtenting us the world will be reminded that Notre Dame put football above integrity. Coaches are a lot more common than integrity and the promise of a life cut short by gross negligance."

Once again... my English may be bad but you are again implying that Brian Kelly is responsible for this tragedy before having all the facts. Paying off the Sullivans won't bring Declan back nor will punishing and/or destroying the reputation of someone before all the facts are known. The one thing they do owe the Sullivans is taking the time to find out what exactly happened and making sure this never happens again at ND or on any other campus.

"I hope all who read this search their souls and write Father Jenkins to tell him that as much as Coach Kelly was the perfect fit at the begining of the season, he can never be perfect for us any more."[/I]

Judgement seems to be passed here again. You say that he can never be perfect for us any more without knowing all the facts.

Personal responsibility is a value I like to think Catholics and Notre Dame people embody to our cores. Here's hoping someone in the administration lives up to these values with actions more than money and words.

It seems to me that ND has accepted responsibility for the tragedy and are now taking the time to figure out what happened before passing judgement on any one individual.

 

[BleedsGold]

English isn't my first language either. Maybe that's the chasm between our honest disagreement.

The characterizations about my perspectives are certainly another aspect of our apparent disagreement. It appears that some people see it your way and some see it mine.

I appreciate the debate. I assure you I disagree strongly with your assesment of how this has been handled by administration and your characterizations of my judgements. Kelly, Swarbrick, Father Jenkins and anyone else who wants to put their head in the sand embarass me at this juncture.

Respecfully - BleedsGold

 

[BearGB]

Fr. Jenkins wrote a wonderful letter. I'm not going to get into petty arguments here, but what more do you want him to say, rather than: "Yet this loss is more devastating, for Declan died in a tragic accident while in our care. For that, I am profoundly sorry. We are conducting an investigation and we must be careful not to pre-judge its results, but I will say this: Declan Sullivan was entrusted to our care, and we failed to keep him safe. We at Notre Dame — and ultimately I, as President — are responsible. Words cannot express our sorrow to the Sullivan family and to all involved."

He took complete responsibility. I have had the privilege of meeting him a couple times, and he is a man of integrity and thoughtfulness. I have heard many people say that he spends long, long hours in the chapel at night praying when large administration issues have arisen. Have I disagreed with a couple decisions he has made? Yes. Do I think he is an extremely capable and thoughtful president? Yes, I do, and I will be willing to support that point to anyone who may see differently.

 

[Jason Pham]

BleedsGold, your reading comprehension seems to me to be selective at best. I point you to the follow passage of the email:

"Yet this loss is more devastating, for Declan died in a tragic accident while in our care. For that, I am profoundly sorry... Declan Sullivan was entrusted to our care, and we failed to keep him safe. We at Notre Dame and ultimately I as president are responsible. Words cannot express our sorrow to the Sullivan family and to all involved."

If this is to you not a statement of personal responsibility from Father Jenkins, then I am curious what such a statement would look like.

As for Kelly and Swarbrick, their responsibility in the accident will be, as Father Jenkins wrote, investigated by an outside body. Unless you are privy to the information that seems to escape even those closest to the matter, anything you have to say regarding the direct responsibility of any one person in what happened is speculation at best, perhaps libelous, and distasteful at worst.

 

[DCirishfan]

I still think JS is in trouble.

 

[BleedsGold]

Here's cutting to the chase. I'd hate it if anyone thought I were mincing words.

If I were Father Jenkins I would have had Jack Swarbrick in my office with the answers to this situation 24 hours. If there areas of concern about what actually happened I'd be upfront specifically about what those were and let the students, their parents, the Sullivan family, faculty, alums, the Catholic community at large and the rest of the world who had an interest what our time table for answers would be.

I would have cancelled the Tulsa game and suspended all football related activities until we had satisfactory annswers to this senseless death. I would have personally met with the Sullivan family and seen to it that Mr. Swarbrick, Coach Kelly and his support staff were available to them to answer any and all questions they had.

I would have acted like that young man were actually my own as opposed to behaving like a beuracrat trying to tapdance through a minefield of litigation.

"On my watch as president of one of the greatest institutions of morality and higher learning a student needlessly lost his life." "While I can never make this up I will personally see to it that the Sullivans needs in this enormous time of loss is met before anything else.The reputation of our name and looking after the well being of most precious commodity comes before all else."

I'd have an independant lift contractor inspect the unit that tipped over; review the reported tweets and texts; interview the head videographer, assistant coaches and head coach about the incident and if I felt even remotely uncomfortable about any of the answers I received from any of my staff, I'd terminate their employment.

This is not as complicated as the University is making it seem. To me, they are belaboring a process to protect their backsides.

I respect the differing opinions here. Turning my words into issues of semantics does not cloud the need for transparency, honesty and integrity. I care about Notre Dame as much or more as any of the current posters. I just care about our integrity and honor of all of us more than I care about a winning record or another coach in this frustrating carosel.

Appreciate the open minded responses and the opportunity to intellectually explore a topic which has affected all of us so.

 

[BearGB]

Here's cutting to the chase. I'd hate it if anyone thought I were mincing words.

If I were Father Jenkins I would have had Jack Swarbrick in my office with the answers to this situation 24 hours. If there areas of concern about what actually happened I'd be upfront specifically about what those were and let the students, their parents, the Sullivan family, faculty, alums, the Catholic community at large and the rest of the world who had an interest what our time table for answers would be.

I would have cancelled the Tulsa game and suspended all football related activities until we had satisfactory annswers to this senseless death. I would have personally met with the Sullivan family and seen to it that Mr. Swarbrick, Coach Kelly and his support staff were available to them to answer any and all questions they had.

I would have acted like that young man were actually my own as opposed to behaving like a beuracrat trying to tapdance through a minefield of litigation.

"On my watch as president of one of the greatest institutions of morality and higher learning a student needlessly lost his life." "While I can never make this up I will personally see to it that the Sullivans needs in this enormous time of loss is met before anything else.The reputation of our name and looking after the well being of most precious commodity comes before all else."

I'd have an independant lift contractor inspect the unit that tipped over; review the reported tweets and texts; interview the head videographer, assistant coaches and head coach about the incident and if I felt even remotely uncomfortable about any of the answers I received from any of my staff, I'd terminate their employment.

This is not as complicated as the University is making it seem. To me, they are belaboring a process to protect their backsides.

I respect the differing opinions here. Turning my words into issues of semantics does not cloud the need for transparency, honesty and integrity. I care about Notre Dame as much or more as any of the current posters. I just care about our integrity and honor of all of us more than I care about a winning record or another coach in this frustrating carosel.

Appreciate the open minded responses and the opportunity to intellectually explore a topic which has affected all of us so.

I'm done arguing after this, because it shifts the focus on blaming people rather than remembering Declan. However, some of these points are absolutely ridiculous. Of course Jenkins has either already done or is currently doing these things, with the exception of both cancelling the Tulsa game, which was seriously considered, and prematurely stating the areas and people of concern, which is completely unfair to those being investigated. They decided to play the game in honor of Declan. The students and the administration have done so, so much to handle this tragic situation. Bleedsgold - all I can say, is that I wish you could have been at the memorial mass (which Fr. Jenkins presided over). I feel like you would have had a much different perspective.

 

[NankerPhelge]

That this was a horrible and needless tragedy goes without saying.

As far as placing responsibility, seems like some pretty simple questions to me. Was there one individual who was in charge of whether the damned lift went up, or not. If not, was it a group decision, a "rule by committee?" Or, was there a dearth of thoughtlessness so that nobody was in charge? Until we have the answers to those questions, all of the speculation and pontificating seems like nothing more than serious mental masturbation to me.

 

[kmoose]

Here's cutting to the chase. I'd hate it if anyone thought I were mincing words.

If I were Father Jenkins I would have had Jack Swarbrick in my office with the answers to this situation 24 hours. If there areas of concern about what actually happened I'd be upfront specifically about what those were and let the students, their parents, the Sullivan family, faculty, alums, the Catholic community at large and the rest of the world who had an interest what our time table for answers would be.

I would have cancelled the Tulsa game and suspended all football related activities until we had satisfactory annswers to this senseless death. I would have personally met with the Sullivan family and seen to it that Mr. Swarbrick, Coach Kelly and his support staff were available to them to answer any and all questions they had.

I would have acted like that young man were actually my own as opposed to behaving like a beuracrat trying to tapdance through a minefield of litigation.

"On my watch as president of one of the greatest institutions of morality and higher learning a student needlessly lost his life." "While I can never make this up I will personally see to it that the Sullivans needs in this enormous time of loss is met before anything else.The reputation of our name and looking after the well being of most precious commodity comes before all else."

I'd have an independant lift contractor inspect the unit that tipped over; review the reported tweets and texts; interview the head videographer, assistant coaches and head coach about the incident and if I felt even remotely uncomfortable about any of the answers I received from any of my staff, I'd terminate their employment.

This is not as complicated as the University is making it seem. To me, they are belaboring a process to protect their backsides.

I respect the differing opinions here. Turning my words into issues of semantics does not cloud the need for transparency, honesty and integrity. I care about Notre Dame as much or more as any of the current posters. I just care about our integrity and honor of all of us more than I care about a winning record or another coach in this frustrating carosel.

Appreciate the open minded responses and the opportunity to intellectually explore a topic which has affected all of us so.

"Life is hard; it's even harder when you are stupid."

-- John Wayne

 

[chyrspchuck]

People should have to pass a test before becoming a member of IrishEnvy, if that were the case we wouldn't get such ridiculous first time posts.

 

[NDFan537]

I wasn't gonna touch this. I just wanted to read the letter, but wow. We got some real geniuses amongst us.

If BK threatened someone with their job (which I doubt seriously) that would be grounds for termination. Other than that he is the Head Football Coach of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. Not an engineer or the head of the video department. There is someone directly at blame that knew the conditions and the safety spec. on the machinery being used. I hope that is not BK, he has a little more to worry about, and that is why he hires assistants to take care of other areas. Someone made a huge mistake, but I can see no way it will fall back on BK himself.

As for the shots at Fr. Jenkins. That is up-surd, and you should be banned. He is in all ways trying to resolve this issue. He hired an outside party to oversee, and the reason he is giving bureaucratic, in your opinion, answers is he is the President of The University of Notre Dame and isn't allotted the luxury of speculation. He doesn't have the facts, there for can not answer the burning question. He did not say BK was innocent, he said his own feeling is he will be found innocent. That is him having faith in the character of the man he hired to lead his pupils to victory.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

I read Father Jenkins Email with shame and disgust. He is obviously a fine beuracrat with instincts that lead him to protect his culpable coach more than the integrity of honest discourse.

If this had happened at USC with Pete Carol or Michigan with Boo Boo Bear, we would all be screaming bloody murder.

The reputation and integrity of all of us lies in the hands of Kelly, Swarbrick and Jenkins. A football team is not worth our collective reputations.

Two young people who have a momentary lapse of judgement and create a life do far better with their subsequent responsible actions than they do with money or words.

Right now we are all holding our breath to see to it that the physical actions of our leaders represent who we are as Catholics and human beings.
Paying the poor Sullivans off with millions won't bring Declean back or assuage his loss. Every time Coach Kelly walks the sidelines represtenting us the world will be reminded that Notre Dame put football above integrity. Coaches are a lot more common than integrity and the promise of a life cut short by gross negligance.

I hope all who read this search their souls and write Father Jenkins to tell him that as much as Coach Kelly was the perfect fit at the begining of the season, he can never be perfect for us any more.

Personal responsibility is a value I like to think Catholics and Notre Dame people embody to our cores. Here's hoping someone in the administration lives up to these values with actions more than money and words.

Heart broken and disspointed.

If this post alone doesn't scream "Look at me....I need attention", I don't know what does. Don't take the bait, Lads.

 

[dskoo65]

If BK threatened someone with their job (which I doubt seriously) that would be grounds for termination. Other than that he is the Head Football Coach of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish. Not an engineer or the head of the video department. There is someone directly at blame that knew the conditions and the safety spec. on the machinery being used. I hope that is not BK, he has a little more to worry about, and that is why he hires assistants to take care of other areas. Someone made a huge mistake, but I can see no way it will fall back on BK himself.

By Kelly's own admission, he has told guys to get down from the lifts because there was lighting in the area, so he has the awareness and cognition of the people filming. he is not so consumed with practice that he doesnt notice the 40 foot tall lifts right next to the practice field. he also stated that safety is first and foremost in everything they do regarding practice. if he says quit filming, thats the final word. he is the head coach.

....but how could this be?? geez, Kelly is not a meteorologist...how does he know lightning might be dangerous to someone 40 feet in the air on a metal object?? EXACTLY! COMMON SENSE!...enough with the garbage like "well, Kelly is not an engineer, how is he supposed to know it was dangerous?"


just like its common sense to everyone and their brother that during a two day wind storm, you dont want anyone up in those lifts. even if he didnt specifically send them up in the lifts, he had the reasonable responsibility to say "guys, you have to get down, its ridiculously windy. we are not filming today."

what was the mistake? conducting practice, seeing those lifts raised next to the field with their filmers in them in excessive winds, and not having the intellligence to order them to come down.

if someone wants to argue that Kelly didnt notice the lifts next to the field....go ahead.

if someone wants to argue that Kelly didnt know that such excessive winds might be dangerous to somone sitting up in a tall skinny scissor lift, go ahead......but know by doing so, you are indicting him as being awfully dense.


i understand that it sucks to admit that the guy everyone has put so much emotional energy into being the savior of the program made such a terrible error in judgement.

was he the ONLY one involved in the whole process? doubtful. but, he has the final word.

 

[enrico514]

By Kelly's own admission, he has told guys to get down from the lifts because there was lighting in the area, so he has the awareness and cognition of the people filming. he is not so consumed with practice that he doesnt notice the 40 foot tall lifts right next to the practice field. he also stated that safety is first and foremost in everything they do regarding practice. if he says quit filming, thats the final word. he is the head coach.

....but how could this be?? geez, Kelly is not a meteorologist...how does he know lightning might be dangerous to someone 40 feet in the air on a metal object?? EXACTLY! COMMON SENSE!...enough with the garbage like "well, Kelly is not an engineer, how is he supposed to know it was dangerous?"


just like its common sense to everyone and their brother that during a two day wind storm, you dont want anyone up in those lifts. even if he didnt specifically send them up in the lifts, he had the reasonable responsibility to say "guys, you have to get down, its ridiculously windy. we are not filming today."

what was the mistake? conducting practice, seeing those lifts raised next to the field with their filmers in them in excessive winds, and not having the intellligence to order them to come down.

if someone wants to argue that Kelly didnt notice the lifts next to the field....go ahead.

if someone wants to argue that Kelly didnt know that such excessive winds might be dangerous to somone sitting up in a tall skinny scissor lift, go ahead......but know by doing so, you are indicting him as being awfully dense.


i understand that it sucks to admit that the guy everyone has put so much emotional energy into being the savior of the program made such a terrible error in judgement.

was he the ONLY one involved in the whole process? doubtful. but, he has the final word.

You make your opinion sound like it is the truth. You have no clue who has what responsibility so how about you just wait to see what comes out of the investigation. As of now you do not know if he has the final word or if he is even involved in the process.

 

[BleedsGold]

Dskoo65 sounds like he has more than, "a clue" about who is ultimately responsible. Put me in the column that sees it his way. Kelly is ultimatey responsible. Intimating blame on his subordinates is to me, reprhensible and beneath us.

 

[NDFan537]

By Kelly's own admission, he has told guys to get down from the lifts because there was lighting in the area, so he has the awareness and cognition of the people filming. he is not so consumed with practice that he doesnt notice the 40 foot tall lifts right next to the practice field. he also stated that safety is first and foremost in everything they do regarding practice. if he says quit filming, thats the final word. he is the head coach.

....but how could this be?? geez, Kelly is not a meteorologist...how does he know lightning might be dangerous to someone 40 feet in the air on a metal object?? EXACTLY! COMMON SENSE!...enough with the garbage like "well, Kelly is not an engineer, how is he supposed to know it was dangerous?"


just like its common sense to everyone and their brother that during a two day wind storm, you dont want anyone up in those lifts. even if he didnt specifically send them up in the lifts, he had the reasonable responsibility to say "guys, you have to get down, its ridiculously windy. we are not filming today."

what was the mistake? conducting practice, seeing those lifts raised next to the field with their filmers in them in excessive winds, and not having the intellligence to order them to come down.

if someone wants to argue that Kelly didnt notice the lifts next to the field....go ahead.

if someone wants to argue that Kelly didnt know that such excessive winds might be dangerous to somone sitting up in a tall skinny scissor lift, go ahead......but know by doing so, you are indicting him as being awfully dense.


i understand that it sucks to admit that the guy everyone has put so much emotional energy into being the savior of the program made such a terrible error in judgement.

was he the ONLY one involved in the whole process? doubtful. but, he has the final word.

A metal scissor lift is dangerous in the first place. If it had been a calm day one could fall if it were not placed securely on the ground. Yes, I know he said he has told them to get down before. He didn't think of it this time. Again it is not his job, yes , he has the "final" word but who ever is responsible for the video department, or at least football video is who sent them up. Several other lifts were up and did not fall. Everyone told the others to get down immediately when the lift fell. That is when the severity of the problem was realized. Danger detection is not Kelly's job. If he sees lighting he calls off practice, that is his job, maybe, then as an afterthought he yells up to get down from the tower. He didn't cancel practice because of the winds, maybe he should have, but I doubt he personally sent anyone up in a scissor lift. Someone did. It is their job to know the safety specs. of the lift and also their job no matter if Kelly decides to coach in a blizzard to say, "No, can't film for the lifts, it would be a safety hazard."

 

[DillonHall]

Bottom line: no one should be making speculations until the investigation is concluded.

 

[dskoo65]

You make your opinion sound like it is the truth. You have no clue who has what responsibility so how about you just wait to see what comes out of the investigation. As of now you do not know if he has the final word or if he is even involved in the process.

all this talk about "the process."

he stated he has told filmers to come down because of lighning. you think if he says "get down, its too dangerous today"...thats not the final word? of course it is.

i guess you are arguing either A) he is not cognizant of these 40 foot lifts next to the field or B) he couldnt connect excessively high winds and tall skinny towers with danger or perhaps C) he saw the lifts in the air, knew it was dangerous, but since he is not part of "THE PROCESS", he thought he would just wait for whoever is in charge of "THE PROCESS" to tell the filmers to come down.

 

[dskoo65]

Yes, I know he said he has told them to get down before. He didn't think of it this time. Again it is not his job, yes , he has the "final" word but who ever is responsible for the video department, or at least football video is who sent them up. Several other lifts were up and did not fall. Everyone told the others to get down immediately when the lift fell. That is when the severity of the problem was realized. Danger detection is not Kelly's job. If he sees lighting he calls off practice, that is his job, maybe, then as an afterthought he yells up to get down from the tower.."

you really think that if the so called head of the video team thought they shouldnt film they wouldnt run it by Kelly first? film is the lifeblood of football preparation. when the coach makes a decision to practice outdoors, he expects film.

are you really arguing that this so called video team makes those decisions independently of Kelly? id be shocked if that were true.

i suppose it wont matter in the end. does anyone really expect ND's own investigation to ultimately hold Kelly responsible? yes, they have hired an independent person to "review" their investigation, not to do their own independent investigation. everything out of JS's mouth since this happened has been PR/lawyer speak/damage control. nobody should seriously be worried about BK losing his job or even being reprimanded. the university put too much time and effort in making the decision to bring him in.

 

[BleedsGold]

What I don't get is how an institution and coach that preach personal responsibility and accountability can evade the same standards. An entire football practice, a competitor's previous 6 games as well as our own teams efforts can be broken down and made available for analysis by situation and position in less than 48 hours. We have access to the brightest minds and best technology in the world and we can't come to analyze a single practice in 10 plus days and counting. We get grand statements about taking responsibility and we're still looking for answers. It would be honorable if all leaders would apply the same standards to themselves that they demand of the rest of us.

 

[lookingdeadred]

fair enough

fair enough

but it has to be an outside investigation and if anyone is found to be responsible, he/they need to go.

Bottom line: no one should be making speculations until the investigation is concluded.

 

[IrishinSyria]

but it has to be an outside investigation and if anyone is found to be responsible, he/they need to go.

Which is exactly what's happening so... we can all agree to wait for the investigation to be completed?

 

[BleedsGold]

No disrespect meant to anyone. To be sure I can see where bringing an outside third party in to investegate this is prudent.Having said that I am stunned and dissapointed at how this has been allowed to drag on. There will be people who disgree with whatever the outcome of this investegation finds. To this point the actions of the administration, to a signifigant number of people, has been so calculated as to create doubt in the real motives of the university. No one would have had an issue with a suspension of the season until this matter was resolved. The family would have appreciated it. It would have sent the right message about our priorities to everyone. It would have created a sense of urgency to be thorough and timely in getting to truth. All this legalize and calculated press interaction really bothers many perople. In my opinion, that concern is becoming more and more justified.Greatness and trust are built on the back of actiions and deeds more than words and intent. I keep waiting for the university to step up rather than aside.

 

[enrico514]

Once again you go and state your opinion as fact... Answer this... How do you know the family would have appreciated the season being cancelled ???

 

[rocket31]

No disrespect meant to anyone. To be sure I can see where bringing an outside third party in to investegate this is prudent.Having said that I am stunned and dissapointed at how this has been allowed to drag on. There will be people who disgree with whatever the outcome of this investegation finds. To this point the actions of the administration, to a signifigant number of people, has been so calculated as to create doubt in the real motives of the university. No one would have had an issue with a suspension of the season until this matter was resolved. The family would have appreciated it. It would have sent the right message about our priorities to everyone. It would have created a sense of urgency to be thorough and timely in getting to truth. All this legalize and calculated press interaction really bothers many perople. In my opinion, that concern is becoming more and more justified.Greatness and trust are built on the back of actiions and deeds more than words and intent. I keep waiting for the university to step up rather than aside.

just curious, are you like 70, 80 years old? female?

 

[BleedsGold]

I don't know any more than you do that they would not. It's an adult life filled with sensitive human experience that leads me to this train of thought. Personal experiences with grief have lead me to a conclusion that when there is a tragic loss of a child while in the care of an institution, the more open hearted grace that is extended the better. I put myself in their shoes.I would want the university to put the loss of my son before the football team. I'd want them to find out exactly who was rsponsible for allowing him to be in that tower in those conditions before another practice was held.

I guess you "got me." I don't know with any more certainty than you do. All I did was walk a mile in another dad's shoes.

Peace

 

[dskoo65]

just curious, are you like 70, 80 years old? female?

somebody writes something that shows alot of empathy and they must either be old or a female?

ageist/sexist much?

 

[IrishLax]

This thread is getting kind of ridiculous now. I can think of at least 20 instances off the top of my head where a player, coach or member of an organization has died and the team has NEVER cancelled a game much less the season. Some were accidents, some were murders, and in some cases the kid died on the field.

With no intended disrespect to anyone voicing their opinions here... but this is the 100% absolutely correct way to handle this. You have a 3rd party for impartiality, you have the institution accepting responsibility, you have measures taken to preserve the individuals memory and you are waiting until you have all the facts to make the appropriate decisions.

Remember, many lives are affected by someone's death. But make radical changes/cancelling seasons/firing people without appropriate due diligence unnecessarily negatively affects even more people. This is clearly the most sensible option.

Have a nice day.

 

[BleedsGold]

IrishLax- I appreciate the respect. For those who ask my age, gender etc. if you read my post you saw that I am a father.I own 2 companies and am a strength coach for high school athletes. For whatever it's worth I have a nephew at Notre Dame right now. He loves that football team the same way Declean did and ever since this has happened all I could think of was how lucky my family is that it was not him. All of us have been incensed at the political tap dance the administration has undertaken.

I greatly appreciate the opportunity to explore this with you. In a small way it has helped me vent some of my frustrations. I RESPECTFULLY disagree with many of your views. I love the school and the university too.I just wish they'd hold them selves to a higher standard. Many thanks for the chance to work some of this out. Hope it ends soon and with grace.

Peace