FIFA World Cup 2010 - Spain Wins - Paul The Octopus Retires

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I'm half Spanish too homie. WHATTTTSSSUUUUUPPPPPPP

Yeah i'm expecting Chile to play it safe but Spain is just WAAAAAAAAYYYYY too talented and already have underachieved so i am expecting a strong showing.

I think Brazil is weak this year(for Brazil at least) but who does Portugal have behind Ronaldo?
 

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Portugal has a lot of playmakers, although some of them are a little long in the tooth (i.e. Deco). Their problem has been they can't put it together at the Cup...they just don't seem to gel, and they have problems finishing (Christian Ronaldo was ICE COLD scoring for the national team. I mean, their last game was evident of that. They dominated the first half against North Korea, but were only up 1-0 at the half. Then for about 20 minutes, they played some of the best soccer you'll ever see, and just poured it on, eventually ending up with 6 goals in that 2nd half. I don't care who you play, scoring 6 goals in one half proves how talented you are. Spain would beat them however.

As for Brazil, their coach decided to bring a different type of team, and make no mstake about it, they are a STRONG side. He decided to leave some stars at home (Ronaldino) in favor of players that are more athletic and in some cases, physically stronger. So what you have in Brazil is a team that will tackle better, defend better, and play better soccer tactically. What you get less of is 'jogo bonito' - beautiful soccer - but make no mistake, these guys are still loaded with playmakers and they can still produce beautiful soccer. Guys like Kaka, Robihno, Adriano, etc, are still on the team. It's just that they are trying to have the best of both worlds. Plus they have an excellent goalkeeper.

Don't be surprised if Brazil doesn't win today vs. Portugal, just because Kaka is out, they've already qualified, and Portugal could steal the group. It could be a yawner if both teams decide that their places in the next stage are already sealed and they play conservatively. However, if Portugal comes out trying to win the group, it could be very entertaining...
 

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Thanks Rocket. Damn, that bracket sets up nicely for Spain. If we can get past Portugal (who will be defending the entire night, as that's what they do), I love the next game vs. the Paraguay-Japan winner.

It sets up nicely for the U.S. as well. I think the U.S is even with Ghana, and at least have a fighting chance vs. Uruguay (who I think will defeat South Korea). It's not like playing Argentina or Brazil, where you're fighting completely uphill all game long and hoping for a counter.

Some GREAT games...and ACamp, Johnny and jason, your Argentina-Mexico dream match-up could be epic!
 

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Mexico Argentia will not be epic. Lionel Messi is the pest player in the world PERIOD.
 

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Agree... I picked Argetina to win it all at the start... anything can happen in a winner take all format but I don't see how Mexico can play with Argentina 9 times out of 10... completely outclassed on paper.

To me the best first round Match up is Spain/Portugal... much closer on paper... and no, Portugal is not Chris. R. and a bunch of scrubs... this team is referred to as the golden generation in Portugal for a reason...

that's the game I can't wait for from a match up perspective... that or the OBVIOUS England/ Germany match... that's a very interseting one as well... as over the hill as most the English squad is, they stil have two of the best players in the world on their team and in their prime... (Rooney and Lampard) if they can strike for some goals.......... should be a good one too.
 
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Also, how many had the Dutch as a legit favorite coming in... I can honestly say I did but no one anywhere ever talked about them... anywhere. ever.
 

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NDinLA you should set up a vbuck bet/poll where we all pick the finals matchup... those who get it right win 100,000 vbucks or something.
 
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I really enjoyed watching the Japanese play yesterday. They look like they're shot out of a cannon for 90 minutes. Pretty exciting style for a pretty boring game overall.
 

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HCTI... I just went to your page and saw that disgusting picture...... shame on you sir.

Shame on you.
 
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Let's hope for the best in the US vs Ghana game. Ghana is fast. We can beat them though, no doubt. I know we're better.

Update: Great, there we go giving up the early goal.

Ghana's possession is fantastic.
 
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Little one-side affair at the point. I really wish Findlay's break-away would have yielded an equalizer.

Let's have high hopes for second half...
 

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Ghana looked kinda tired coming off the field at half. Hopefully they blew their wad already.
 

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Ghana has showed up... it's that simple...

we have the talent but when Jozy Altiore refuses to fight for ANYTHING and Bradley insists on playing Findley dispite the fact he can't finish (as shown in thefirst half) we are in trouble... I'd love to see Buddle get major PT in the second half and more crosses... we shall see...
 

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I'm flipping between the Mexican coverage, which is two seconds ahead, and ABC. I was watching the Mexican station when he scored. Those announcers are very pro U.S. You would think the U. S. was their team, but they do call the game fairly. I just love when they say GGGGOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!

This second half is the complete opposite of the first. Mexican announcers said Ghana looks like they a playing a bit scared.
 
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Well, Ghana played ball control like crazy... even before they took the lead... anyway...

Here's two truisms about soccer in this country...

we have no one up front that can finish consistently... it's literally in double digits the ammount of chances that any player of average quality would have finished that our boys failed to bury in one way or the other during this tournament... We desperately need a quality striker or for someone currently on the roster to step up (Hello Jozy... )

Ghana had two quality chances all game... buried both.

The defense has been a libility for years but this generation of stikers is supposed to be our best ever... it makes you wonder.


here's the hard one... this is exactly why soccer has not and most likely will not catch on in this country... we can't beat a third world country in this sport in a knock situation two world cups in a row... I love soccer... I'll take it over basketball and on the same level as football every time... but the Average American will never embrace a sport that we just can't compete at the highest level in... Truth is Ghana (with all due respect) should never beat any US team in any sport under any circumstance... ever... from sher population alone... and that only tells about a tenth of the story,... so again... until we consistently beat this caliber of nations and play consistently with the Brazils of the world, our nation will never embrace this sport for more than a week at a time... that's just the sad facts of our sports population.


Oh well, I said I'd be hapy if and when we got to the second round... we did...

I'm proud of the boys and hope for better things in the future...

U.S.A. !!!

And go Argentina tomorrow!!!
 
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Well, Ghana played ball control like crazy... even before they took the lead... anyway...

Here's two truisms about soccer in this country...

we have no one up front that can finish consistently... it's literally in double digits the ammount of chances that any player of average quality would have finished that our boys failed to bury in one way or the other during this tournament... We desperately need a quality striker or for someone currently on the roster to step up (Hello Jozy... )

Jozy will step up eventually. He's 20 years old and has a lot of time. He really would've benefited from Charlie Davies.

Really didn't like the starting lineup today though. Starting Ricardo Clark was really stupid and Robbie Findley's speed is really overrated. He didn't pull away from anybody all tournament. Edson Buddle was subbed into the Algeria game and he was making positive plays constantly in the 2nd half. He should've started the game.

Oh well. Proud of the team. Now I have to wait a few weeks so I can beat ACamp in NCAA 11.
 

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here's the hard one... this is exactly why soccer has not and most likely will not catch on in this country... we can't beat a third world country in this sport in a knock situation two world cups in a row... but the Average American will never embrace a sport that we just can't compete at the highest level in... Truth is Ghana (with all due respect) should never beat any US team in any sport under any circumstance... ever... from sher population alone...

You have some weird logic there ACamp.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog. 1st, 2nd, 3rd world has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it. In fact, it might be the opposite of what you are saying. In this first world country, we get on the internet and talk about the new video game. In third world countries, they wrap up an old pair of pants and use it as a ball to play soccer in the streets. Barefoot.
 

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You have some weird logic there ACamp.

It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog. 1st, 2nd, 3rd world has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with it. In fact, it might be the opposite of what you are saying. In this first world country, we get on the internet and talk about the new video game. In third world countries, they wrap up an old pair of pants and use it as a ball to play soccer in the streets. Barefoot.

and you actually think the average American will look at it that way and the sport will grow here after losing to a country like Ghana two straight World Cups???... becase THAT was my logic.


stupid fucking deer. :)
 
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and you actually think the average American will look at it that way and the sport will grow here after losing to a country like Ghana two straight World Cups???... becase THAT was my logic.


stupid fucking deer.

The sport is and has been growing. Do your homework. I'm glad you speak for all average Americans who will give up on a sport of their passion because someone else lost to a team who someone else thought they should beat.

The U.S. simply has more options. And you have a really backward logic on this approach.

Go Mexico and Spain!

Go Sonic double cheeseburgers!
 

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The sport is and has been growing. Do your homework. I'm glad you speak for all average Americans who will give up on a sport of their passion because someone else lost to a team who someone else thought they should beat.

The U.S. simply has more options. And you have a really backward logic on this approach.

Go Mexico and Spain!

Go Sonic double cheeseburgers!

Dude, I love soccer and am not giving up on anything... quit reaching and trying to start stuff that isn't there... I'm morning tha fact that this sets our national following back a ways... we did not just lose to Brazil... but you actually think losing to Ghana does the following good??? Sorry the American Public supports the winners... BECAUSE we have more options... we'll just find the winner and support that. I'm not speaking for America... I'm pointing out the obvious... I suggest you do YOUR homework.

and yeah... I expect our teams with superior money, facilities, population pools and training to take down countries that don't... in any sport... yet we play video games and that causes us to get beat rightfully... and I have backwards logic...??

go choke on a frozen Wendy's burger, dear meat...

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Dude, I love soccer and am not giving up on anything... qut reaching and tryiing to start stuff that isn't there... I'm morning tha fact that this sets our national following back a ways... we did not just lose th Brazil... but you actually think losing to Ghana does the following good???

and yeah... I expect our teams with superior money, facilities, population pools and training to take down countries that don't... in any sport... yet we play video games and that causes us to get beat rightfully... Yet I have backwards logic...??

go choke on a frozen Wendy's burger, dear meat...

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I'll go ahead and take the holistic approach to understanding what the heck you are trying to say. lol.

How does it set the national following back a ways? I am an average deer and watched the game. We simply lost a big game today, and losing only inspired the announcers to talk about where the team lacked and needs to improve. ESPN spoke about the lack of scoring from the strikers, just like you did. They found areas to improve. Losing will do that. You find what you think are your weaknesses, then you try to find ways to correct the problem.

It ain't the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog. Today, Ghana was the bigger dog. That's all.
 

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I agree with that last post... my point was this contry will never get behind soccer on the level of other sports until we put Ghana and nations of their size where they should be all things considered... behind 3-0 score lines...

that's my feelings on this... actually no, that's my knowledge on this...

agree or agree to disagree that's your deal... stupid deer..


;)
 

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ACamp, remember this post from Steve?

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Yep... perfect example of how Americans can get behind soccer just like the rest of the world when circumstances come together...
 
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this game was a sock in the gut, very disappointing....I am bummed out the US got bounced when they should have won this game and most likely the next. most ppl I talked to had them making to the semi's and losing to Brasil. It was not to be, oh well...there is always next year

Oh wait a minute, make that 4 years from now.
 
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