Nebraska Joins Big 10 Thread

[alaskandomer]

But why can't Notre Dame join a conference and improve themselves back to the elite status?

No one (ESPN haters) will ever take Notre Dame serious unless they are a member of a "super conference".

Even this years schedule is non-legit according to ESPN "experts", because Notre Dame doesn't face consistent big name teams like they would if they were in a conference like the SEC...

Alaskandomer,

I can tell you want Notre Dame to be elite again, and your right they need to win games first. But winning games against Tulsa, Navy, Air Force, Utah and Army will not EVER give Notre Dame the "Elite" status you want.

Notre Dame needs to beat up teams like OSU, Mich, Mich St, Penn State, Iowa, Nebraska, and Texas (If they join the Big-10 like some are speculating).

Notre Dame must join a conference.

Sorry. I fail to see how beating Indiana, Northwestern and Illinois earns us any more respect than beating Tulsa, utah, and WMU. We're playing UM, and MSU already, and will be for the forseeable future. SC is a given, though the may be down for a few years, and future games with OU and Miami are in the works. Balancing membership in a conference controlled by UM and OSU, with remaining independent, I'd choose independence.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Uh what? Were we not in the BCS a few years back? ND = national viewership. National viewership = better sponsors. Better sponsors = more money. The almighty dollar sign gentlemen. Atlas Shrugged is my bible.

Ayn Rand baby! Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum

You are the Fountainhead.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

And scheduling powerhouses every weekend will only get your athletes damaged. Seems like you are the one stuck on history by claiming the old names are the powers. Boise St. beat OK. Appalachian beat Michigan. Utah went undefeated. Miami fell by the wayside. Things have changed.

(Just for a chuckle...): O, be some other name! What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet

ND just needs to win. Whoever it is.

Winning is a must, obviously.

And I know we are all die hard ND fans on this site, so I'm sure you guys have all heard the "ESPN experts" criticize ND for not being in a conference right now.

Can you guys even imagine if there was a Big-16 and a Pac-16 without Notre Dame in a "super conference"?

The "ESPN experts" would critic Notre Dame no matter how wins they got without beating the big names...

NeuteredDoomer,

I believe Boise St. is a legit powerhouse, but look at all the "ESPN experts" that still question their integrity just because they have a "weak" schedule.

Notre Dame would be the same way if they beat up on weak schools. Haters would say "So what if they can get 10 wins against schools like Navy, Army, Air Force, Tulsa, Utah, and so on"...... Haters would go on to say, "Lets see how successful Notre Dame would be going up against the likes of powerhouses like OSU, PSU, MICH, MICH ST, Nebraska, and Iowa".

I can imagine the critics now, because the same critics have been insulting ND the past few years for not being in REGULAR conference...

Can you imagine what "ESPN experts" would say if Notre Dame wasn't even in a "super conference?

The haters would be louder than ever....

I'm going to predict your guys' counter argument of "Well Notre Dame just needs to win football games and that makes me happy because a W is a W".

Well winning games makes me happy, but my ultimate goal for Notre Dame is to silence all the haters. Give the haters no excuses for insulting Notre Dame. Force the haters to acknowledge Notre Dame's greatness.

I want people like Mark May to say, "Wow, Notre Dame is the best there is".

 

[TerryTate]

Winning is a must, obviously.

And I know we are all die hard ND fans on this site, so I'm sure you guys have all heard the "ESPN experts" criticize ND for not being in a conference right now.

Can you guys even imagine if there was a Big-16 and a Pac-16 without Notre Dame in a "super conference"?

The "ESPN experts" would critic Notre Dame no matter how wins they got without beating the big names...

NeuteredDoomer,

I believe Boise St. is a legit powerhouse, but look at all the "ESPN experts" that still question their integrity just because they have a "weak" schedule.

Notre Dame would be the same way if they beat up on weak schools. Haters would say "So what if they can get 10 wins against schools like Navy, Army, Air Force, Tulsa, Utah, and so on"...... Haters would go on to say, "Lets see how successful Notre Dame would be going up against the likes of powerhouses like OSU, PSU, MICH, MICH ST, Nebraska, and Iowa".

I can imagine the critics now, because the same critics have been insulting ND the past few years for not being in REGULAR conference...

Can you imagine what "ESPN experts" would say if Notre Dame wasn't even in a "super conference?

The haters would be louder than ever....

I'm going to predict your guys' counter argument of "Well Notre Dame just needs to win football games and that makes me happy because a W is a W".

Well winning games makes me happy, but my ultimate goal for Notre Dame is to silence all the haters. Give the haters no excuses for insulting Notre Dame. Force the haters to acknowledge Notre Dame's greatness.

I want people like Mark May to say, "Wow, Notre Dame is the best there is".

Why do we care what the "ESPN experts" think? You put them in quotes yourself. They are PAID to create discussions and attract viewership. They are PAID to debate these things. Hating on ND always creates a discussion. The only thing that matters in the end is the BCS ranking. The computer algorithm doesn't give a crap what Mark May thinks, neither do I.

Hova.

 

[TerryTate]

Ayn Rand baby! Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum

You are the Fountainhead.

Mad respect for you.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Why do we care what the "ESPN experts" think? You put them in quotes yourself. They are PAID to create discussions and attract viewership. They are PAID to debate these things. Hating on ND always creates a discussion. The only thing that matters in the end is the BCS ranking. The computer algorithm doesn't give a crap what Mark May thinks, neither do I.

Hova.

Your right, I think "ESPN experts" are ignorant fools whose opinions shouldn't matter.

But their opinions do matter, because millions of people watch/read some sort of media piece from ESPN....

I want Notre Dame to be acknowledged by the whole country as the best college football team. I want the glory to shine brighter than ever. I want to surpass the Rockne Era...

My opinions/expectations are ridiculous and crazy (I understand you guys already think this)....

But why settle for great?
I want Notre Dame to be the greatest.

 

[military_irish]

Your right, I think "ESPN experts" are ignorant fools whose opinions shouldn't matter.

But their opinions do matter, because millions of people watch/read some sort of media piece from ESPN....

I want Notre Dame to be acknowledged by the whole country as the best college football team. I want the glory to shine brighter than ever. I want to surpass the Rockne Era...

My opinions/expectations are ridiculous and crazy (I understand you guys already think this)....

But why settle for great?
I want Notre Dame to be the greatest.

greatness doesn't come from impressing some reporters that think they are experts, but greatness comes from your opponents who at the end of the day say "yes Notre Dame is the best team in the nation"

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

You are talking about football skills greatness.

I'm talking about football skills AND popularity greatness.

 

[military_irish]

i understand what you mean and respect it, but every school in america has haters, us as ND fans hate UM and USC and wish anything upon them, but there fans feel they are the best no matter there record.

so there are haters for every school and people will always talk about this or that, that will never be fixed. ND could win 10 straight titles but never get respect from every single person, its just the way of the game

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

i understand what you mean and respect it, but every school in america has haters, us as ND fans hate UM and USC and wish anything upon them, but there fans feel they are the best no matter there record.

so there are haters for every school and people will always talk about this or that, that will never be fixed. ND could win 10 straight titles but never get respect from every single person, its just the way of the game

Yeah I know there will always be haters, but...

An educated "ESPN expert" will never hate on a team that wins a title 10 years in a row.

All in all I just want to see ND regain its respect from the media.

 

[Lou Holtz]

And scheduling powerhouses every weekend will only get your athletes damaged. Seems like you are the one stuck on history by claiming the old names are the powers. Boise St. beat OK. Appalachian beat Michigan. Utah went undefeated. Miami fell by the wayside. Things have changed.

(Just for a chuckle...): O, be some other name! What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet

ND just needs to win. Whoever it is.

SEC schools do it why cant ND

 

[Ben E.]

one of the things that concern me as i start to accept the reality that we will be fucked i mean forced into joining the big ten is our ability to recruit defensive players. in the big ten we will be facing the likes of osu, nebraska, and psu that can recruit future felons and low grade average players on the defense that we cannot. i just dont know how we could compete week in and week out vs that type of opponenet. if we join big ten either academic standards have to come down or we become stanford of the midwest imo. does last years stanford team inspire anyone?

 

[johnnykillz]

Stanford's recruiting standards remain high, and yes they impressed me. Andrew Luck is among three of the preseason favorite QB's (Luck, Locker, and Mallet) to compete for a Heisman this year and Toby Gerhart brought back an almost reminiscent image of the backfield for me. I could imagine the kid in a leather helmet.

But no, I am not ready to accept or embrace norms; that is I am not ready to accept conference affiliation. We are Notre Dame.

 

[Ben E.]

Stanford's recruiting standards remain high, and yes they impressed me. Andrew Luck is among three of the preseason favorite QB's (Luck, Locker, and Mallet) to compete for a Heisman this year and Toby Gerhart brought back an almost reminiscent image of the backfield for me. I could imagine the kid in a leather helmet.

But no, I am not ready to accept or embrace norms; that is I am not ready to accept conference affiliation. We are Notre Dame.

my concern is with the defense killz! stanford like ND doesnt struggle to recruit players on O its the players on D that they struggle with! i like gerhart too but he is one in a million and it will be interesting how luck does without that security blanket!

 

[johnnykillz]

I understand. I wasn't in tune with your mindset. Defense definitely has to get better with both programs.

 

[Ben E.]

I understand. I wasn't in tune with your mindset. Defense definitely has to get better with both programs.

yes i know, from time to time my posts read like my actual thought instead of a intelligent put together paragraph! lol!

 

[Riddickulous]

They've just joined the conference. It's official.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

SEC schools do it why cant ND

Yeah OK. Among some of the games on LSU's schedule this year are Vanderbilt, Mississippi St., McNeese St., UL-Monroe.

Alabama opens with the mighty San Jose St., then two weeks later will challenge Duke. Georgia St. is a little later in the season.

Auburn? How about Arkansas State, Mississippi State, Louisiana-Monroe, Kentucky, Tennessee-Chattanooga

 

[phork]

So now that the BigEast has told ND to go all in or all out, what now? My preference is Big10 over the BigLeast...

 

[TerryTate]

Wait what? The Big East gave ND an ultimatum?

 

[nd1]

So now that the BigEast has told ND to go all in or all out, what now? My preference is Big10 over the BigLeast...

where did u see this

 

[Riddickulous]

Yeah OK. Among some of the games on LSU's schedule this year are Vanderbilt, Mississippi St., McNeese St., UL-Monroe.

Alabama opens with the mighty San Jose St., then two weeks later will challenge Duke. Georgia St. is a little later in the season.

Auburn? How about Arkansas State, Mississippi State, Louisiana-Monroe, Kentucky, Tennessee-Chattanooga

Which, by the way, is Georgia State's first season ever. It's going to be unwatchable. A team of freshmen against the best team in college football at the moment? Unwatchable.

 

[IrishInFl]

So now that the BigEast has told ND to go all in or all out, what now? My preference is Big10 over the BigLeast...

Link please.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

oops. double post. don't know how that happened. Refer to next post...

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten - CBSSports.com


Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten
Posted on: June 11, 2010 3:53 pm
Edited on: June 11, 2010 6:47 pm

LINCOLN, Neb. -- It was the worst beating Texas has taken in public in at least seven years.

That 65-13 loss to Oklahoma in 2003 was only a football game. Nebraska officials spent the better part of 40 minutes Friday putting Bevo in his place.

Nebraska didn't just leave the Big 12 for the Big Ten on Friday, it told the world why: That bully Texas. In the space of eight days, Nebraska transformed from happy member of the Big 12 to angry, rancorous new member of the Big Ten.

Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman and AD Tom Osborne both took turns hammering Texas during a comment period before the board of regents. When they got done, there was only one possible result. The regents' vote was unanimous. Nebraska is headed to the Big Ten. Unspoken: Because Texas forced it out.

The moment the news broke last week about the Pac-10's desire to take Texas and five Big 12 partners, Nebraska turned sour. Perlman, at one point, stared across a table during the Big 12 meetings at his Texas counterpart Bill Powers and asked him if he was willing to give up his media rights. In other words, start a Big 12 Network. Powers said no. At that point, Perlman knew it was over.

This league had a chance to survive seven years ago but a possible network was voted down, obviously not supported by Texas. Now, it's clear the Pac-10 is going to get Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State and Oklahoma.

Super conferences, start your engines.

The money quote from Osborne: "One school leaving a conference does not break up a conference. Two schools leaving a conference does not break up a conference. Six schools leaving a conference, breaks up a conference. We have not had a hidden agenda, we have not dealt with more than one conference."

T.O. intimated that Texas has been talking to the SEC, Big Ten and Pac-10.

It was a bad day for Texas' reputation. It was a good day for Nebraska's future.

 

[JKhrome1ND]

man i wish i was in charge of the conferences of college football......i would stay with 12 schools a conference !! but if i had to do more then 12, i would go with 14 not 16 !! 16 schools in one conference just seems way to high. Ok i might being going off alittle bit more than just talking about Notre Dame here........but shit i have alot on my mind right now hahaha

Im going to go with 12 schools a conference ...... FBS (Division I-A Teams)

Pacific 10
1: USC, 2: UCLA, 3: Oregon, 4: Oregon St., 5: Washington, 6: Washington St., 7: California, 8: Stanford, 9: Arizona, 10: Arizona St., ........ and ADD 11: Utah & 12: BYU from the MWC, (now it's fine).

Big Ten - might as well stay Big Ten since we already got a Big 12
1: Ohio St., 2: Penn St., 3: Michigan, 4: Michigan St., 5: Wisconson, 6: Iowa, 7: Illinios, 8: Minnesota, 9: Purdue, 10: Northwestern, 11: Indiana, ........ and ADD 12: Notre Dame from Ind., (now it's fine).

SEC - Southeastern Conference
1: Florida, 2: Tennessee, 3: Gerogia, 4: LSU, 5: Alabama, 6: Arkansas, 7: Auburn, 8: Kentucky, 9: South Carolina, 10: Mississippi, 11: Mississippi St., 12: Vanderbilt (it's fine already).

Big 12
1: Oklahoma, 2: Texas, 3: Baylor, 4: Iowa St., 5: Kansas, 6: Texas A&M, 7: Texas Tech, 8: Kansas St., 9: Colorado, 10: Oklahoma St., 11: Missouri, 12: Nebraskas (it's fine already).

ACC - Atlantic Coast Conference
1: Florida St., 2: Miami (fla), 3: Virginia Tech, 4: Virginia, 5: North Carolina, 6: North Carolina St., 7: Duke, 8: Clemson, 9: Wake Forest, 10: Georgia Tech, ....... well i would Trade Boston College & Maryland to the Big East for 11: South Florida & 12: Louisville. (then it would be fine to me).

Big East
1: West Virginia, 2: Pittsbrugh, 3: Syracuse, 4: Cincinnati, 5: Connecticut, 6: Rutgers, ...... well i would Trade Louisville & South Florida to the ACC for 7: Boston College & 8: Maryland, so i still need 4 more schools, i would ADD 9: Navy-(maryland), 10: Army-(new york) from the Independents and 11: Buffalo from MAC and 12: Marshall from ConUSA. (now its fine to me). if it was a 14 school conference i would add Villanova here.

MAC - Mid-American Conference
1: Akron, 2: Ball St. 3: Western Michigan, 4: Northern Illinois, 5: Eastern Michigan, 6: Temple, 7: Ohio, 8: Central Michigan, 9: Bowling Green, 10: Miami (ohio), 11: Toledo, 12: Kent St., (it's already fine, they just had to drop Buffalo to the Big East).

WAC - Western Atheltics Conference
1: Boise St., 2: Fresno St., 3: San Jose St., 4: Nevada, 5: Hawaii, 6: Utah St., 7: New Mexico St., 8: Idaho, ..... i would drop Louisiana Tech to ConUSA, so i still need 4 more schools, i would ADD 9: San Diego St. from MWC, and ADD three D I-AA schools in 10: Sacramento St., 11: Northern Arizona, 12: Eastern Washington from the Big Sky. (now it's fine to me).

Conference USA
1: Houston, 2: Central Florida, 3: Rice, 4: Southern Miss, 5: UAB, 6: Tulane, 7: Memphis, 8: East Carolina, they lose Marshall to the Big East, and UTEP, Tulsa, SMU to MWC, so they still need 4 more schools, i would ADD 9: Louisiana Tech from WAC, and 10: Middle Tennessee, 11: Florida Atlantic 12: Troy from Sun Belt. (now its fine to me).

MWC - Mountain West Conference
1: TCU, 2: UNLV, 3: Wyoming, 4: Colorado St., 5: New Mexico, 6: Air Force, .....they lose Utah & BYU to the Pac 10 and San Diego St. to WAC, ...... so that leaves them needing 6 more teams, well i would ADD 7: UTEP, 8: Tulsa, 9: SMU from ConUSA, and 10: North Texas from Sun Belt, and ADD two D I-AA schools 11: Montana & 12: Northern Colorado. (now its fine to me).

Sun Belt
1: Arkansas St., 2: Louisiana-Lafayette, 3: Florida International, 4: Louisiana-Monroe, 5: Western Kentucky ..... bring up 7 more schools from D I-AA to fill out the conference or just get rid of it. if i got to pick the schools though i would go with 6: Grambling St., 7: McNeese St., 8: Appalachian St., 9: Georgia Southern, 10: Sam Houston St., 11: Prairie View A&M, 12: Stephen F. Austin, (now its fine to me).

and as for the ......... Independents well i would just get rid of it all together, unless bring up more D I-AA schools could work i would do that.

 

[alaskandomer]

man i wish i was in charge of the conferences of college football......i would stay with 12 schools a conference !! but if i had to do more then 12, i would go with 14 not 16 !! 16 schools in one conference just seems way to high. Ok i might being going off alittle bit more than just talking about Notre Dame here........but shit i have alot on my mind right now hahaha

Im going to go with 12 schools a conference ...... FBS (Division I-A Teams)

Pacific 10
1: USC, 2: UCLA, 3: Oregon, 4: Oregon St., 5: Washington, 6: Washington St., 7: California, 8: Stanford, 9: Arizona, 10: Arizona St., ........ and ADD 11: Utah & 12: BYU from the MWC, (now it's fine).

Big Ten - might as well stay Big Ten since we already got a Big 12
1: Ohio St., 2: Penn St., 3: Michigan, 4: Michigan St., 5: Wisconson, 6: Iowa, 7: Illinios, 8: Minnesota, 9: Purdue, 10: Northwestern, 11: Indiana, ........ and ADD 12: Notre Dame from Ind., (now it's fine).

SEC - Southeastern Conference
1: Florida, 2: Tennessee, 3: Gerogia, 4: LSU, 5: Alabama, 6: Arkansas, 7: Auburn, 8: Kentucky, 9: South Carolina, 10: Mississippi, 11: Mississippi St., 12: Vanderbilt (it's fine already).

Big 12
1: Oklahoma, 2: Texas, 3: Baylor, 4: Iowa St., 5: Kansas, 6: Texas A&M, 7: Texas Tech, 8: Kansas St., 9: Colorado, 10: Oklahoma St., 11: Missouri, 12: Nebraskas (it's fine already).

ACC - Atlantic Coast Conference
1: Florida St., 2: Miami (fla), 3: Virginia Tech, 4: Virginia, 5: North Carolina, 6: North Carolina St., 7: Duke, 8: Clemson, 9: Wake Forest, 10: Georgia Tech, ....... well i would Trade Boston College & Maryland to the Big East for 11: South Florida & 12: Louisville. (then it would be fine to me).

Big East
1: West Virginia, 2: Pittsbrugh, 3: Syracuse, 4: Cincinnati, 5: Connecticut, 6: Rutgers, ...... well i would Trade Louisville & South Florida to the ACC for 7: Boston College & 8: Maryland, so i still need 4 more schools, i would ADD 9: Navy-(maryland), 10: Army-(new york) from the Independents and 11: Buffalo from MAC and 12: Marshall from ConUSA. (now its fine to me). if it was a 14 school conference i would add Villanova here.

MAC - Mid-American Conference
1: Akron, 2: Ball St. 3: Western Michigan, 4: Northern Illinois, 5: Eastern Michigan, 6: Temple, 7: Ohio, 8: Central Michigan, 9: Bowling Green, 10: Miami (ohio), 11: Toledo, 12: Kent St., (it's already fine, they just had to drop Buffalo to the Big East).

WAC - Western Atheltics Conference
1: Boise St., 2: Fresno St., 3: San Jose St., 4: Nevada, 5: Hawaii, 6: Utah St., 7: New Mexico St., 8: Idaho, ..... i would drop Louisiana Tech to ConUSA, so i still need 4 more schools, i would ADD 9: San Diego St. from MWC, and ADD three D I-AA schools in 10: Sacramento St., 11: Northern Arizona, 12: Eastern Washington from the Big Sky. (now it's fine to me).

Conference USA
1: Houston, 2: Central Florida, 3: Rice, 4: Southern Miss, 5: UAB, 6: Tulane, 7: Memphis, 8: East Carolina, they lose Marshall to the Big East, and UTEP, Tulsa, SMU to MWC, so they still need 4 more schools, i would ADD 9: Louisiana Tech from WAC, and 10: Middle Tennessee, 11: Florida Atlantic 12: Troy from Sun Belt. (now its fine to me).

MWC - Mountain West Conference
1: TCU, 2: UNLV, 3: Wyoming, 4: Colorado St., 5: New Mexico, 6: Air Force, .....they lose Utah & BYU to the Pac 10 and San Diego St. to WAC, ...... so that leaves them needing 6 more teams, well i would ADD 7: UTEP, 8: Tulsa, 9: SMU from ConUSA, and 10: North Texas from Sun Belt, and ADD two D I-AA schools 11: Montana & 12: Northern Colorado. (now its fine to me).

Sun Belt
1: Arkansas St., 2: Louisiana-Lafayette, 3: Florida International, 4: Louisiana-Monroe, 5: Western Kentucky ..... bring up 7 more schools from D I-AA to fill out the conference or just get rid of it. if i got to pick the schools though i would go with 6: Grambling St., 7: McNeese St., 8: Appalachian St., 9: Georgia Southern, 10: Sam Houston St., 11: Prairie View A&M, 12: Stephen F. Austin, (now its fine to me).

and as for the ......... Independents well i would just get rid of it all together, unless bring up more D I-AA schools could work i would do that.

Hate to point this out, but that train has left the station.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Notre Dame might as well join the Big-10 now...

Because they'll most likely be forced to eventually anyways.

 

[FrankMA]

Notre Dame might as well join the Big-10 now...

Because they'll most likely be forced to eventually anyways.

It sems like all talk of conference realignment talk and rumors has stopped except for the PAC 10 and the Texas/Oklahoma stuff and the Kansas to the Mountain West Conference. It may be the Big 10 will stop at 12, at least for now, and the Big East will remain intact. This will end any talk of ND joining any conference. That will be great.

 

[johnnykillz]

Notre Dame might as well join the Big-10 now...

Because they'll most likely be forced to eventually anyways.

Broken record... No longer a factor. Not this year, not next year, not in ten years...