USC Gets 2 Yr Bowl Ban; Loses 30 Schollies

[GoldenBoy3]

USC will be banned from any post season bowl games for two years.

Source: Two-year postseason ban for USC football - ESPN Los Angeles

 

[phork]

And lose up to 20 scholarships.

HA HA

 

[Ben E.]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA! AWSOME!

 

[irishnd31]

This is what I was hoping for. Missing out on post season play will in turn cause alot of kids to jump ship (if on current roster), de-commit (if already verballed), and choose elsewhere when making their college choice. Alot of these kids go to USC for the fist pumping ,Snoop Dog infested team meetings, barking in your face by assistants, chance to bang Lohan, and to play in a major bowl. 18 year old kids love swag and a chance to play after New Years. When this is taken away, hopefully these kids are smart enough to realize that they will have to wait 2 years before this is even a possibility.

 

[jaydub]

Now, the question for me is will Henderson stay?

 

[Rocket89]

This was good news...sort of.

If the punishment is indeed a two-year post season ban, vacated wins and up to 20 lost scholarships, then the NCAA did it's job about as well as it could.

USC definitely deserved this...if not worse.

But, we can't be cheering for the USC program to fall apart. Not if the Irish want to stay independent. We can't afford to lose an elite team from the schedule, it would cripple our SoS.

Still, this is about as good of a penalty we could have hoped for. I expect USC to be really good this year. As in possibly undefeated good.

I want to beat great USC teams and if we do it will be awesome. And if USC is great for the next couple years but can't play in a title game or major bowl...then that is great too.

 

[FrankMA]

Now, the question for me is will Henderson stay?

You wonder, since he was told that the sanctions would be nothing by the USC coaches. New that is something new-a coach who isn't truthful with recruits.

 

[Ben E.]

chance to bang Lohan

hahhahahahhahhahahahahhaha!!! great point!!!

 

[irishnd31]

This was good news...sort of.

If the punishment is indeed a two-year post season ban, vacated wins and up to 20 lost scholarships, then the NCAA did it's job about as well as it could.

USC definitely deserved this...if not worse.

But, we can't be cheering for the USC program to fall apart. Not if the Irish want to stay independent. We can't afford to lose an elite team from the schedule, it would cripple our SoS.

Still, this is about as good of a penalty we could have hoped for. I expect USC to be really good this year. As in possibly undefeated good.

I want to beat great USC teams and if we do it will be awesome. And if USC is great for the next couple years but can't play in a title game or major bowl...then that is great too.

I agree, but I also enjoy seeing these "powerhouses" fall especially because they became powerhouses by bending the rules and not abiding by regulations that most (not all, I am sure) college programs adhere to. Fact is...they cheated, they got caught, and this sends a message to other programs who feel they are UNTOUCHABLE.

 

[irishnd31]

hahhahahahhahhahahahahhaha!!! great point!!!

That is the only one that they would not have to wait 2 years to achieve. Something tells me that she would hop in the sack for a Super-size extra value meal and a bag of booger sugar.

 

[NDinL.A.]

This was good news...sort of.

If the punishment is indeed a two-year post season ban, vacated wins and up to 20 lost scholarships, then the NCAA did it's job about as well as it could.

USC definitely deserved this...if not worse.

But, we can't be cheering for the USC program to fall apart. Not if the Irish want to stay independent. We can't afford to lose an elite team from the schedule, it would cripple our SoS.

Still, this is about as good of a penalty we could have hoped for. I expect USC to be really good this year. As in possibly undefeated good.

I want to beat great USC teams and if we do it will be awesome. And if USC is great for the next couple years but can't play in a title game or major bowl...then that is great too.

I see your point, but **** USC!!!!!!!

If they didn't want to get popped...then stop cheating! Really simple.

As for them being undefeated good this year...you forget that Lane Kiffin is their coach. Yes, he and his staff can recruit like no other, but at the end of the day, he's still Lame Kiffin. Daddy can only cover so many of your warts.

The one thing SC had going for it was that their schedule set up very nicely for them. Their OOC games are Hawaii, Virginia, Minnesota, and us. That's 3 super-lightweights and a program in transition (we have no idea, really, how good we'll be this year). Oregon lost their stud QB and Stanford lost their Heisman candidate. So the schedule was there for them to make a run.

Too bad they hired the wrong coach, and that they're CONVICTED CHEATERS hahahaha....

 

[NDinL.A.]

Ha ha, 5 star incoming recruit George Uko apparently posted on Dietrich Riley's Facebook that he (Uko) shouldn't have signed with SC and that he wants to transfer but he doesn't want to sit out a year.

And on that note, there are rumblings out there that NCAA could let players transfer without losing a year b/c of the bowl ban. No idea if that's true though...

 

[Ben E.]

Ha ha, 5 star incoming recruit George Uko apparently posted on Dietrich Riley's Facebook that he (Uko) shouldn't have signed with SC and that he wants to transfer but he doesn't want to sit out a year.

And on that note, there are rumblings out there that NCAA could let players transfer without losing a year b/c of the bowl ban. No idea if that's true though...

screw that! i hope none of them get let off the hook!

 

[FrankMA]

And on that note, there are rumblings out there that NCAA could let players transfer without losing a year b/c of the bowl ban. No idea if that's true though...

That is something the NCAA should allow since the biggest gripe most people have with these sanctions is that the present players were not there when the infractions were committed. This would stop that talk and also would be an additiona penalty for the schhool.

 

[irish4ever]

But, we can't be cheering for the USC program to fall apart. Not if the Irish want to stay independent. We can't afford to lose an elite team from the schedule, it would cripple our SoS.

Bullshit! One team doesn't make a schedule. I hope they suffer BIG TIME from these penalties. Also, I hope that the NCAA hammers scUM just as well!!! Muck Fichigan and U$C!!!!

 

[enrico514]

That is something the NCAA should allow since the biggest gripe most people have with these sanctions is that the present players were not there when the infractions were committed. This would stop that talk and also would be an additiona penalty for the schhool.

If they do allow players to transfer... Which ones would you want (and accept) at ND ???

 

[NDinL.A.]

If they do allow players to transfer... Which ones would you want (and accept) at ND ???

I think it's only going to be the upperclassmen, b/c they will not ever be allowed to play in a bowl game with the 2 year ban. Not sure it applies to the younger players.

One player I do not want, is Sentrell and his rapping dad. I don't care how good he is, he's a punk. Anybody that makes a head coach who travels half way across the country to visit you at your home wait for over an hour while you braid your friggin hair (like he did with Randy Shannon) is someone I don't want anywhere near ND (and I honestly think he never even seriously considered ND).

Marc Tyler is one we're all familiar with, but he posted on his fb that the Trojans were going to fight on and blah blah blah.

After all these guys get indoctrinated in the Trogan way, I seriously doubt any of them are 'ND men'. There might be a couple, of course, but when you're around a program that takes schoolwork so un-seriously, well, it would be hard to come into a school where education matters - a lot.

 

[Rocket89]

USC's schedule is set extremely favorable, you are right ND in LA. That's the main reason I think they will be really good. They are a lock to start 4-0 or 5-0 and I really don't see anyone in the Pac-10 that can play with them.

I know Kiffin is their coach, but as much as I want him to be a bad coach or think he is....they are going to win at least 10 games in 2010. They play 13, so it could be 11 wins or more too.

irish4ever, we can't afford to have UM and USC suck. If they do, and we go undefeated, we're no better than Boise State and we'll never play for a title.

As much as we want to see USC and UM bite the dust, it's really not in our interests, especially at this time and place with super-conferences about to be formed.

If we want to stay independent, we'll need these schools to be good. It will be hard enough negotiating more Oklahoma and Miami-type series down the road...we can't afford to see our two biggest rivals in the dumps.

Tough pill to swallow, but so it goes.

 

[IrishInFl]

irish4ever, we can't afford to have UM and USC suck. If they do, and we go undefeated, we're no better than Boise State and we'll never play for a title.

How so? Do you know how popular a ND National Championship game would be?

 

[Irishcop]

USC fan's are already saying that the ruling will be appealed and over turned. I think the denial stage has begun.

 

[TerryTate]

I know, I know... Bleacher Report

How Will USC's Bowl Ban, Other Sanctions Affect the Trojans' Recruiting? | Bleacher Report

Hoping for a mass exodus

 

[johnnykillz]

It will affect them, but we need a great season to start capitalizing on these lost recruits or they'll be headed to Texas, Florida, and Bama along with any new rising traditional powerhouses...

 

[TerryTate]

I don't even care if they come to ND. I just want Kiffin to fail. Repeatedly.

 

[TinyT]

How does a loss of 20 scholarships work? Since scholarships are renewed annually, do they lose 5 scholarships for four years? Or is it 20 scholarships gone this year, or 10 for the next two years, or some derivation of the like?

 

[TerryTate]

Sorry, I don't know the answer to that, but does this also mean that upperclassmen can transfer without sitting out a year?

UCLA is probably salivating.

 

[Rocket89]

How so? Do you know how popular a ND National Championship game would be?

It would be popular, I agree, but I don't see how we'd get in when wouldn't have beaten a top 15 team, 10-win team, etc.

Maybe a few year's ago we could have pulled it off, but not with the super-conferences looming.

Plus, don't we want to earn it and not get in because we won a popularity contest?

Ohio State, Texas, Alabama...all these teams will be playing 4 or sometimes 5 elite teams a season. When our best win is against a 9-3 Boston College team, we'll always be on the outside looking in.

With a strong USC, Michigan and two other games (OU & The U) we will be in much better position.

 

[IrishInFl]

Plus, don't we want to earn it and not get in because we won a popularity contest?

I don't give a shit how we get to a NC, as long as we do. It's been over twenty years since our last undisputed one, and we just need to get to get their anyway possible.

 

[Rocket89]

Well, getting to Nat'l championship games isn't the goal. Winning them is.

And if we're not playing tough teams that means we most likely don't deserve it and also that we'll be completely destroyed by a better team.

Then, we'd have the whole college football world with plenty of evidence as to why we:

A.) suck
B.) are entitled
C.) can't win big games

It would be a huge step back and recruits will take notice.

I hate Kiffin as much as anyone, but I'm not dreaming about him failing and beating demoralized USC teams. I'm dreaming about playing them to end the year and they are 11-0 and we destroy them.

They deserved what they got today, but we shouldn't have to rely on the NCAA to do our job for us!

 

[IrishInFl]

It would be a huge step back and recruits will take notice.

I hate Kiffin as much as anyone, but I'm not dreaming about him failing and beating demoralized USC teams.

Ask BSU if winning games is bad for recruiting.

Why wouldn't you like it? It was entertaining to me in the 90's when we were winning games and SC was terrible.

 

[ACamp1900]

seeing how the only reason SC didn't "suck" was because of shit that got them hit this hard....... (and no, Reggie Bush alone does not get THIS type of a ruling dropped on you... the NCAA found what we all knew was there...) I have no problem with them "sucking" now... an illegal player comitting and illigal play tat wasn't called cost us a BCS title game berth in 05... I could care less how it looks on our schdule... they dont deserve to be legit right now....