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"There is a big difference between a guy with 25 percent body fat who weighs 300 and a guy with 18 percent body fat who weighs 300," Longo said.
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I estimate that difference at ~7%.
 

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If they aren't going to provide a table for the athletes then lets get a table for the entire student body. This eliminates the issues of athletes treated different.

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SPOT ON - we could have the fittest/healthiest/good looking smart people in the world!!!:allhail:
 

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1/16 Mike Hutton Post Tribune

* Training table:Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick told the South Bend Tribune that a football training table, with a choice of nutritious foods, is coming "sooner rather than later" for the Irish...
Good. But is he indicating the dining hall is not serving nutritious foods? :)
 

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How does ND do it now? After practice do they say their "bubbyes" and go eat at any local joint, or do they all go to the school dining hall? Do they go together as a team, or they show up whenever they want?
 

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Kinda depends on if they actually live on campus or not. Many eat at the dining hall because they can get free meals there. However, for instance, I rarely saw Jimmy at the dining halls.

As for when, they can eat whenever they want, wherever they want.
 

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Kinda depends on if they actually live on campus or not. Many eat at the dining hall because they can get free meals there. However, for instance, I rarely saw Jimmy at the dining halls.

As for when, they can eat whenever they want, wherever they want.

Did Jimmy live on campus? And thanks for the insight. You too IrishAlum1997. I will assume the two of you are not actually ND admin in disguise. :)

Just don't give out too much inside info publicly. Ya never know who is lurking
 
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I mean, he technically had a room on campus (in St. Ed's), but he actually lived off campus. It's a pretty common thing. I'm pretty sure that it is in their scholarship that they have to maintain an on-campus residence - at least I know it used to be. Can someone verify that?
 

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They should have forced the team to sit together and eat beef and potatoes after practice at the dining hall then. Focus less on their offseason basketball skills, and more on the football thingy.
 
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They should have forced the team to sit together and eat beef and potatoes after practice at the dining hall then. Focus less on their offseason basketball skills, and more on the football thingy.

This. Well said.
 

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They should have forced the team to sit together and eat beef and potatoes after practice at the dining hall then. Focus less on their offseason basketball skills, and more on the football thingy.

I think that situation has been rectified by their attendance at Camp Kelly.
 

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With all due respect to Notre Dame I have yet to see nutricious body balancing food in ANY cafeteria-espectially at a college campus. This is something that must take place. Of course keep the housing standards the same but change the food these guys eat for the good of the player. The students understand. The players can bring the guys in his pod a doggie bag to keep everybody happy and stay on the good side of his classmates. This should be no big deal to the administration. The $$$$ the school makes off football should allow for this.
 

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I can't believe as I read your post I see on TV a commercial about "I can't believe it's not butter...no trans fat, and yada, yada.

I was going to say that I watched a couple of ND Classic games on ESPN these past few weeks, and that no athlete on any of the teams on all sides appeared chunky, but I won't. They all seemed quick, aggresive, and ready to GO on every down. Guess the game evolves. But it never hurts to be bigger, faster, and stronger.

No showboating anywhere on those "Classic" games by either teams. Where did showboating come from?
 
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Recalling Ron trying to elude 5 star Navy and Air Force pass rushers, the baked ziti was probably too good for him.

Rumor has it Ron had a thing for Yo Cream. Made his ass fat.

Damn Navy pass rush.
 

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BTW, I never had any issue with our dining hall food (the senior citizen police that were there to make sure you didn't sneak out with an extra piece of fruit are another story). There were certainly nutritious choices, although not much variety.
 

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BTW, I never had any issue with our dining hall food (the senior citizen police that were there to make sure you didn't sneak out with an extra piece of fruit are another story). There were certainly nutritious choices, although not much variety.

word of advice, don't eat a double cheeseburger on the start of baseball winter conditioning. i could've used training table and guidance that day!
 

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Anybody remember when Sarkisian commented that the players were not physically impressive? That they had played USC and Notre Dame in the same season and it was nuts and bolts difference.

Most people just bashed sark for it blindly but I took heed with it. It just didnt seem to be a typical way to down talk a program. It seemed authentic.

I love ND but NDs own hubris has contributed to the decade of mediocrity were mired in. You have to evolve. You cant be lazy and call it tradition.

Hell even a old school place like Nebraska weas known for cutting edge weight training back in the 80s. This is ridiculous.

We never held leads in games and always got ground up in the 3rd quarters of games. Between no coaching adjustments and this stuff no wonder.
 

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I can't believe as I read your post I see on TV a commercial about "I can't believe it's not butter...no trans fat, and yada, yada.

I was going to say that I watched a couple of ND Classic games on ESPN these past few weeks, and that no athlete on any of the teams on all sides appeared chunky, but I won't. They all seemed quick, aggresive, and ready to GO on every down. Guess the game evolves. But it never hurts to be bigger, faster, and stronger.

No showboating anywhere on those "Classic" games by either teams. Where did showboating come from?

my generation created this. i just watched the 30 on or 30 at 30 on miami football during hte 80s... this is exactly where this stuff came from. it also didnt help that the nfl didnt allow any kind of celebration. that was what made it cool.
 

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my generation created this. i just watched the 30 on or 30 at 30 on miami football during hte 80s... this is exactly where this stuff came from. it also didnt help that the nfl didnt allow any kind of celebration. that was what made it cool.

It all evolved in the 80's. I remember the 83 Super Bowl the Dolphins did some stuff, then the redskins had that 11 man "high five" in the endzone that got banned. Miami Hurricanes under Howard Schnellenberger really kicked it off. Eric Dickerson with SMU was a showboat.

It kind of coincides with a societal decline in class and sportsmanship as a whole. Also, college football started to really get the dregs of society in to schools to play.
 

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Just posted on Brian Hardin's Twitter:
"FYI, a training table program for the ND football team began last night at the Gug. Dinners will be served Mon.-Fri. in Recruiting Lounge."
less than a minute ago from web

Here's the link: http://twitter.com/bhardin2
 

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Just posted on Brian Hardin's Twitter:
"FYI, a training table program for the ND football team began last night at the Gug. Dinners will be served Mon.-Fri. in Recruiting Lounge."
less than a minute ago from web

Here's the link: http://twitter.com/bhardin2

Nice find. Without rereading the entire thread, are all meals there mandatory, or how would that work?
 

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Nice find. Without rereading the entire thread, are all meals there mandatory, or how would that work?

The players would eat their dinner at the training table. All other meals would be in the dining halls.

This is a very good thing for ND. Every other D1 program has training tables, and it's about time ND got one too. The players will still eat their other meals with the student body, so they are still part of the student body as ND always wants it to be. But now Longo and his team will much more control over what they put into their bodies, as opposed to them 'following' a plan (which most of them, from what I've heard, never fully followed)...
 

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Will this training table follow all throughout the season?


Heres a quote from an article about the Table, actually this is the full article

After he completed one substantial change in his football program -- hiring a new head coach -- Notre Dame athletics director Jack Swarbrick discussed minimizing losses in other areas. One of those areas? The Irish roster's waistlines.

Swarbrick said weight loss on the defensive side was "frankly a little shocking" in 2009, players averaging double-digit pound reductions in-season. A priority, then, was a football-only training table -- a first for a school that is careful not to segregate its athletes in any way.

But as of Monday night, Notre Dame began a weeknight football training table dinner at the Guglielmino Athletics Complex, the school announced today.
Initially the program involves dinner Monday through Friday, with a menu developed by Erika Whitman, the athletic department's sports nutritionist, who also attended the meals to "help student-athletes make good choices," according to a release from the school.

Notre Dame said the football training table is one of two "pilot programs" that will begin this semester, though it offered no details on the second program.

For those traditionalists wincing at the idea of athlete segregation, the school said training table options and locations for other Irish sports programs are being studied currently.


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A Work In Progress

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South Bend Tribune: Notre Dame football: School begins experiment with training table

Bob Wienecke SBT 1/20

According to ND associate athletic director for sports performance Mike Karwoski this is a pilot program and will evolve. It's starting with dinner for the football team at the Gug.

Interesting tidbit the NCAA only allows one meal per day in such a program and non-scholarship athletes would have to pay their own way ("extra benefits" rule)
 
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