Is a BCS bowl Still possible?

[WaveDomer]

There is still a whole bunch of college football to be played this year. Our getting into a BCS or getting into the top 14 or whatever else may also be very dependent on what other teams do. College football is all over the place this year. So if we do win out, I think it's highly probable that we get into BCS territory. But this discussion can only solidify weeks from now when things really start to shake out.

 

[Morris614]

Would be great to see a Texas lose. The Big 12 wont get 2 teams into the BCS unless one goes to the championship.

 

[nlroma1o]

Would be great to see a Texas lose. The Big 12 wont get 2 teams into the BCS unless one goes to the championship.

What if OKstate beats Texas in 2 weeks? Do u think they could get 2 teams in the BCS without 1 going to the Championship game then? U never know. Or is it impossible due to BCS bowl relations to conferences? I don't know the answer. I'm sure BGIF knows the answer to this question.

 

[BGIF]

What if OKstate beats Texas in 2 weeks? Do u think they could get 2 teams in the BCS without 1 going to the Championship game then? U never know. Or is it impossible due to BCS bowl relations to conferences? I don't know the answer. I'm sure BGIF knows the answer to this question.

I've already posted that there's 6 or 7 weeks of football to play, half the season. Lots of shakin' out to take place.

 

[nlroma1o]

I've already posted that there's 6 or 7 weeks of football to play, half the season. Lots of shakin' out to take place.

I was asking about who can be eligble for which bcs game.

 

[NDMontana]

That's your M.O., speak for yourself.

I provided substance and you issued me Negative Reps. It's a shame they don't show up. Negative Reps from you is a mark of distinction.



Enough voters, both coaches and writers to be ranked 17th and 18th in the polls. Enough for Sagarin to rank them #19.



It speaks to Navy's fight which is the point I made.




"Titan of college football?" I didn't say that, did I?

Here's what I did say.



You're a troll. You offer no substance in your posts. You just like to poke eyes.

I get that feedback from a few people but the vast majority don't seem to feel that way. It's always convenient to duck behind the you're a troll comment when somebody calls you out.

You say I didn't offer substance. I actually talked about the opponents that Navy and Stanford have faced. I brought up the fact that you can't talk about Stanford's W/L record or their individual stats without pointing out the quality of competition they've faced.

Navy has defeated SMU, Rice, Western Kentucky and Louisiana Tech. Again, these aren't great teams.

So I make substantive points about the quality of competition that these teams, who you're building up, have faced--you know, to offer perspective--and you comeback with "you're a troll". Or you offer purely speculative and opinion based remarks like "Navy has fight". And you tell me I don't offer substance.

I back up what I'm saying with tangible points. Do you?

BTW, having the moderator title under your name doesn't make you a good poster or a more intelligent person.

 

[GoldenBoy3]

When you look at it, the only team that I think will be undefeated will either be Alabama or Florida depending on the outcome of the SEC Championship Game. Then you have the undefeated mid conference teams, the 1 loss teams, and the two loss teams. I think people would rather see a Miami vs. Notre Dame bowl compared compared to a Miami vs. TCU or Boise State. So in my opinion if they win out they'll make a BCS Bowl.

 

[NDinL.A.]

BTW, having the moderator title under your name doesn't make you a good poster or a more intelligent person.

Easy on that one Montana. You're not going to find a guy on this site (or many others to be honest) that knows more about ND football and ND in general, than BGIF. He's knows the ins and outs of the football program and has schooled many of us on ND, many times. I'm not even sure what you guys are arguing about, but I'm just saying...he's very intelligent.

BGIF: NDMontana is not a troll, he's an ND fan, but he does like to stir the pot (His take on having 15 QBs in football better than Jimmy Clausen a few weeks back was quite comical...I mean, Riley from Cal over Jimmy? C'mon Montana), and he believes he's right no matter what many times (as I do, sadly!), and will argue even when he's wrong. Like all of us, sometimes he's right, and sometimes he's wrong...

 

[irishfan]

BGIF: NDMontana is not a troll, he's an ND fan, but he does like to stir the pot (His take on having 15 QBs in football better than Jimmy Clausen a few weeks back was quite comical...I mean, Riley from Cal over Jimmy? C'mon Montana)

Don't forget Jacob Bower was on that list, the backup QB at Tulsa.

 

[NDMontana]

Easy on that one Montana. You're not going to find a guy on this site (or many others to be honest) that knows more about ND football and ND in general, than BGIF. He's knows the ins and outs of the football program and has schooled many of us on ND, many times. I'm not even sure what you guys are arguing about, but I'm just saying...he's very intelligent.

BGIF: NDMontana is not a troll, he's an ND fan, but he does like to stir the pot (His take on having 15 QBs in football better than Jimmy Clausen a few weeks back was quite comical...I mean, Riley from Cal over Jimmy? C'mon Montana), and he believes he's right no matter what many times (as I do, sadly!), and will argue even when he's wrong. Like all of us, sometimes he's right, and sometimes he's wrong...

More often than not I'm right though....just ask me and I tell you that!

 

[NDMontana]

Don't forget Jacob Bower was on that list, the backup QB at Tulsa.

How about Miami's God awful, crappy secondary that's the 17th best in the country?

Lets not get into calling out mistakes.

 

[JefMaj]

Hang in there Montana - I also know I'm always right. I thought I was wrong once but I found out later that I was mistaken about that - so, still perfect!

 

[irishfan]

How about Miami's God awful, crappy secondary that's the 17th best in the country?

Lets not get into calling out mistakes.

How about it? I never said anything about their secondary. ClausentoFloyd did, not me. You called their offense "dynamic" and I just pointed out Harris' TD to INT ratio and the fact that they are averaging just over 25 points a game if you take away their game with Florida A&M. But let's not get into calling out mistakes.

 

[JefMaj]

We go BCS if 10-2, and outside chance with 9-3 (if some top 25 teams lose and as long as we don't lose to Washington State, Navy, or Stanford (even though Stanfords gonna beat somebody yet - it's our last game - - bad last taste)) - we market well , get ratings, and sell tickets.

 

[CuerVo0220]

Hopefully Pitt wins the Big East. That would help a lot. I think BCS is possible with 10-2. The media has been critizing ND's opponents W/L ration from the beginning of the season and yet we manage to get back into the top 25 again before the SC game. This second half full of a lot of better teams than the first half. If we win out and win convincingly. I think we have a good shot.


GO IRISH!!!!!!!!

 

[JefMaj]

NCAA Ranks our SOS in the top 25 - only 7 teams ranked in the BCS have stronger schedules. In our remaining schedule: again only 7 teams ranked in the BCS have a tougher schedule. You schedule 3 Big 10's, 4 Pac 10's (haven't all 4 played in the Rose Bowl in the last decade and didn't 2 of the Big 10's), a good ACC school, and 2 of last year's top Big East schools... what else can you do? Karma comes through and all the "easy" schedule talk is BS.
ND didn't try and lighten its load.
Never played a lower division team and never will. Glad I'm never going to a tailgate or walking to my car saying "Man, we kicked Charleston Southern's ass whoooo hoooo!!!!!"

 

[jonesman]

I have one thing to say about our chances of a BCS if we win 10 games. HELL YES!!!!!!

There is NO way that ND fails to get a BCS invite if we win 10 games. Trust me that those magic computers will spit out ND to play. Remember that the BCS is about ONE thing, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!! Guess what, ND travels better and draws better TV ratings than any team in America. Certainly better than, Cincinnati, Boise St., TCU, Utah or any other small time school. Sorry for the dose of reality to those schools.

Finally, our supposed patsy schedule is turning out one of the tougher in the country. We will likely face 7-8 teams that go to bowls. Our cause will be further helped when UM beats PSU this weekend and MSU beats Iowa.

 

[phork]

I have one thing to say about our chances of a BCS if we win 10 games. HELL YES!!!!!!

There is NO way that ND fails to get a BCS invite if we win 10 games. Trust me that those magic computers will spit out ND to play. Remember that the BCS is about ONE thing, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!! Guess what, ND travels better and draws better TV ratings than any team in America. Certainly better than, Cincinnati, Boise St., TCU, Utah or any other small time school. Sorry for the dose of reality to those schools.

Finally, our supposed patsy schedule is turning out one of the tougher in the country. We will likely face 7-8 teams that go to bowls. Our cause will be further helped when UM beats PSU this weekend and MSU beats Iowa.

Must be top14 to qualify for selection. Must be top8 to guarantee a selection. While I think it might be possible to get to top14, I still don't think that will help.

 

[irishfan]

As long as USC win the PAC-10 and Texas wins the Big 12, those conferences should only get one spot and were pretty much guaranteed a spot if were in the top 14.

 

[jonesman]

Phork,
I will bet you two ND tickets that we go to a BCS if we win 10 games. I don't care what else anyone does. We will NOT be locked out with 10 wins. NO WAY

 

[phork]

Florida and Alabama are almost certain locks, as is Texas, USC, Iowa and PSU. Throw in Cinci and Boise and I think Miami and either VT or more like GT out of the ACC. And lurking just out of range is OklahomaSt, Oregon and WestVirginia.

I don't see Boise, Texas, Alabama, USC, PSU, Miami/VT/GT (GT will win the ACC imo), Oregon loses early enough to USC to remain in the hunt and who really knows how good WVU is.

All I see is the "No Vacancy" sign at the Hotel BCS. And believe me if all those teams are 13 and higher and ND sneaks in at 14 there will be some serious riots in the streets. Good for us and Bad for us since it will be the same old same old. ND gets special treatment, ND can't win the big one etc etc.

IMO ND has to do more than be #14.

 

[irishfan]

Florida and Alabama are almost certain locks, as is Texas, USC, Iowa and PSU. Throw in Cinci and Boise and I think Miami and either VT or more like GT out of the ACC. And lurking just out of range is OklahomaSt, Oregon and WestVirginia.

I don't see Boise, Texas, Alabama, USC, PSU, Miami/VT/GT (GT will win the ACC imo), Oregon loses early enough to USC to remain in the hunt and who really knows how good WVU is.

All I see is the "No Vacancy" sign at the Hotel BCS. And believe me if all those teams are 13 and higher and ND sneaks in at 14 there will be some serious riots in the streets. Good for us and Bad for us since it will be the same old same old. ND gets special treatment, ND can't win the big one etc etc.

IMO ND has to do more than be #14.

Agree pretty much and I know what you're saying, but I just don't see us getting turned down if we're in the top 14. I think we'll be team "#10" getting chosen over either 13-0 Boise State, 12-0 TCU, or 11-1/10-2 Iowa, or a 10-2 PSU.

 

[phork]

Boise is automatically in. By virtue of that, TCU is out. If they win out that is. 1 BCS buster is guaranteed with a top6 finish (I think its 6), but only 1.

 

[jason_h537]

I think its actually automaticif your in the top 12 but if two or more non bcs teams are in the top 12 than only one is mandatory.

 

[BGIF]

Paraphrased from Blue & Gold

"Clearing Up The BCS"

Invitations won't be issued unitl 12/6

Here are some general guidelines for ND to qualify:

• 1) Top 2 teams in Fnal BCS Poll playin inteh NC Game.
• 2) Champs of the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac 10, and SEC have automatic berths
• 3) ND will earn an automatic berth if it is in the TOP 8 of the Final BCS Standings.
• 4) The Champ of Conf USA, the MAC, the MWC, the Sun Belt, or the WAC earns an automatic berth IF a member team is ranked in the TOP 12 of the final BCS Standings but NO MORE THAN ONE such team shall be invited.

Other at large restrictions apply per B&G but these are the 4 basic rules to follow for a guaranteed berth.

 

[NDMontana]

How about it? I never said anything about their secondary. ClausentoFloyd did, not me. You called their offense "dynamic" and I just pointed out Harris' TD to INT ratio and the fact that they are averaging just over 25 points a game if you take away their game with Florida A&M. But let's not get into calling out mistakes.

I just checked the thread and I stand corrected--it was all CtoF.

 

[DoverShores]

Well as far as calculating what it's gonna take to get up into the BCS consideration ranking, how many more weeks to you guys think it'll be before the polls will put us back into the top 25. They've been a little hesitant with us already this season.

 

[irishfan]

Well as far as calculating what it's gonna take to get up into the BCS consideration ranking, how many more weeks to you guys think it'll be before the polls will put us back into the top 25. They've been a little hesitant with us already this season.

Ya, I think with a win over BC were back in both top 25s. We have a pretty good combo of games with teams ranked 20-25 and teams ranked just ahead or just behind us in the Also Receiving Votes.

 

[BGIF]

Well as far as calculating what it's gonna take to get up into the BCS consideration ranking, how many more weeks to you guys think it'll be before the polls will put us back into the top 25. They've been a little hesitant with us already this season.

A win over BC Saturday should move ND into the next Top 25.

#25 OU (3 losses) plays at #24 Kansas. One of them is going down.

#23 So Car (2 losses) should be safe against Vandy

#22 WVU (1 lose) should be safe against CON

#21 Texas Tech (2 losses) has a laughter against A&M

#20 PIT (1 loss) could get dumped against USF BUT as USF (1 lose) is only a couple of votes behind ND expect the Big East to support they're revenue sharing conference member in maintaining an Big East presence in the Top 25

#19 Utah (1 lose) should be safe against Air Force

#18 OSU (2 losses) should be a safe against Minnesota but nobody saw them losing to Purdue.

#17 Houston (1 lose) plays SMU - safe

#16 BYU (1 lose) takes on #10 TCU in Provo. A TCU win drops BYU to a 2 loss team same as ND (with a win over BC). BUT would BYU drop 10 slots? Unlikely.


Teams from 15 and lower could lose but they won't drop out creating a spot for ND to move up.


A Michigan (2 losses) win over #13 PSU would probably vault UM over ND.
A Mississippi (2 losses) win over Arkansas could also vault MS ahead of ND.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

In my mind, Jimmy's injury is huge. I already predicted a .500 season, based on the TOUGH SCHEDULE, and his injury and the fact that the guys are dropping like flies makes it even tougher.

Let's hope we get there. They still need more depth. Next year guys. Sorry to say. Let's hope for this year though.

I think CW is working on it. Don't blame him.