2010 depth chart

[NDinL.A.]

Duncan, Young, Stewart and Olson are all seniors.

Duncan or Stewart, I foeget which one, has a redshirt, and he has a year of eligibility left. Jason is right, we lose 3 starters, not 4.

As for JC, i outlined all the reasons why I think he'll turn pro in another thread a few weeks back. He could come back, but it wouldn't shock me in the least if he left, and I wouldn't blame him. And us losing 3 starters from the O-line, like Bradford had with all those starters gone, doesn't help (esp after Bradford's 2 injuries)...

 

[NDMontana]

Stewart was red shirted his freshman year. Hes got 1 more year after this season.

He's listed as a senior in every publication I've read. When you've been redshirted you're listed as Jr. (RS) which means you're a red shirt junior. In no publication is Stewart listed as a Sr. (RS). He's just listed as a senior.

 

[NDinL.A.]

He's listed as a senior in every publication I've read. When you've been redshirted you're listed as Jr. (RS) which means you're a red shirt junior. In no publication is Stewart listed as a Sr. (RS). He's just listed as a senior.

You're wrong dude, accept it. Move on. Everywhere I've read, on the 2 premium sites I was on (just one now), they have Stewart eligible to come back if he chooses. We lose 3 starters, and possibly a 4th if Stewart doesn't want to come back and go to grad school as he applies for a 5th year.

(ND doesn't even use the term redshirt, although I'm not sure in the publication that you read if they just used it anyways for guys with a 'redshirt' like H. Smith. That could be an explanation for why you don't see the term redshirt.)

 

[NDMontana]

You're wrong dude, accept it. Move on. Everywhere I've read, on the 2 premium sites I was on (just one now), they have Stewart eligible to come back if he chooses. We lose 3 starters, and possibly a 4th if Stewart doesn't want to come back and go to grad school as he applies for a 5th year.

(ND doesn't even use the term redshirt, although I'm not sure in the publication that you read if they just used it anyways for guys with a 'redshirt' like H. Smith. That could be an explanation for why you don't see the term redshirt.)

Notre Dame Official Athletic Site
Chris Stewart - College Football

 

[NDinL.A.]

Notre Dame Official Athletic Site
Chris Stewart - College Football

Thank you for proving my point. Do you get it now? Can we move on?

 

[GoIrish41]

OFFENE
QB- Jimmy

RB-Armando Allen

WR-Michael Floyd

WR-Golden Tate

WR - John Goodman

TE-Kyle Rudolph

FB-Robert Hughes

LT-Matt Romine

LG-Chris Stewart

OC-Braxton Cave

RG-Trevor Robinson

RT-Lane Clelland

DEFENSE
DE-Kapron Lewis-Moore

DT-Tyler Stockton or Brandon Newman

DT-Ian Williams

DE-Ethan Johnson

OLB-Darrius Fleming

MLB-Brian Smith

OLB-Manti Teo

CB-Gary Gray

SS-Harrison Smith

FS-Danny McCarthy

CB-Darrin Walls

SPECIAL TEAMS
KR - Theo Riddick and Cierre Wood

PR - Tate

 

[NDMontana]

Thank you for proving my point. Do you get it now? Can we move on?

Didn't really prove your point....he's listed as a senior. So he's senior.

Who pissed on your fuckin' cheerios?

 

[BeatSC]

Is this a crazy thought?

Is this a crazy thought?

I think we have depth at the LB position in 10 more than any previous year (remember converting Travis Tomas to LB?). After seeing Taylor Mays back there for USC and the expected tackling production needed from our Safety's (McCarthy) why not get Teo to lose 10 lbs and convert him to a wild man safety? We have enough quality LB's and I can't imagine Teo being any worse in pass coverage than Smith.

 

[neags23]

Didn't really prove your point....he's listed as a senior. So he's senior.

Who pissed on your fuckin' cheerios?

Check out the summary of his freshman year in the second link you posted.

He didn't play his freshman year, so he's eligible for another year. It'd be like a retro-active redshirt. Like how Zbikowski came back in '07, even though he was a senior in '06.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Didn't really prove your point....he's listed as a senior. So he's senior.

Who pissed on your fuckin' cheerios?

Nobody, but you act like you are right and you are completely wrong. You keep arguing a losing point that is not even up for debate; you're not listening to a word anyone is saying. I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you have no idea what you are talking about. Here's why:

Notre Dame, like I said, does not use the term redshirt. If you are held out a year, you are still listed with your graduating class. It's basically the university saying that the athlete is a student first. As per units, Stewart is a senior, thus he is listed as a senior. It has nothing to do with his playing status. Upon completing 4 years at the university, a player that has a year of eligibility left can apply for a 5th year (in which he will take grad courses), which is subject to the university granting the 5th year. In other words, you will not hear a ND 5th year senior taking ballroom dancing a la Matty Leinhart.

So that's why I told you that you proved my point. In your link, it shows that Stewart did not play his freshman year, thus preserving a year of eligibility. He's a senior in credits, a jr as far as eligibility.

Now can we move on?

 

[jason_h537]

Didn't really prove your point....he's listed as a senior. So he's senior.

Who pissed on your fuckin' cheerios?

Notre Dame does not officially redshirt. Chris tewart is listed as a senior, but Dayne is also listed as a sophmore, so is KLM, and A-Mac and so on, even though we know they did not play last year and have 3 years left of eliginility after this season

 

[Riddickulous]

OFFENE
QB- Jimmy

RB-Armando Allen

WR-Michael Floyd

WR-Golden Tate

WR - John Goodman

TE-Kyle Rudolph

FB-Robert Hughes

LT-Matt Romine

LG-Chris Stewart

OC-Braxton Cave

RG-Trevor Robinson

RT-Lane Clelland

DEFENSE
DE-Kapron Lewis-Moore

DT-Tyler Stockton or Brandon Newman

DT-Ian Williams

DE-Ethan Johnson

OLB-Darrius Fleming

MLB-Brian Smith

OLB-Manti Teo

CB-Gary Gray

SS-Harrison Smith

FS-Danny McCarthy

CB-Darrin Walls

SPECIAL TEAMS
KR - Theo Riddick and Cierre Wood

PR - Tate

Goodman? Maybe. I think Shaq will be the third receiver next year.

If, by some divine miracle, we land Kyle Prater, I think he might see the field early, as the third receiver.

 

[jonesman]

Since this can of worms got opened, I will add my thoughts.

Jimmy's return is something that I cannot answer. He may leave just to avoid the same fate as a guy named, Bradford.

QB: Clausen or Crist if Clausen leaves
RB: Allen, Hughes and Riddick
FB: Robertson
WR's: Tate and Floyd. Kamare, Deion, Shaq and Goodman share 3rd spot.
TE: Rudolph and Ragone
LT: Robinson. Put your best OL athlete here.
LG: Stewart
C: Wenger
LG: Nuss
RT: Romine

DE: KLM and Ethan, who moves to DE.
DT: Hafis and Cwynar share this
NT: Ian Williams
LB: Fleming, Teo and Smith with Filer helping
CB: Blanton, Gray and Walls who returns for a 5th year.
Safety: Harrison Smith and Zeke Motta.

 

[jason_h537]

QB: Clausen (I just think he comes back)
HB: Allen
FB: Hughes
WR: Tate and Floyd
TE: Rudolph
LT: Romine
LG: Stewart
C: Wenger
RG: Nuss
RT: Robinson

DE: KLM, Johnson
DT: Williams, Williams
SLB: B Smith
MLB: Te'o
WLB: Fleming
CB: Gary, Blanton
SS: D McCarthy
FS: H Smith

 

[JefMaj]

Doesn't Olsen have a 5th year? A few do - I thought...

 

[jason_h537]

Wish he did but he is done

 

[WabashFalcon]

Guys... T'eo can go on his mission.

 

[irishandy]

Let's finish the 2009 season first...LOTS of things can happen before 2010.

 

[phork]

Might as well scratch Tate off that list as well, especially if Jimmy goes. Tate will be taking a long hard look at what the NFL has to offer him.
Its bitter-sweet to see these guys go, but nice to see that ND players will soon be filling NFL rosters again.

 

[kmoose]

Might as well scratch Tate off that list as well, especially if Jimmy goes. Tate will be taking a long hard look at what the NFL has to offer him.
Its bitter-sweet to see these guys go, but nice to see that ND players will soon be filling NFL rosters again.

I'm not saying that Tate would not go in the first round, and that he won't seriously consider it, but I think he is absolutely one of the guys that Charlie would counsel to stay another year. Tate is not NFL ready. He has great hands.............as long as he doesn't have to fight a defender for the ball. If the DB goes up and doesn't make a play? Tate will catch the ball, ala the 45 yarder in the USC game. But he is either incapable, or unwilling, to go up and fight a defender for the ball, like Michael Floyd does. I think Tate would absolutely benefit from another year at the college level.

 

[aaronb]

Qb- Crist (Clausen is probably gone)
TB- Mondo Allen
FB- Hughes
Wr- Floyd
Wr- Tate
Te-Rudy
LT-Romine
Lg-Stewart (back for 5th year)
C- Wenger (back for 5th year)
Rg-TRob
Rt- Taylor Dever

De-Kerry Neal
Dt- Ian Williams
Dt- Ethan Williams
De- KLM

OLB- Fleming
Mlb- Brian Smith
OLB- Manti

Cb- Gary Gray
Cb- Darrin Walls (5th year)
Nickel- Ej Banks or Josh Shaw
Fs- Robert Blanton
SS- Harrison Smith or Zeke Motta

 

[GoIrish41]

I'm not saying that Tate would not go in the first round, and that he won't seriously consider it, but I think he is absolutely one of the guys that Charlie would counsel to stay another year. Tate is not NFL ready. He has great hands.............as long as he doesn't have to fight a defender for the ball. If the DB goes up and doesn't make a play? Tate will catch the ball, ala the 45 yarder in the USC game. But he is either incapable, or unwilling, to go up and fight a defender for the ball, like Michael Floyd does. I think Tate would absolutely benefit from another year at the college level.

Not saying you are wrong about not being NFL ready, but him not fighting for the ball? Are we talking about the same guy? Because that is one of the things the Golden Tate I'm talking does best.

 

[JeremyND07]

I think Chris Martin comes in and starts at DE next year. I wish a freshman could come in and start at CB because I do not like the guys coming back.

 

[jason_h537]

I do not like the idea of freshman coming in and starting anywhere. There are always exceptions to the rules but if we want to get to the elite level it requires having athletes in the system and reloading as opposed to replacing. We need experience as well as skill. As for Chris Martin and Blake Leuders they will likely end up in the 2 deep from day one sticktly because of the numbers.

 

[GoldenBoy3]

I think hell stay because I still think hes not just ready for the NFL yet. If he stays he competes for the NC and for the Heisman with Bradford.

 

[peredonov]

QB Clausen
RB Allen
FB Hughes
WR Tate
WR Floyd
WR Kamara
WR Evans
TE Rudolph
LT Romine
LG Stewart
C Wenger
RG T-Rob
RT Henderson

Base Defense on 1st and 2nd downs
LE KLM
RE E. Johnson (if one or more DT steps up)
DT Williams
DT Cwynar, Williams, Newman (very optimistic, too much maybe)
SLB Fleming
MLB Teo
WLB Smith
CB Gray
CB Walls
CB Blanton
FS Slaughter
SS Motta

K Tausch
P Turk

KR Riddick, Evans
PR Tate/Riddick

 

[goldandblue]

I think Clausen will be back next year. He said he was going to deliver a national championship to Notre Dame and I think he will do everything in his power to do so. I actually think the o-line will be better next year than this year as well with 1 more year under Verducci even with the loss of Olsen.

 

[kmoose]

Not saying you are wrong about not being NFL ready, but him not fighting for the ball? Are we talking about the same guy? Because that is one of the things the Golden Tate I'm talking does best.

What I mean by that, is that he is not the kind of guy who can go up and take an underthrown ball away from a defender. Or he just hasn't shown that ability yet. That's something that you have to be able to do, in the NFL. Floyd has it, without a doubt. How many jump balls have we seen Floyd come down with? A ton. That TD catch against Michigan? The defender had great position on Floyd (on the underthrown ball), and Floyd just went up and took it away from him. How many jump balls have we seen Tate come down with? Not many. I'm not knocking Tate, I just think that this is an aspect of his game that he will need, but that is not NFL-ready just yet.

 

[BGIF]

... I'm not knocking Tate, I just think that this is an aspect of his game that he will need, but that is not NFL-ready just yet.

I agree on the not NFL-ready just yet. He was a HS RB. He became an OJT WR at ND. His development is still not where Floyd and other WRs that have played the position for years are. And more importantly he won't be playing against 3 star DBs in the NFL. Everbody's fast. Everybody can leap.

Tate has tremendous raw talent, he still needs polishing. He could jump but it would be premature.

 

[BGIF]

Are you Depth Chart Engineers leaving a spot for Charlie's walkon scholarship?

He likes to hold a scholarship in hand to reward the outstanding walkon and to serve as an incentive to the other walkons.