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Mike Huguenin, Rivals.com has an article, Chance To Make A Statement, listing 8 games in September for one or both games to get some notice.

Rivals.com College Football - Monday with Mike: Chance to make a statement

His #8 game is ND v Nevada

Sept. 5: There's nothing like beating Notre Dame – even a so-so Notre Dame – to get a school some national attention. Nevada plays host to Missouri on Sept. 25 in a game it could win, but beating the Irish would do vastly more for the Wolf Pack's profile. Nevada coach Chris Ault's "Pistol" offense has gained some recognition, but a win over the Irish truly would pique interest in the formation. A victory also would show that Nevada is a team to be reckoned with in the Western Athletic Conference race. Conversely, a loss at home to the Wolf Pack would really set the wolves a-howlin' around Charlie Weis. Notre Dame needs a decisive win.
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It is a statement game for Nevada. Ask the Syracuse players or Navy's '07 team. Purdue attested to the importance of beating a bad ND team when they had the score of the ND game etched into the side of their rings.

The ND players could use to make some statements in a game.

But for Charlie Weis, each week might be a "statement game" for his future. A Nevada win let's lose the floodgates at FireWeis.com and probably sites like this one as well. It would get ugly fast and the recruiting forum would get very quiet - good newswise anyway. People would label it "The Obit Game". A win would be Charlie's "Hawaii Was No Fluke" game.

An ND win and Charlie has a statement game the next week against Rich Rod who needs to avoid a statement game like last year's ND game.

Ditto for Charlie the next week against MSU, can he make a "Not In Our House" statement?

PU should be a breather. Hey it's a brand new coach. D'Antonio was a new coach against ND and so was the guy from B.C. Could there be the "I do have a schematic advantage over new coaches" statement?

Then there's the "I can beat Jake Locker and 18 returning starters" statement game.

At 5-0 there's the "I Can Win The Big One" statement game or "Poodle's my daddy" statement game.

Undefeated going to the BC game brings up the "Gordon WHO?" or "The Curse Repeats!" statement game.

Each week for the rest of the season, the schedule boils down to a repeat of "I Can Beat The Teams We're Supposed To Beat" statement game.

Then come BCS time, and there's the "@#$%^ Right, We're Back! statement game.


And I'll be glad I don't have to hear about Tom Brady and schematic advantages again.

That would be a statement!
 
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Nevada really is not that bad. They also have a really good QB in Colin Kapernik (did I spell that right?). Although I would still be surprised if they beat us, as they have a horrible defense (119th ranked pass defense, 91st ranked overall defense).
 
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IrishInFL said:
Nevada really is not that bad. They also have a really good QB in Colin Kapernik (did I spell that right?). Although I would still be surprised if they beat us, as they have a horrible defense (119th ranked pass defense, 91st ranked overall defense).
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Agree on all points but the spelling, I think there's another "e" and a "c", Kaepernick.

Kaepernick was ranked one slot lower at 132.09 than Clausen's 132.49 in the NCAA '08 QB Efficiency Ratings. Clausen threw 25 TD to 17 INTs. Kaepernick threw 22 TDs to 7 INTS. His TD/INT ratio was less than 50% of Jimmy's. Kaepernick's a dual threat QB with about 4000 yds Total O, 2800+ passing and 1100+ on rushing, 39 total TDs.

Nevada averaged almost 38 ppg but allowed 32. If ND plays like they did against SDS it will be ugly. They're a much better team than the Aztecs. Nevada has two 1000 yd rushers. Lippincot rushed for 1400 yds in '07 but sat out '08 with an ACL. Taua rushed for 1500 yds while Lippincot was out last year. They both return in a backfield with a 1000 yd rusher.

ND needs to score on the first drive and set the tone. Ian Williams and the Secondary have live up to expectations. ND does not want to get into a shootout with these guys. Bombs to Tate and Floyd could well be answered by long drives wearing out defenders. ND needs to control the clock.
 
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ND not only needs to win this game, but they need to mud stomp Nevada and then mud stomp Michigan. Remember there are no more excuses this year so this just might be as good as it gets.
 
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Stats close except...

Stats close except...

in two areas. Nevada gave up a lot more points per game
during the 2008 season and the Rivals 4-yr average team
talent estimate is lopsided in favor of ND.


If you go by Rivals estimate of recruit rostered talent
ND is replaying Hawaii...Tom

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Get a lead and then run up the score dammit! I don't want any of this "we're gentlemen and we don't run up the score" BS!!! Put your foot on their throat and don't stop pushing down until you hear the neck snap! The only way we can get the swagger going is to put up some points and hold the damn lead. Then go in to the Big House and bitch slap dick rod!

I'm through being nice! C'mon Irish - Kill 'em all, let God sort 'em out!!!
 
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I think every game this season is a statement game. Once our Irish slip up (even against U$C), people will be talking about Charlie being on the hot seat and our lack of talent. I say lets make a statement and just go out and win them all. Go Irish!
 
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This is charlies signature year. It can be a lead in to a long term contract or his last season. The OL needs to play to their potential, or even 50% of it. We need some blow outs, less damn screens, more of the Hawaii bowl ass kickings. I hate to rush summer, but I can't wait for the season to start.
 
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i personally dont care how we win as long as we win, it can be 3-2 for all i care a win is a win. tell you one thing, u wont hear me bitching the sunday after an ugly win.

forget losing if this irish team doesnt win flawlessly, i guarantee there will be moaning from somebody on this forum.
 
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If they beat Nevada 3-2 we will be in for a long year.
 
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phork said:
If they beat Nevada 3-2 we will be in for a long year.
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But we'd be 1-0.

Walker would have made the winning kick.

The Defense would have played their best game since '02.

And Crist would be taking most of the snaps in practice.

And lots of ND fans would be getting prescriptions for high blood pressure.



I wouldn't be happy but ND will still be alive for another week.


In '92 Gene Stallings was repeatedly criticized by the media and fellow coaches for winning ugly. His QB, Jay Barker was far from prime time but he didn't turn the ball over. He played close to flawless football and a tough defense did the rest. Stallings took ugly football and beat Spurrier in the SEC Championship and Miami in the Sugar Bowl for an NC.
 
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Ugly wins are nice when you have a winning program to begin, because then people will cut you some slack. Had Stallings gone 3-9 then 6-6 I think you might have seen something different. Aside from that the only close games were against a #13 Tennessee team, a #16 MississippiSt a #6 Florida team in the SEC championship. And the season opener against SouthernMiss. Minimum difference of 7 points.
 
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Answer for BGIF...

Answer for BGIF...

BGIF said:
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Just curious, how did Syracuse's '08 talent stack up?




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A more talented team, per Rivals, compared
to Nev. Played a tougher schedule...Tom

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every game is a statement game b/c the country continues to laugh at us. throw in the old cliche, one game(statement) at a time. they better make big statements i can tell you that b/c i'm sick of pacing the fk around the house full of anxiety every saturday!!!!!!
 
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I'll try again. Editing screwed up your table's formatting. I tried to put both of your tables in the same post for clarity. Sorry you'll have to go back and read the first table where posted
 
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Easton Pa ND Fan said:
A more talented team, per Rivals, compared
to Nev. Played a tougher schedule...Tom

N.B.SEE TOM'S POST BELOW FOR SYR DATA AND HIS FIRST POST FOR NEV and ND DATA. The formatting won't hold when I quoted it.




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I'm puzzled Tom how Syr is the more talented team as their Keeper's Pow Rate, Moore's Pow Rate, and Sagarin Pow Rate are all LOWER than Nevada's per your data below.

ND's Average Pow (73.7) would give them about a 12 edge on a neutral field over SYR (61.73).

Nevada's 68.39 Average Pow Rate would give ND about 5 points edge on a neutral field.

Nevada has the HIGHER Pow Rate over SYR by almost a TD (with XP) 68.39 versus 61.73.
 
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Sagarin has NEV #71, SYR #104

Sagarin has NEV #71, SYR #104

Sagarin

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rates ND as Team #53, NEV #71, and SYR 33 places lower at #104.

Whether you use RATING, ELO_CHESS, or PREDICTOR, Nevada is deemed the better team than Sryacuse by a range of not quite 4 points to more than 11 points. Syracuse does best in ELO_CHESS where MOV is shaved.
 
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Your right about the power ratings...

Your right about the power ratings...

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Sagarin

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rates ND as Team #53, NEV #71, and SYR 33 places lower at #104.

Whether you use RATING, ELO_CHESS, or PREDICTOR, Nevada is deemed the better team than Sryacuse by a range of not quite 4 points to more than 11 points. Syracuse does best in ELO_CHESS where MOV is shaved.
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I compared the average power ratings for both teams and their
respective schedules. Even though Syracues had a 5 point
tougher schedule, Nevada had a 6 point bettter power rating.


The net goes to Nevada. It is weird, I was swayed in the
original post by the roster talent and the schedule dis-
parity...:confused:
 
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It still doesn't change that Nevada was last in pass defense last season.
 
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I compared the average power ratings for both teams and their
respective schedules. Even though Syracues had a 5 point
tougher schedule, Nevada had a 6 point bettter power rating.


The net goes to Nevada. It is weird, I was swayed in the
original post by the roster talent and the schedule dis-
parity...:confused:
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I was swayed in the original post by the roster talent and the schedule dis-parity...
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And so were the ND players and coaches. Syracuse came in with a lame duck coach, poor performance and ND had played much tougher teams.

Recipe for upset. The computer doesn't factor in, "Win One For The Gipper" or in "Cuse's case, "Win One For The Guy We Got Fired"

As usual, thanks Tom.
 
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It still doesn't change that Nevada was last in pass defense last season.
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No, it doesn't.

Nor does it change that Nevada was 6th in Rush Defense last season, 1 yard/game below USC. Nor that Syracuse was 106th.

Nor that Nevada was ranked ahead of Syracuse in Total Defense either.

Nor that Nevada was ranked 3rd in rushing while 'Cuse was 55th at about 50% of Nevada's rushing production. Is it relevant that Nevada returns a 1000 yard rusher that sat out last year with injury. That gives them 3, 1000 yd rushers in the same backfield this year. How many did 'Cuse have?

Shall we compare their QB who's ranked one slot lower than Clausen on the NCAA QB Efficiency Rating with the 'Cuse QB?

This is a much better team than Syracuse who ND found a way to lose to.

If ND plays like they did against Hawaii there should be a similar margin of victory. If ND plays like they did against Syracuse they'll find them selves in another Statement game.

Michigan had much better talent than Appalachian St AND Toledo COMBINED but found a way to lose to both under two difference head coaches both with successful records.

Before the game App St and the Rockets believed they could play with Michigan. As the game went on they knew they could win. Meanwhile fear was striking the Weasels as they realized they could lose.


The good news is Nevada returns most of their defense. The bad news ND players read too.
 
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