Stop the Insanity!!!!

[NeuteredDoomer]

Friggen lol.

 

[Riddickulous]

I once had a USC fan in my house also... but he took off pretty quick after the brinks security alarm went off

If I'd laughed any harder I would've gone into a coma.

 

[kmoose]

I must admit, I believed in Charlie Weis after his first season. Everyone did. I still believed in him after the 2006 season. After 2007, I still clung to the dogged belief that Charlie Weis was a good coach. After 2008, I was done believing.

The doubt added up after each terrible loss: Michigan 2006/2007, USC 2006/2007/2008, LSU, Georgia Tech, Penn State, Navy, Air Force, North Carolina, Pitt, Boston College, Syracuse.

I am finished with Charlie Weis. I will never believe in him until he WINS a BCS bowl.

When he does, you will not be allowed to say jack-shit about what a great coach he is. You are either on board, or not. If you want to "believe" when the team is successful, go become another USC, tOSU, or Oregon bandwagon fan.

 

[kmoose]

You're putting the "Bush Push" under a terrible loss? That wasn't him. That was the D-Cordy calling Man-to-Man on a 4th and 11 and watching our boy just get freaking SMOKED.


(Fuck that makes me mad.... really. Fucking. Mad).

Go back and watch the replay of the game, Wabash. The coverage was there. Leinhart just lucked into putting a ball into possibly the smallest window ever available.

 

[Riddickulous]

Go back and watch the replay of the game, Wabash. The coverage was there. Leinhart just lucked into putting a ball into possibly the smallest window ever available.

It was a beautiful throw.

 

[ACamp1900]

When he does, you will not be allowed to say jack-shit about what a great coach he is. You are either on board, or not. If you want to "believe" when the team is successful, go become another USC, tOSU, or Oregon bandwagon fan.

I respectfully disagree here... Supporting the school through thick and thin is a fan... not believing certain staff members or players are the ones needed to get the job done is something totally different.... in fact, a true fan is one who sticks by the team in question even when that fan believes they don't currently have what it takes...

the Notre Dame fan who thinks we are gonna win theBCS title every year is just flat annoying... the Irish fan who says, "Yeah, it just ain't our time right now and we def. do not have the right personel... but that's still my team." Is a much better fan imo...

 

[Echo Insanity]

Go back and watch the replay of the game, Wabash. The coverage was there. Leinhart just lucked into putting a ball into possibly the smallest window ever available.

you're right that wooden covered it well, but there was still a window, hence the danger of leaving man coverage on the outside. had they not blitzed Ndukwe, Zibby's sole responsibility would have been to prevent the throw to Jarrett. at the very least, dropping both safties would have prevented the forty yards after the catch. im not saying they would definatley have stopped them by playing cover 2, but i just never liked the decision of blitzing the free safety in that situation.

 

[kmoose]

you're right that wooden covered it well, but there was still a window, hence the danger of leaving man coverage on the outside. had they not blitzed Ndukwe, Zibby's sole responsibility would have been to prevent the throw to Jarrett. at the very least, dropping both safties would have prevented the forty yards after the catch. im not saying they would definatley have stopped them by playing cover 2, but i just never liked the decision of blitzing the free safety in that situation.

I get what you are saying...........but..........

I hate the idea of letting the QB sit back in the pocket and take all day to decide where to go with the ball, even more. Let's face it........it was a gamble, but a reasonable gamble.

 

[TDHeysus]

I get what you are saying...........but..........

I hate the idea of letting the QB sit back in the pocket and take all day to decide where to go with the ball, even more. Let's face it........it was a gamble, but a reasonable gamble.

I hate to say anything good about a USC player, but leinart made that play. he walked up to the line, called a friggen audible (he read the defense, and checked off to the correct play - a pro-style read, he made the play).

Now, the 'bush-push', was a friggen penalty - for some reason it wasnt called. just like on the previous play when leinart threw the ball out of bounds on purpose to make sure the clock was stopped; that should have been called too.

 

[Riddickulous]

The Bush Push was a penalty, but it is so rarely called that the referees probably knew nothing about it.

On the second to last play, Leinart legitimately fumbled.

 

[Echo Insanity]

heres the replay. the 4th and 9 starts at 2:10.

YouTube - USC vs Notre Dame 4th and 9, 2005 1/2

The key to the play is the fact that Ndukwe is positioned deep and waits till the ball is snapped before he starts running to the QB. This was most likely to try and disguise the coverage, appearing as if both safeties would be dropping back. Unfortunately, it appears that Leinart was able to read Ndukwe's stance and in turn called the audible for Jarrett.

 

[kmoose]

heres the replay. the 4th and 9 starts at 2:10.

YouTube - USC vs Notre Dame 4th and 9, 2005 1/2

The key to the play is the fact that Ndukwe is positioned deep and waits till the ball is snapped before he starts running to the QB. This was most likely to try and disguise the coverage, appearing as if both safeties would be dropping back. Unfortunately, it appears that Leinart was able to read Ndukwe's stance and in turn called the audible for Jarrett.

The key to the play is that Zbikowski just got lazy. First off, he allowed the receiver to get deeper than him. Secondly, you can see that he is kind of lazily running over to the ball, as if he just assumed that it would be incomplete due to Wooden's good coverage. You can see him accelerate, as soon as he realizes that the ball is caught. Zibby had a great career, and I know that this one play is certainly not indicative of his normal play. But it just goes to show you why the saying "You've got to bring it on every play." is an OLD saying. It's because it's been proven true, over and over again.

 

[Riddickulous]

The key to the play is that Zbikowski just got lazy. First off, he allowed the receiver to get deeper than him. Secondly, you can see that he is kind of lazily running over to the ball, as if he just assumed that it would be incomplete due to Wooden's good coverage. You can see him accelerate, as soon as he realizes that the ball is caught. Zibby had a great career, and I know that this one play is certainly not indicative of his normal play. But it just goes to show you why the saying "You've got to bring it on every play." is an OLD saying. It's because it's been proven true, over and over again.

True about the play, not about his career.

Zbikowski was a horrible college safety and an above average punt returner. However, we've seen someone go from a terrible safety to a pretty good NFL player (Ndukwe), so he could have success in the pros. His success was inflated because he had a couple of touchdowns in 2005. He did nothing in 2006 and 2007 besides lead the defense.

 

[ACamp1900]

True about the play, not about his career.

Zbikowski was a horrible college safety and an above average punt returner. However, we've seen someone go from a terrible safety to a pretty good NFL player (Ndukwe), so he could have success in the pros. His success was inflated because he had a couple of touchdowns in 2005. He did nothing in 2006 and 2007 besides lead the defense.

I agree Ziby had a great sophmore year( off memory the MSU game stands out to me that year) but his last two years were far from what his hype would lead you to think

 

[Riddickulous]

Funny. This started off as a heated discussion on Weis, then it became a discussion on the epic Bush Push game, and now we're talking about Zibby.

It's a strange world we live in.

 

[ACamp1900]

That was an amazing game...



















the snow bowl that is.

 

[Riddickulous]

The ending was spectacular.

 

[kmoose]

True about the play, not about his career.

Well, he did make honorable mention All American in 2006 and 2007. I didn't mean to insinuate that he was one of the all time greats. I guess what I really meant, was that, while he loafed it a bit on that play, loafing was not typical of his play in his career at ND. He may have been an overachiever, but that was because he gave it his all, on damned near every play.

 

[Riddickulous]

True, true.

 

[stonebreakerwasgod]

ND is going to win at least 9 games next year. If there is anybody saying CW needs to be fired, then they should be very afraid of random drug-testing.

 

[z_iRISH_z]

You fire Weis you lose all the recruiting power he has. We will be back and winning consistently. Give the guy some time.

 

[Riddickulous]

Recruiting means nothing when the talent doesn't play up to its full potential.