Montana to OSU???

[NDinL.A.]

id say if a qb wanted to go to nd it would be the class of '11 because u would think jimmy would stay all 4, then crist, then the young gun would come in. this is all just an assumption. not sayin jake heap couldnt possibly sign and come in and start over crist

Teams that consistently put guys in the pros will consistently get players. Look at USC QB's. They get 5 stars coming in year after year, and they redshirt and sit a couple of years (meaning 3 years!!!) until they play, and recruits still keep going there. Why? Palmer, Leinart, even Booty and Cassell (late round picks), and now Sanchez. Mustain transferred in knowing that Sanchez was their preferred starter.

When CW came in and completely changed Brady Quinn from a potential pro to a first-rounder, the top QB recruit in the nation (Jimmy) came. And believe it or not, the very next year, 5 star Crist came, knowing he'd have to beat out JC to play early. Didn't matter, because he believed that CW trains pro QB's. When JC has a great year this year (and with his cannon plus his WR's, chances are in our favor that he will be great), those QB recruits will notice, and they'll come. Guys like Heaps, who will verbal early, won't get to see it before he verbals, but others will. We'll get our QB in 2010, I have no doubt about that...

 

[fightinirish68]

idk if u have noticed but nd hasnt been puttin too many guys in the pros here lately. we havnt been on the level of usc in a while man. but we are cycling out ty's guys. so i mean im not tryin to bring us down. idk i say a qb this year is tough to bring in

 

[Irishlew]

idk if u have noticed but nd hasnt been puttin too many guys in the pros here lately. we havnt been on the level of usc in a while man. but we are cycling out ty's guys. so i mean im not tryin to bring us down. idk i say a qb this year is tough to bring in

No you're right Notre Dame hasn't put anyone in the pro's the last 10 years.


Abiamiri, Victor (2007 - 2008)
Boiman, Rocky (2002 - 2008)
Carlson, John (2008 - 2008)
Collins, Jerome (2005 - 2007)
Cooper, Deke (2002 - 2007)
Denman, Anthony (2001 - 2002)
Driver, Tony (2001 - 2002)
Earl, Glenn (2004 - 2006)
Faine, Jeff (2003 - 2008)
Farmer, Robert (1999 - 1999)
Fasano, Anthony (2006 - 2008)
Fisher, Tony (2002 - 2006)
Gandy, Mike (2002 - 2008)
Givens, David (2002 - 2006)
Goodspeed, Joey (2002 - 2004)
Goolsby, Mike (2005 - 2005)
Grant, Ryan (2007 - 2008)
Harper, Deveron (2000 - 2004)
Harris, Ryan (2007 - 2008)
Harrison, Tyreo (2002 - 2003)
Holiday, Carlyle (2005 - 2007)
Holloway, Jabari (2002 - 2003)
Howard, Bobbie (2001 - 2003)
Hunter, Javin (2002 - 2002)
Irons, Grant (2002 - 2006)
Israel, Ron (2003 - 2003)
Jackson, Jarious (2000 - 2003)
Johnson, Malcolm (1999 - 2000)
Jones, Julius (2004 - 2008)
Landri, Derek (2007 - 2008)
Laws, Trevor (2008 - 2008)
Legree, Lance (2001 - 2006)
LeVoir, Mark (2007 - 2008)
Lopienski, Tom (2003 - 2004)
Mahan, Sean (2003 - 2008)
Mays, Corey (2006 - 2008)
Mclaughlin, John (1999 - 2000)
Minor, Kory (2000 - 2002)
Molinaro, Jim (2004 - 2006)
Ndukwe, Chinedum (2007 - 2008)
O'leary, Dan (2001 - 2002)
Owens, John (2002 - 2008)
Petitgout, Luke (1999 - 2007)
Quinn, Brady (2007 - 2008)
Rosenthal, Mike (1999 - 2006)
Santucci, Dan (2007 - 2007)
Sapp, Gerome (2003 - 2007)
Smith, Hunter (1999 - 2008)
Stovall, Maurice (2006 - 2008)
Taylor, Jamaar (2004 - 2005)
Tuck, Justin (2005 - 2008)
Vollers, Kurt (2002 - 2005)
Walker, Darius (2007 - 2007)
Walton, Shane (2003 - 2003)
Watson, Courtney (2004 - 2005)
Weaver, Anthony (2002 - 2008)
Williams, Brock (2003 - 2004)
Wisne, Jerry (1999 - 2002)
Zbikowski, Tom (2008 - )

 

[fightinirish68]

i mean when did i say 10 years..u wanna re read my statement then try to make a play on it. since charlies been here would be considered "recent". ull come up with close to 18. i bet usc is close to DOUBLE that number

 

[fightinirish68]

2008 1 7 Sedrick Ellis DT New Orleans Saints
2008 1 9 Keith Rivers OLB Cincinnati Bengals
2008 1 21 Sam Baker T Atlanta Falcons
2008 1 28 Lawrence Jackson DE Seattle Seahawks
2008 2 39 Chilo Rachal G San Francisco 49ers
2008 2 48 Fred Davis TE Washington Redskins
2008 2 63 Terrell Thomas CB New York Giants
2008 5 137 John David Booty QB Minnesota Vikings
2008 5 155 Thomas Williams MLB Jacksonville Jaguars
2008 7 213 Chauncey Washington RB Jacksonville Jaguars
2007 2 45 Dwayne Jarrett WR Carolina Panthers
2007 2 51 Steve Smith WR New York Giants
2007 2 59 Ryan Kalil C Carolina Panthers
2007 5 143 Dallas Sartz LB Washington Redskins
2007 7 211 Oscar Lua LB New England Patriots
2006 1 2 Reggie Bush RB New Orleans Saints
2006 1 10 Matt Leinart QB Arizona Cardinals
2006 2 39 Winston Justice T Philadelphia Eagles
2006 2 41 Deuce Lutui G Arizona Cardinals
2006 2 45 LenDale White RB Tennessee Titans
2006 3 91 Frostee Rucker DE Cincinnati Bengals
2006 3 93 Dominique Byrd TE St. Louis Rams
2006 4 101 Darnell Bing LB Oakland Raiders
2006 5 163 David Kirtman FB Seattle Seahawks
2006 6 204 LaJuan Ramsey DT Philadelphia Eagles
2006 7 217 Fred Matua G Detroit Lions
2005 1 10 Mike Williams WR Detroit Lions
2005 1 31 Mike Patterson DT Philadelphia Eagles
2005 2 37 Shaun Cody DE Detroit Lions
2005 2 45 Lofa Tatupu MLB Seattle Seahawks
2005 7 230 Matt Cassel QB New England Patriots

 

[NDinL.A.]

idk if u have noticed but nd hasnt been puttin too many guys in the pros here lately. we havnt been on the level of usc in a while man. but we are cycling out ty's guys. so i mean im not tryin to bring us down. idk i say a qb this year is tough to bring in

You have to read my post again. I'm ONLY talking about the QB position. QB's saw what happened to Brady, and next year they'll see what's happening to JC. If the QB recruits don't commit early, they'll see that ND is a place where QB's improve and get noticed by pro scouts, and they'll see that ND is a great place to sign in 2010.

In no way am I comparing ND to USC. They are the gold standard unfortunately right now when it comes to both recruiting and getting guys into the pros...

 

[Clausen2Kamara]

Wow thats great. CW has finally got his guys in...Made BQ, Stovall, and JS into potential early round picks....The classes he recruited the last 3 years will be high draft picks barring injury...We will give SC a run for their money this year thanks to CW's committment to recruiting the elite players...I wish more people would be more appreciative...guess they're waiting for the results of next season..

 

[chyrspchuck]

31-18 usc is my count, but i consider that the shark would have been taken in the 1st round, that makes 19....hmmmmm 19 guys in 05, 06, 07, 08......not bad in my book.

Also, I was looking at that list of piece of shit usc scrubs, thinking, Justin Tuck made an impact in a Super Bowl 2008.....USC can't say that. Look at USC list, if I were in the NFL I would only want Reggie, Casel, Tatupu, We have made better Pro's for sure.

I didn't do this, and I'm not sure, but I think you could match up their best pro at each position and we would beat them hands down. I started to think maybe ReggieorLendale, but we have Ryan Grant who has been pretty good......Their receivers have been garbage. QB I guess Cassel, but now he's going to ride the pine, and I think I would rather have Brady. Just a thought.

 

[fightinirish68]

idk man. its a matter of opionion on signing this year if ur a qb. because in a way we have "depth" at qb from the stand point of the outside looking in. if i were heaps id look elsewhere where a qb whos a jr or sr who would be possibly leaving this comin up year, such as oklahoma, where his pocket passin would fit the scheme. and hed have a great team to surround him with one of the top 5 coaches in college football today and a team thats at least a top 10 program year in year out

 

[TDHeysus]

....not sayin jake heap couldnt possibly sign and come in and start over crist

quiet as kept...i think Crist will be better than Clausen (unless weis is fired, than they will both go in the toilet, fast)

But shhhhh, you didnt hear it from me....

 

[fightinirish68]

he looks good on film from hs. but its so hard to tell whos good from cali. theres so many teams that are garbage, and so many teams that are actually good.

he coulda been playin teams that are like the smu mustangs of hs football

 

[Irishlew]

i mean when did i say 10 years..u wanna re read my statement then try to make a play on it. since charlies been here would be considered "recent". ull come up with close to 18. i bet usc is close to DOUBLE that number

i mean then be specific...u wanna re-read your statement and tell me where you said since CW? You said lately, to me the last 10 years is lately.

 

[Irishlew]

he looks good on film from hs. but its so hard to tell whos good from cali. theres so many teams that are garbage, and so many teams that are actually good.

he coulda been playin teams that are like the smu mustangs of hs football

how could you possibly know this from Tennessee?

 

[LOVEMYIRISH]

I would say we have a better shot at Montana and Heaps than my boy LMI seems to think... I say we get one of the two

Well, Montana has told the coaching staff he won't come to ND...not sure why he'd change his mind.

Heaps...well, the coaching staff assumes he's not, so I won't bet against them.

 

[fightinirish68]

i mean bc i know football. u tryin to tell me that every team in california is a top notch team? no. alright then. not every team in a conference or division will be a great program. it just doesnt happen that way. plus when u look at a team goin 42-0 in 4 years. id say theres some obvious mismatches there. with jimmy puttin up his numbers in hs ball and marc tyler puttin up the numbers he did?

when i think lately, i think previous 3-5 years. thats lately. if i wanted almost 10 yrs back ill drop decade.

 

[wakeuptheechoes]

Of course we don't know what is going through his head either. Has he discussed publicly where he wants to go? I want my son to go to ND and play Offensive Tackle he has the size and talent. Currently he is a sophomore 6-2 300lbs. and still growing. But I realize that I will be proud where ever he decides to go. I told him forget about all the ND stuff he has grown up wearing. I want him to go where he will be happy and get a good education.
True, I believe he would get that at ND, but it is his decision. I hope he does go there but he has to go there because he wants to go there. I do not want him to go there for me.
I think Archie Manning took the same approach with his sons.

As a side note I believe his Junior year, Joe started #3 on the depth chart. Dan Devine must have at least at one time thought he had two quarterbacks that were better. Maybe talent wise they were, Dan knew more about football than I do. But playing quarterback is more than just being able to make the throws it is having grit and saavy on the field that makes you a winner. Granted that is not something you can see or measure but is might be more important than arm strentgh or accuracy. Is Nick this way? I don't have a clue. I just want ND to get the best quarterback they can, and the best RB and best DE and best MLB. etc. etc.