Who Shot JFK?

WabashFalcon

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OK, on a serious note...

Wabash, how did your presentation go? I'm not sure I know anyone who truly believes Oswald acted alone. It had to be a conspiracy; to what extent, who knows. It does sound like a lot of people would have benefitted.

My students loved it. I presented the facts... what we know, who was in the car, and so on. I then went about showing the Zapruder film... if you go to TeacherTube - Teach the World | Teacher Videos | Lesson Plan Videos | Student Video Lessons | Online Teacher Made Videos | TeacherTube.com and search "Kennedy Assassination", you can see a frame by frame shot of it. I asked my kids what they saw. They all responded that Kennedy's head went back and left. I then showed them parts of the Warren Report that detailed the fact that Oswald was a TERRIBLE shot in the Marines.

They left class all atwitter (that was for you Bambi) and spred word to the rest of my studnets that class was going to be awesome today. By my final class, I had four teachers, and twenty students I do not even teach cram into my classroom for my PowerPoint and lecture.

Their homework was to go home and ask their parents who killed Kennedy.... I just started a massive cult of "Oswald wasn't alone!!!!" in the halls of my high school. Dear god... I've created a monster....



And I love the fact that I got my kids to think, draw their own conclusions, and learn on the experience so much so that they are taking their own time to research the assassination outside of class. I fucking love teaching.
 

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That's great, Wabash!

History should be taught with as much facts as needed. Not some watered-down, revisionist version.
 

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And I love the fact that I got my kids to think, draw their own conclusions, and learn on the experience so much so that they are taking their own time to research the assassination outside of class. I fucking love teaching.

awesome!
 

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after looking into this more and doing research, i have come to the conclusion the only real possible accomplace to oswald is Neuteddoomer. Think about it. A baby deer, hides well in the grassy knowl, mother was assassainated by a white guy named John, looking for revenge, and dammit hes cute. No one would ever expect it.
 

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One question I would love to find the facts on is how did Oswald defect to Russia, give up Governmnet secrets, have a change of heart and decide to bring back his new Russian bride to the States, all while during the height of the cold war, and not get tried for treason??? Let alone allowed to come back with zero difficulty at all...

Maybe he was a member of the Weather Underground.
 

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after looking into this more and doing research, i have come to the conclusion the only real possible accomplace to oswald is Neuteddoomer. Think about it. A baby deer, hides well in the grassy knowl, mother was assassainated by a white guy named John, looking for revenge, and dammit hes cute. No one would ever expect it.

someone call Oliver Stone, the conspiracy has been exposed!!! I never thought a baby deer could cause so much trouble...
 

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Das right TDHeysus. Yep. I'm Badass, Black Eye Patch wearing Bambi. Shheeeeiiiitt. Wut? And I'm not a baby anymore. I'm not I'm not I'm not.

Great job Wabash.

Not to worry NDinLA. I got it....

NDOM was the umbrella man.

IrishAddiction. Ain't I cute though?

Grrrr!
 
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NeuteredDoomer

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big daddy. It seems the mistress finally dunnit. But it was a conspiracy. She was coached by Jackie.
 
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It is obvious that there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy. I believe the Warren Commision discovered who was behind it. I also believe it was not Johnson. All you need to know that Oswald was a patsy is one fact: There was not a long enough window of opportunity for Oswald to have fired 3 shots. There was 5.6 seconds of opportunity new technology indicates that it would take at the least 8.1 seconds at the least.

Why do I believe this? The Warren Commision itself:
Members
Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the United States; (1948 Republican Nominee
for Vice President.)
Richard Russell, Jr., (D-GA); U.S. Senator;
John Sherman Cooper, (R-KY); U.S. Senator;
Hale Boggs, (D-LA); U.S. Representative;
Gerald R. Ford, (R-MI); U.S. Representative;
Allen W. Dulles, former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency;
(Appointed by President Eisenhower)
John J. McCloy, former President of the World Bank. (long time Rockefellar
associate and friend of Eisenhower)

All but two were Republicans or had Republican ties, the date of the assination was Nov 22, 1963. The Commission's final report was given to Johnson on September 24, 1964. The Presidential Election was 6 weeks later. (*The Cuban Missile Crisis was Oct 18-29, 1962 Keep that date in mind) The report concluded that Oswald acted alone. A commission of 7 people where 5 were basically republicans and they found nothing on Johnson. No insuations nothing, If there was any chance he was involved they would have been all over it. It however was a unanimous agreement.

I have seen just about every history narrative from the History Channel to the CBS documentary in 1967. I have read extensively on the subject.
I think there are many holes in the commission's report. Why were they unanimous? Which leads me to another reason I think Johnson was not behind it. Consider the era, the U.S. population was paranoid about the "Bomb" but they used to run commercials that would show the explosion and tell people "If you see a blinding flash, look for cover, find anything you can" It would actually show people in the park covering up with newspapers. This was bull and we all know that now. But in the 60's the Public was not so well informed. There were people who thought we could survive a nuclear holocaust. But the congress and our leaders knew differently, I am sure much of the ruse was to quell fears.
The USSR and Cuba knew this too, that is why I beleive they created the fall guy, Oswald.

If it had been the Mafia, there would have been some that would have been willing to point the finger and thus help with their political agenda. It may have made them a target, but usually after such noteriety, it is very dangerous to knock off someone and make them a martyr.

So in conclusion, if the Warren Commission had even remotely pointed the finger at Johnson, it might have turned the election. Instead of being a Johnson landslide it might have been a Goldwater landslide. Of course this would not have been unanimous as two democrats would not have concurred. If however, they had concluded that Castro and the Soviet Union had a hand in an elaborate plot, the American people would have demanded retaliation and congress and our leaders would have been a victim of their own propaganda. If we had retaliated against Cuba, it very well could have been escalated to a nuclear war with the USSR. This would have been enough to have the commision file a report in unanimity in the face of an obvious conspiracy, and dismiss facts that are clearly undeniable. If they thought it might cost millions of American lives if the American people knew the truth. The unanimity of the report cannot be discounted. They lied, but why would all of them lie about the same thing.

This is a summary of my personal thoughts, if it seems nutty, so be it. But to me it does seem plausible.
 
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It is obvious that there was a conspiracy to kill Kennedy. I believe the Warren Commision discovered who was behind it. I also believe it was not Johnson. All you need to know that Oswald was a patsy is one fact: There was not a long enough window of opportunity for Oswald to have fired 3 shots. There was 5.6 seconds of opportunity new technology indicates that it would take at the least 8.1 seconds at the least.
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while the warren commision was obviously BS this is not true... many sharp shooters have performed the task in that time over the years... BUT oswald was not close to that caliber so... but the whole there simply was not enough time is an urban legend/myth... there was enough time for the right shooter...

still doesn't change the fact that Oswald didn't pull the trigger imo and that there was a conspiracy
 
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